devel May 2009

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LiveCD development
by Dag Wieers 06 May '09

06 May '09

Hi, I am amazed by the usefulness of the CentOS LiveCD and I would like to discuss the scope of the project. Some of the recommendations I made go against the original idea of LiveCD project. But my (outside) stance on the LiveCD is that it should give the best achievable experience possible for people when trying CentOS. To me that includes adding drivers that are available in other repositories (which are missing from upstream, including wireless firmware, etc...) I do agree that as soon as we leave the deliver-what-upstream-has path, we may open a can of worms (do we also want to fix known bugs ? replace upstream software ? legality ?), so we have to decide what is desirable, what is possible and where the project's effort ends. What are the various goals of the LiveCD project ? - A way for people to see what hardware is supported by CentOS - with drivers included by upstream only - with drivers that can be added with little effort (to eg. accomodate eeepc and other purposes) - including a tool to send a hardware status report to a central database - A tool for recovering a broken system - include only a few basic tools for debugging - A tool for installing CentOS on a system - A workable environment for people to use day by day - do we want persistent storage - does it need to be installable from Windows - does it include wireless firmware - Provide the tools for people to make their own spins - all sorts of appliances, eg. DVR, rescue, ... I am sure we can list more applicable use-cases for this project. And in the end we have to agree which fit the LiveCD project (eg. whether we make an official CentOS LiveCD and a seperate CentOS-plus LiveCD) and what the main priorities are. Also, to stimulate the LiveCD development there should be no reason why we couldn't release a LiveCD 5.3.1 or LiveCD 5.3.2 if there are compelling reasons to make a new respin (and update the mirrors). In the end I see a bright future for the LiveCD as the project where driver-development (dasha, elrepo), CentOS-based appliances, hardware testing, and much more come together. To me it is one of those unique opportunities to drive different other projects with a very positive attitude as it brings (even more) meaning to CentOS to a lot of (new) people. Where do we want to go with this and what is realistically achievable ? I am thrilled to find out :) -- -- dag wieers, dag(a)wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors]

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combined x86_64 and i386 install media
by Karanbir Singh 06 May '09

06 May '09

Would anyone like to take up the task of building a combined i386/x86_64 install DVD image ? It *should* be possible, just waiting on someone to try -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219@icq

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Re: [CentOS-devel] [CentOS-docs] Portal for br.centos.org or pt_br.centos.org
by Thiago Avelino 06 May '09

06 May '09

Yes, all from this list pt_br know this in my publication list of hundreds devel. 2009/5/6 Ralph Angenendt <ra+centos(a)br-online.de>: > Thiago Avelino wrote: >> Ralph: Not understand what you mean! > > a) Please don't top post. > > b) No offense meant, but your last mails all loked like you are the sole > proprietor of everything "CentOS Brazil". There already is a vivid(?) > community around the CentOS-br mailing list - that's why I asked if > there has been communication with that mailing list. > > Cheers, > > Ralph > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS-devel mailing list > CentOS-devel(a)centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel > > -- Thiago Avelino | www.avelino.us icq: 2522219 - jabber: thiagoavelinoster(a)gmail.com

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Testing repo's in transition
by Karanbir Singh 06 May '09

06 May '09

the c3/c4/c5-testing repos are going to a bit fluid ( ie, might randomly break with invalid metadata and other wierd stuff like that ) for the next few hours as Ralph and I work to get a newer-better-shinnier build process going. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219@icq

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FYI: centos reproduceability
by Farkas Levente 01 May '09

01 May '09

hi, as it was told that centos can be reproduced and all rpm build in mock i just made a quick test and try to rebuild all centos-5.3 srpms. the result not too bad but far from perfect. the setup was a fresh i386 centos-5.3 minimal install + yum update + install mock-0.6.13-1.el5_2.3 (the result was almost the same even worse with 2 srpms with mock-0.9.14-1.el5). from 1186 srpms - 1145 build ~96.5% - 41 failed ~ 3.5% for me it seems to me the failed rpms have the same version as in 5.2 and they was simple copied to 5.3 and was not rebuild for/with 5.3. the failures have different reasons, just to mention a few: - aspell-xx use different filename encoding and with the default en_US.UTF-8 setting it can't find it's files (so those two patches are strange for me in src.rpm) may be upstream bug. - axis buildreq install java-1.6.0 (which is in 5.3 but was not in 5.2) in stead of using gcc's java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-devel. it can be rpm or yum bug, but can't be rebuild in mock but can be build by hand. - mysql test suit is failed with: Errors are (from /builddir/build/BUILD/mysql-5.0.45/mysql-test/var/log/mysqltest-time) : mysqltest: Could not open connection 'default': 2026 SSL connection error the packages which failed to build: aspell-es-0.50-13.2.2.src.rpm aspell-no-0.50.1-9.2.2.src.rpm aspell-pt-0.50-10.2.2.src.rpm axis-1.2.1-2jpp.6.src.rpm castor-0.9.5-1jpp.7.src.rpm cmirror-kmod-0.1.21-10.el5.src.rpm cyrus-imapd-2.3.7-2.el5.src.rpm dbus-python-0.70-7.el5.src.rpm geronimo-specs-1.0-0.M2.2jpp.12.el5.centos.src.rpm gfs-kmod-0.1.31-3.el5.src.rpm gjdoc-0.7.7-12.el5.src.rpm gnbd-kmod-0.1.5-2.el5.centos.src.rpm gnome-media-2.16.1-3.el5.src.rpm gnome-pilot-2.0.13-16.src.rpm gpm-1.20.1-74.1.src.rpm ifd-egate-0.05-15.src.rpm junit-3.8.2-3jpp.1.src.rpm kdebase-3.5.4-19.el5.centos.1.src.rpm kdebindings-3.5.4-6.el5.src.rpm libgssapi-0.10-2.src.rpm libwvstreams-4.2.2-2.1.src.rpm lsof-4.78-3.src.rpm mikmod-3.1.6-38.1.src.rpm mvapich-1.1.0-0.2931.3.el5.src.rpm mysql-5.0.45-7.el5.src.rpm nautilus-open-terminal-0.6-6.el5.src.rpm net-snmp-5.3.2.2-5.el5.src.rpm nfs-utils-lib-1.0.8-7.2.z2.src.rpm notification-daemon-0.3.5-9.el5.src.rpm openhpi-2.10.2-1.el5.src.rpm perl-XML-Simple-2.14-4.fc6.src.rpm php-pear-1.4.9-4.el5.1.src.rpm postgresql-jdbc-8.1.407-1jpp.4.src.rpm python-docs-2.4.3-1.1.src.rpm sblim-1-31.el5_2.1.src.rpm stardict-2.4.5-5.src.rpm struts-1.2.9-4jpp.5.src.rpm tetex-3.0-33.2.el5_1.2.src.rpm totem-2.16.7-4.el5.src.rpm velocity-1.4-6jpp.1.src.rpm xdoclet-1.2.3-7jpp.2.src.rpm -- Levente "Si vis pacem para bellum!"

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