Greetings,
I was reading the LWN article from today (free to non-subscribers next Thursday). Here's a subscriber link for those who might want to see it now:
CentOS and Red Hat - http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/592723/485ea802859f6c36/
I saw that Xen was mentioned as an area where CentOS went beyond RHEL with CentOS 6... and being that I'm deeply in the OpenVZ community, I thought it might be natural to have an OpenVZ CentOS Variant. I just noticed that the CentOS Virt-SIG page already mentions OpenVZ. Is this only for the upcoming CentOS 7 or would it be possible to produce a spin/remix that is CentOS 6-based that includes the OpenVZ kernel and OpenVZ utils?
Looking at the stats provided by the OpenVZ Project (http://stats.openvz.org/) it is obvious that CentOS is the most popular platform for both OpenVZ hosts and OpenVZ containers:
Top host distros ------------------- CentOS 56,725 Scientific 2,471 RHEL 869 Debian 576 Fedora 111 Ubuntu 82 Gentoo 54 openSUS 18 ALT Linux 10 Sabayon 6
and
Top 10 CT distros ------------------- centos 245,468 debian 106,350 ubuntu 83,197 OR 8,354 gentoo 7,017 pagoda 4,024 scientific 3,604 fedora 3,173 seedunlimited 1,965
This morning I sent out some feelers to the OpenVZ community (via the OpenVZ Users mailing list, blog.openvz.org, and the #openvz IRC channel) to see if any OpenVZ users were already working with the CentOS project (I'm not).
So does anyone that is part of this SIG care to tell me how much OpenVZ interest there currently is and how I might become a part of the effort? I know the virt-sig is probably quite broad beyond OpenVZ.
TYL,
Hi Scott,
we are in the process of bootstrapping the Virtualization SIG and are working with the CentOS community to set it up. The intention is to work with anyone who has an interest to bring a specific virtualization technology to CentOS and who is willing to put enough time in to make their bit work. A lot of details are still open, such as whether there would be one CentOS virt variant covering all virt technologies (which is preferable to having several for a number of reasons), infrastructure questions, versions of packages for qemu, libvirt, ... interfaces to other SIGs and many more.
The next step is to set up the first meeting. We will make a proposal for dates and format shortly. I was out of the office for a while and am only just catching up with things that happened in the last month (such as the approval of the virt SIG).
This morning I sent out some feelers to the OpenVZ community (via the
OpenVZ Users mailing list,
blog.openvz.org, and the #openvz IRC channel) to see if any OpenVZ
users were already working with the CentOS project (I'm not). I am not aware of anyone from the OpenVZ community at this stage.
So does anyone that is part of this SIG care to tell me how much
OpenVZ interest there currently is To be honest, I don't have a clue. The steps you have already taken should certainly give you an indication on how much interest there may be from the OpenVZ community. And possibly someone on this list may respond.
and how I might become a part of the effort? I know the virt-sig is
probably quite broad beyond OpenVZ. A good place to start would be to participate in our first meeting and on the list and take things from there. As an aside, I only just got write access to the wiki and we will be updating some of the information related the SIG (which is currently out-of-date).
Best Regards Lars
On 03/04/2014 17:55, Scott Dowdle wrote:
Greetings,
I was reading the LWN article from today (free to non-subscribers next Thursday). Here's a subscriber link for those who might want to see it now:
CentOS and Red Hat - http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/592723/485ea802859f6c36/
I saw that Xen was mentioned as an area where CentOS went beyond RHEL with CentOS 6... and being that I'm deeply in the OpenVZ community, I thought it might be natural to have an OpenVZ CentOS Variant. I just noticed that the CentOS Virt-SIG page already mentions OpenVZ. Is this only for the upcoming CentOS 7 or would it be possible to produce a spin/remix that is CentOS 6-based that includes the OpenVZ kernel and OpenVZ utils?
Looking at the stats provided by the OpenVZ Project (http://stats.openvz.org/) it is obvious that CentOS is the most popular platform for both OpenVZ hosts and OpenVZ containers:
Top host distros
CentOS 56,725 Scientific 2,471 RHEL 869 Debian 576 Fedora 111 Ubuntu 82 Gentoo 54 openSUS 18 ALT Linux 10 Sabayon 6
and
Top 10 CT distros
centos 245,468 debian 106,350 ubuntu 83,197 OR 8,354 gentoo 7,017 pagoda 4,024 scientific 3,604 fedora 3,173 seedunlimited 1,965
This morning I sent out some feelers to the OpenVZ community (via the OpenVZ Users mailing list, blog.openvz.org, and the #openvz IRC channel) to see if any OpenVZ users were already working with the CentOS project (I'm not).
So does anyone that is part of this SIG care to tell me how much OpenVZ interest there currently is and how I might become a part of the effort? I know the virt-sig is probably quite broad beyond OpenVZ.
TYL,
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Lars Kurth lars.kurth@xen.org wrote:
Hi Scott,
we are in the process of bootstrapping the Virtualization SIG and are working with the CentOS community to set it up. The intention is to work with anyone who has an interest to bring a specific virtualization technology to CentOS and who is willing to put enough time in to make their bit work. A lot of details are still open, such as whether there would be one CentOS virt variant covering all virt technologies (which is preferable to having several for a number of reasons), infrastructure questions, versions of packages for qemu, libvirt, ... interfaces to other SIGs and many more.
The next step is to set up the first meeting. We will make a proposal for dates and format shortly. I was out of the office for a while and am only just catching up with things that happened in the last month (such as the approval of the virt SIG).
This morning I sent out some feelers to the OpenVZ community (via the
OpenVZ Users mailing list,
blog.openvz.org, and the #openvz IRC channel) to see if any OpenVZ
users were already working with the CentOS project (I'm not). I am not aware of anyone from the OpenVZ community at this stage.
So does anyone that is part of this SIG care to tell me how much
OpenVZ interest there currently is To be honest, I don't have a clue. The steps you have already taken should certainly give you an indication on how much interest there may be from the OpenVZ community. And possibly someone on this list may respond.
I think he may have meant, how much interest the Virt SIG has in recieving contributions from the OpenVZ community; and I think the answer to that is, very much. :-)
Lars and I both work with the Xen Project, and so obviously have much more experience with Xen than OpenVZ; and most of my own engineering time will go towards Xen. But we (and the CentOS board) are committed to running it as an inclusive project.
-George
On 07/04/2014 15:19, George Dunlap wrote:
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Lars Kurth lars.kurth@xen.org wrote:
So does anyone that is part of this SIG care to tell me how much
OpenVZ interest there currently is To be honest, I don't have a clue. The steps you have already taken should certainly give you an indication on how much interest there may be from the OpenVZ community. And possibly someone on this list may respond.
I think he may have meant, how much interest the Virt SIG has in recieving contributions from the OpenVZ community; and I think the answer to that is, very much. :-)
Apologies, I misinterpreted Scott's statement. I agree with George. Lars
Hi,
Le 03/04/2014 18:55, Scott Dowdle a écrit :
Looking at the stats provided by the OpenVZ Project (http://stats.openvz.org/) it is obvious that CentOS is the most popular platform for both OpenVZ hosts and OpenVZ containers:
Top host distros
CentOS 56,725 Scientific 2,471 RHEL 869 Debian 576 Fedora 111 Ubuntu 82 Gentoo 54 openSUS 18 ALT Linux 10 Sabayon 6
I think these stats are more or less correct. They are based on the downloads on openvz site only. For example, I don't see the Proxmox distribution, based on debian, which offers KVM and openvz as virtualization solutions, and at the very least is installed on thousands of hosts.
Proxmox uses the openvz kernel, which is based on the RHEL kernel, that is 2.6.32.
I use Proxmox at work, but I am using using only KVM VMs. I would like to see something like proxmox (bare metal installation, web management...), but developped in Python, and based on CentoS...
Alain