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CentOS 5 PowerPC port?
by Greg Snyder 26 May '10

26 May '10

Hi all, I'm trying to get a CentOS 5 port started for PowerPC. I saw there was some email back in February about this, but did not know what progress had been made. Does anyone have any news? I'm most interested in 32-bit, with the hope of eventually running it on some Apple (G4 and G5) desktops, as well as on some embedded PowerPC boards (mostly amcc 460ex based). So I'd be hoping to build with some pretty generic target options so the RPMs would be useful in the most places. Are there tools, scripts or techniques used to do the x86 RPMs build that could be leveraged? I looked around on the CentOS website and wiki, but could not find docs or sources for this. Any pointers on this, or just generally how the x86 build/build server is bootstrapped, and the x86 RPMs are produced, would be greatly appreciated. Given my previous somewhat painful experience with autoconf-related cross-build issues, my first thought was to build the bulk of the RPMs natively on PowerPC, rather than x86 to PowerPC cross-build. I have a few PowerPC boxes (currently running Fedora 12), including a quad core 2.5GHz G5, that I'd be happy to share with others interested in getting a CentOS PowerPC port done. I'd be grateful for any tips, help or direction. Thanks, Greg

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builder running notification code fragment
by R P Herrold 26 May '10

26 May '10

Let me surface a conversation happening elsewhere here, for people interested in building a distibution I've mentioned my toy s390x builder privately to a few people, and have some external private testers; additionally I think I mentioned it on the Marist Linux/IBM list and perhaps here publicly. Someone noticed because I picked up a 'follower' on my twitter progress tool On Wed, 26 May 2010, R P Herrold wrote: > On Wed, 26 May 2010, xxx wrote: > >> On 05/26/2010 03:53 PM, R P Herrold wrote: >>> As to other builders, indeed, I got an email that an >>> unknown person's west coast build bot just started >>> following my toy build builder [for s390x] bot >>> http://twitter.com/buildmonbot >>> http://twitter.com/mrgbuildstatus >> damn, now I *gota* get me one of those! >> >> Sounds like a project for the evening! > more like 5 minutes to get started ... > > I've been tinkering with the 'self-hosting' convergence > progress indicator -- just added a feature for the next > restart of it > > [herrold@ibm bin]$ grep tty *sh > remote-build-try.sh: [ "x${NOTWEET}" != "xy" ] && > echo "disk use at ${DISK} ... bailing" | ttytter -script > remote-build-try.sh: ttytter -script > remote-build-try.sh:[ "x${NOTWEET}" != "xy" ] && echo "new > pass: $LNS candidates " | ttytter -script > remote-build-try.sh: [ "x${NOTWEET}" != "xy" ] && > echo "built $BASN (${COUNTER} of ${LNS}) " | ttytter -script > > ==================== > > [herrold@ibm bin]$ head /usr/local/bin/ttytter > #!/usr/bin/perl -s > ######################################################################### > # > # TTYtter v1.0 (c)2007-2010 cameron kaiser (and contributors). > # all rights reserved. > # http://www.floodgap.com/software/ttytter/ > # > # distributed under the floodgap free software license > # http://www.floodgap.com/software/ffsl/ > # -- Russ herrold

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Re: [CentOS-devel] Interested in IA64 build
by James A. Peltier 22 May '10

22 May '10

----- "Karanbir Singh" <mail-lists(a)karan.org> wrote: <snip> | yes, I dont think we will have nearly as much traffic on these arch's | to | merit putting them on the main mirror system. I'd be willing to host the side arches as a mirror. I'm already hosting Ubuntu, a soon to be full CentOS mirror and a soon to be Fedora Enchilada mirror | > Probably the CentOS infrastructure team need to discuss this | > as to where reference 'side architecture' CentOS builds will | > 'live', outside the general mirroring | | good point, I've added it to the list of things. | | > Once I have a bootstrap into CentOS 5, and then 6 as time | > indicates, it may well be possible to 'wire' a ground up | > rebuild on the current CentOS builder and testing process, and | > any future builds into that current process | | Sounds good! There is some work that Ray has been doing as well, and I | | think we should have install media for centos-5 out from there in the | | next few days. Let me collect packages and put them on dev.c.o. But | you | raise an interesting point w.r.t 5 and 6 - at this stage, is it worth | | considering 6 to be a more productive target than 5 for arch's that | will | be supported through to 6 ( ie, not ia64 ) ? You are correct. IMHO perhaps we should target the upcoming 6 packages. When 6 is released we plan to go to it ASAP. I'm already certifying the RHEL 6 platform for our environment using the RHEL 6 Beta software. | > The unit also 'tweets' its progress at | > http://twitter.com/buildmonbot | | nice! Very cool indeed. :) -- James A. Peltier Systems Analyst (FASNet), VIVARIUM Technical Director Simon Fraser University - Burnaby Campus Phone : 778-782-6573 Fax : 778-782-3045 E-Mail : jpeltier(a)sfu.ca Website : http://www.fas.sfu.ca | http://vivarium.cs.sfu.ca MSN : subatomic_spam(a)hotmail.com Does your OS has a man 8 lart? http://www.xinu.nl/unix/humour/asr-manpages/lart.html

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anybody seen ggc compat issues after yum upgrade to 5.5? M_widen_init()?
by Shlomi Hazan 20 May '10

20 May '10

Hi, Sorry is not the place for the question, but I thought you guys should know: I have a 2 new link error after upgrading compiling an application that was not changed: undefined reference to `std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& std::__ostream_insert<char, std::char_traits<char> >(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, char const*, int)(a)GLIBCXX_3.4.9' undefined reference to `std::ctype<char>::_M_widen_init() const(a)GLIBCXX_3.4.11' <const(a)GLIBCXX_3.4.11%27> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status bummer anyone?

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Why are Spacewalk packages removed from CentOS?
by Luc de Louw 18 May '10

18 May '10

Dear all, After filing a bug (http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=4315) Karan made me aware of a discussion held in January 2010. There was no conclusion, no decision. The origin was from Miroslav he was requesting to include rhnlib and friends as I made is on the bug report, and I totally agree with him. Let me pick up the pros and cons discussed in January: Quoting Miroslav @ http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2010-January/005319.html <quote> Partialy true. Recent upstream version will not hit accidentaly rhn.redhat.com That version included in RHEL will do that by default. But these change: https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/changeset/cd925d940357d145c7106c1c3ed6ed… is only one which are required to prevent from accidental check of rhn.redhat.com So my recomendation is: take this patch and apply it on current rhel5 package and include all of them in CentOS. </quote> As I stated, I agree with Miroslav, the only thing we need to care is not to bother people with "click-trough-installations" with "install-numbers" and stuff (This is in anaconda, right?) Lets have a look at http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2010-January/005321.html Quoting Marcus: <quote> Spacewalk development is much faster which may lead into missing features as they are not yet implemented in the version that is meant to be used with rhn. </quote> From my point of view this does not matter that much.I was able to register a RHEL 5.4 to a spacewalk server (0.8? Dont remember, it was just for the sake, not for production). Since spacewalk is the upstream of the RHN satellite, Red Hat will be careful to break API compatibility between rhn-client and RHN Satellite/Spacewalk. Recently I replaced a RHN Sat 5.0 with 5.3. (AFAIR the base of 5.3 was spacewalk 0.5). The only thing that changed from the client side was the activation key. There also have been a change for RHEL5.5 and sat 5.3 (too lazy to search for the errata). The yum errata was published weeks before RHEL5.5 hits the street. @Miroslav and the other RHN Sat/Spacewalk developers: Can you promise to announce incompatible changes early enough? If yes, CentOS can include the stuff immediately. Quoting Karan @ http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2010-January/005361.html <quote> A very large number of pople who use centos, do so with little or no previous understand of linux or even the basics of systems management - we need to keep those people in mind as well. The problem that we have had, in the past, is that installing yum-rhn-plugin brought in loads of rhn\* packages as well, which in turn would cause traffic to rhn.r.c. Also, given that rhn itself is a rhel connected service, the view we took was that there is no need for that functionality in the distro at all. </quote> This is partially true. Another fact about CentOS is IMHO, that a lot of people and companies are using CentOS as a testbed for RHEL. I guess that even more users of spacewalk are using it a a replacement for a RHN sat, since RH does only provide 30 days test licences for RHN sat. Companies have (more or less) large test-environments with CentOS. For those companies it would be a great benefit to have those packages in stock CentOS. Benefits for my self: My daily work is with RHEL and RHN Satellite. In meanwhile I have quite a good to excellent knowledge of RHN sat and its future (I'm a git reader). This is mainly due to the existence of spacewalk. At the moment implementing a complete testbed consisting of CentOS AND spacewalk means quite a lot of work, due to to missing rhnlibs and friends in CentOS. Conclusion: With a very small patch as Miroslav suggested to avoid bothering rhn.redhat.com we can have a OS with is attracting to more people. If I can help maintaining the stuff, let me know, I'll do my best.... Thanks, Luc

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two kickstarts I use around here
by Manuel Wolfshant 10 May '10

10 May '10

hello As asked by Karanbir, please find attached two kickstart files that I use. One is used for servers and does an [almost] minimal install (with support for ssh -Y); the other one is almost 100% the actual ks that I use for the workstations (it adds some 3rd party software, beyond what Centos provides). For 32bit flavor, only the link to the local mrepo must be modified manuel # System keyboard keyboard us # System language lang en_US.UTF-8 # Root password rootpw --iscrypted $1$.A66cJ18$2YhwhpQs.fRNno/PAzqc7/ firewall --disabled firstboot --disable authconfig --enableshadow --enablemd5 # SELinux configuration selinux --disabled # Install OS instead of upgrade install # Use network installation url --url http://internal/mrepo/centos5-x86_64/disc1 # Use network installation network --device eth0 --bootproto dhcp # System timezone timezone --utc Europe/Bucharest # X Window System configuration information xconfig --defaultdesktop=KDE --depth=24 --resolution=1280x1024 --startxonboot # System bootloader configuration bootloader --location=mbr --driveorder=sda # The following is the partition information you requested # Note that any partitions you deleted are not expressed # here so unless you clear all partitions first, this is # not guaranteed to work clearpart --all --initlabel part /boot --fstype ext3 --size=100 part pv.6 --size=0 --grow volgroup VolGroup00 --pesize=32768 pv.6 logvol / --fstype ext3 --name=LogVol00 --vgname=VolGroup00 --size=1024 --grow logvol swap --fstype swap --name=LogVol01 --vgname=VolGroup00 --size=880 --grow --maxsize=1760 repo --name=updates --baseurl=http://internal.nobugconsulting.ro/mrepo/centos5-x86_64/RPMS.updates/ reboot %packages @core @ admin-tools @ editors @ base-x @ printing @ kde-desktop @ sound-and-video @ development-tools @ graphical-internet kernel-devel -bluez-utils -cdrecord -cdparanoia kernel -mkisofs -dvd+rw-tools -kdeaddons -evolution-webcal -evolution -pidgin -ppp -pcsc-lite -pam_ccreds -pam_krb5 -pam_passwdqc -pam_pkcs11 -pam_smb -Deployment_Guide-en-US -firstboot -gcc-gfortran -ypbind -yp-tools -coolkey -ccid -ifd-egate -pcsc-lite evolution kdesdk xchat firefox thunderbird compat-libstdc++-33 libXp libXaw libXmu mc -crash -system-config-rootpassword -NetworkManager %post echo 'NFS mount' mkdir -p /mnt/{cdrom,floppy} /etc/init.d/portmap start /etc/init.d/nfslock start mount 192.168.50.40:/arhive/linux /mnt/cdrom -o soft,timeo=40 echo 'copying .ssh' mkdir -p /root/.ssh cp /mnt/cdrom/ks-stuff/authorized_keys /root/.ssh echo "This is a proprietary computer system. This system is for the use of authorized users only. Individuals using this computer system without authority, or beyond the limits of their authority or for inappropriate or unlawful purposes are subject to having all of their activities on this system monitored and recorded. In the course of monitoring individuals improperly using this system, or in the course of system maintenance, the activities of authorized users may also be monitored. Anyone using this system expressly consents to such monitoring. If monitoring reveals unauthorized, inappropriate or possible unlawful activity, system personnel will provide information derived from such monitoring to NoBug management or outside legal authorities, as appropriate. Misuse of this system may result in disciplinary action, including termination. NoBug Consulting" > /etc/motd sed -ie "s/PASS_MAX_DAYS 99999/PASS_MAX_DAYS 90/;s/PASS_WARN_AGE 7/PASS_WARN_AGE 14/" /etc/login.defs echo "NOZEROCONF=yes" >> /etc/sysconfig/network sed -i "/HOSTNAME/d" /etc/sysconfig/network sed -i -e "s/NETWORKING_IPV6=yes/NETWORKING_IPV6=no/" /etc/sysconfig/network echo 'copying yum.conf' cp /mnt/cdrom/distributions/centos/5/CentOS-Base.repo /mnt/cdrom/distributions/centos/5/nobug.repo /etc/yum.repos.d echo "installing 3rd party repositories" rpm -i /mnt/cdrom/adobe/adobe-repo.rpm /mnt/cdrom/distributions/centos/5/rpmforge-release-*.el5.rf.x86_64.rpm /mnt/cdrom/distributions/centos/5/epel-release-5-3.noarch.rpm #echo 'yum update' #yum -y update /bin/mkdir /apps ln -s /apps/vera.sh /etc/profile.d ln -s /apps/vcs.sh /etc/profile.d ln -s /apps/specman.sh /etc/profile.d ln -s /apps/ncsim.sh /etc/profile.d ln -s /apps/questasim.sh /etc/profile.d echo "apps:/apps /apps nfs defaults,ro,users,exec,noauto 0 0" >> /etc/fstab cp -f /mnt/cdrom/distributions/centos/5/rpmforge.repo /etc/yum.repos.d echo "installing java and adobe" yum -y install java-1.5.0-sun.i586 java-1.5.0-sun-fonts.i586 java-1.5.0-sun-plugin.i586 nedit --enablerepo=nobugcustom flash-plugin AdobeReader_enu openoffice\* #yum -y install libXp.i386 ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.15/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ yum -y install pidgin --enablerepo=nobugcustom --disablerepo=updates #pac pac umount /mnt/cdrom %end install text reboot url --url http://internal/mrepo/centos5-x86_64/disc1 lang en_US.UTF-8 keyboard us skipx network --device eth0 --bootproto dhcp rootpw --iscrypted $1$.A66cJ18$2YhwhpQs.fRNno/PAzqc7/ firewall --disabled selinux --permissive authconfig --enableshadow --enablemd5 timezone Europe/Bucharest bootloader --location=mbr # The following is the partition information you requested # Note that any partitions you deleted are not expressed # here so unless you clear all partitions first, this is # not guaranteed to work clearpart --all --initlabel part /boot --fstype ext3 --size=250 part pv.2 --size=0 --grow volgroup VolGroup00 --pesize=32768 pv.2 logvol / --fstype ext3 --name=LogVol00 --vgname=VolGroup00 --size=1024 --grow logvol swap --fstype swap --name=LogVol01 --vgname=VolGroup00 --size=256 --grow --maxsize=512 repo --name=updates --baseurl=http://internal.nobugconsulting.ro/mrepo/centos5-x86_64/RPMS.updates/ %packages --nobase --excludedocs coreutils yum rpm e2fsprogs lvm2 grub sysstat ntp openssh-server openssh-clients xorg-x11-xauth -dhcpv6-client -iptables-ipv6 -system-config-securitylevel-tui -wireless-tools -rhpl %post

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Talk about existing forums
by Karanbir Singh 07 May '10

07 May '10

hi guys, One of the things that came up from the last chat about the language specific websites, was that there was no one on that call who actually used the forums. With the help of Akemi, I've been able to setup a meeting for the existing english forum moderators to come together and have a chat about: 1) what we have right now 2) Whats broken 3) whats really good 4) where they would like the forums to be in the next 6 months 5) Where they would like the forums to be in the next 12 months 6) The idea of 'English' as being just another language Its a bit short notice, but the meeting is setup to happen on Wednesday 9th Dec at 2300 UTC. Its the only time that worked for all concerned - in the next few weeks period. Apart from the existing forum moderators, anyone interested in the conversation is more than welcome to come along. Lets all sync up at 22:50 on #centos-devel(a)irc.freenode.net and take it from there. Also, lets try and timebox initial discussion to 40 min with a further 10 min after that to summarise and plan future actions. - KB

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5.5 x86_64 dvd needing to be slpit
by Joseph L. Casale 05 May '10

05 May '10

Regarding the recent forum post of the dvd not fitting 4.7gigs, is it possible to combine or are there changes to anaconda that will not permit this easily? jlc

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dev.centos.org downtime
by Ralph Angenendt 03 May '10

03 May '10

Hi, dev.centos.org will have a short downtime tonight at 22:00 UTC. Cheers, Ralph

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