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anaconda dependency calculation?
by Nicholas Byrne 04 Aug '25

04 Aug '25

Hi all, I'm trying to find a tool that calculates all dependencies for a specific package or group of packages for use with CentOS 5 (beta) with the intention of putting together a custom single CD build of CentOS 5. With CentOS 4 i used a python script that used the hdrlist module to find all dependencies which borrowed code from a number of sources. I've looked at yumdownloader and how it checks dependencies (using the --resolve option) but if i pass it the list of packages defined in say the Base and the Core yum groups which generally form an absolute minimal install i end up with about 200 packages. If i do a custom install (using beta 1 disks) and deselect everything i end up with over 300 packages. So i'm guessing anaconda calculates dependencies in a slightly different way, can anyone point me to files/code where i should be looking to find out? Thanks very much in advance for help Nick This e-mail is the property of Quadriga Worldwide Ltd, intended for the addressee only and confidential. Any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message or any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from Quadriga may be monitored. Quadriga cannot guarantee any message delivery method is secure or error-free. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. We do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions in this message and/or attachment that arise as a result of transmission. You should carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Quadriga.

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forums + portal for {lang}.centos.org sites
by Karanbir Singh 17 Aug '24

17 Aug '24

Hi, Earlier in the evening today Ralph, Fabian and I had a chat about the present state of the language subsites. This email sort of summarises the main issue ( s/w ). We seem to have run into a slight technical hitch with punbb/fluxbb. They dont support LDAP as a backend. And we had decided a few months back that all new rollouts must have ldap backend so we can rollin CentOS-DS / openldap based backend. So we need to look at alternatives, and since the primary focus of these international sites is going be forums : Here is a shortlist ( if there is anything else that people are aware of, please add to this list ) - phpBB - SMF - Fudforum - phorum - fluxbb Requirements: - Must be able to scale ( couple of hundred thousand msgs ) - Must be able to handle ldap auth ( if it cant, whats involved in writing the ldap-auth portion ) - Must address the specific requirements raised by the present www.centos.org forum users ( Can you please fill this section in ? ) - Must support all languages we need ( pure utf8 support would be good ) - Secure - Skin'able Nice to have: - Capable of running multiple instances from a single deployment - responsive community :D Things we will need to do: - Decide on what s/w to use. - Give the ArtWork people enough time to get the look & feel sorted. - Migrate newbb forums from www.centos.org to $system ( hey, english is a language too :D ). - Migrate fr.centos.org into the final s/w - setup {de/es/ja/it/pt_br}.centos.org Actions: Ralph and Fabian are going to work on setting up a test ldap server, once that is online we will then start by installing into our test-vm-farm the various s/w to eval them. If anyone would like to help, please feel free to jump right in. I'll setup a wiki page for this issue, which might be a good place to track progress. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219@icq

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Interested in IA64 build.
by James A. Peltier 23 Jan '13

23 Jan '13

I noticed on the SIG that people interested in other ports of interest. I'd like to express interest in the IA64 port. What is the best way to get started? I have two SGI Itanium 2 based machines. One 64 processor x 64GB SGI Altix and a 32 processor x 32GB RAM SGI Prism. They are currently running CentOS 4.8 and I would love to be able to run CentOS 5.5 on them to get them into compliance with the rest of the cluster. -- James A. Peltier Systems Analyst (FASNet), VIVARIUM Technical Director Simon Fraser University - Burnaby Campus Phone : 778-782-6573 Fax : 778-782-3045 E-Mail : jpeltier(a)sfu.ca Website : http://www.fas.sfu.ca | http://vivarium.cs.sfu.ca MSN : subatomic_spam(a)hotmail.com Does your OS has a man 8 lart? http://www.xinu.nl/unix/humour/asr-manpages/lart.html

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Fasttrack for C-5
by Alan Bartlett 03 Dec '10

03 Dec '10

Karanbir, Is there an ETA for this repository yet? A status update would be appreciated, please. Regards, Alan.

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Why there are still xfsprogs-2.9.4 in centos 5?
by Kirby Zhou 30 Jun '10

30 Jun '10

Why there are still xfsprogs-2.9.4 in centos 5? Redhat has already updated it to 2.10.2 for at least half a year. (https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rhel-xfs-errata.html) Regards, Kirby Zhou from SOHU-RD +86-10-6272-8261

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Fwd: rpm.groups - Libraries/Ruby
by Jeff Johnson 24 Jun '10

24 Jun '10

FYI (from a RPMTAG_GROUP discussion on the PLD devel mailing list). You should recognize the URI's in the message, they were all snipped frpm the thread here on centos-devel. The comments are purely mine, and intended as analysis, no intent whatsoever to offend anyone. The engineering problem of enabling luser choice is in fact very hard to solve when based on contributed FL/OSS efforts. 73 de Jeff Begin forwarded message: > From: Jeff Johnson <n3npq(a)mac.com> > Date: June 24, 2010 11:43:11 AM EDT > To: "PLD: Developers list (English)" <pld-devel-en(a)lists.pld-linux.org> > Subject: Re: rpm.groups - Libraries/Ruby > > > On Jun 24, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Bartosz Taudul wrote: > >>>> New group hierarchy proposition can be found at >>>> http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/PLD-doc/nowe-grupy?rev=HEAD. >>> This tree is as good as any other I've seen, certainly far far >>> better than synaptic/aptitude choices. >> It was based on sourceforge trove software map. >> >>> Have you considered: >>> >>> Setting up a process to map specific packages into your taxonomy >>> >>> Something like a de.licio.us tagging framework to do the mapping >>> subjectively with "community" (whatever that means) involvement >>> would be one relatively painless process. >> Translation: noone would do it. Not worth the effort. > > If you're saying > Noone has time for bookmarking at http://de.licio.us any more. > I absolutely agree. > > (aside) > In fact bookmarking (and Google keyword searches) > Just Don't Work Well, but that's a whole different and quite complex > discussion. I kinda like de.licio.us because I can track through > a bookmark tag to see what _ELSE_ a person interested enough > to add a de.licio.us bookmark that blipped my radar might > be interested in. I can't do that with Google keyword searches. > > But de.licio.us (and more generally Ajax) are a pathway to automated collection > of "voting" metrics for "attributes" attached to "packages" indepnedently > (and persistently) after a package has been built. The ultimate > design flaw with RPMTAG_GROUP (and other tags in RPM metadata) is > that static content delivery isn't very useful in 2010, the > "process" to embed tags in packaging reliably is just too cumbersome these days. > > The code for de.licio.us (and Ajax and REST-ful in general) is > there for the stealing is all I meant to point out. > > But go look at any site that is advertising RPM "packages". Here's > are several URL's (from a thread on centos-devel mailing list) I had to visit > this week: > > http://packages.debian.org/lenny/php5 > http://www.freshports.org/ > > All of those "package" presentations are ugly, useless, uninformative > and otherwise as pointless as RPMTAG_GROUP is in RPM installers. > > This URL I particularly have issue with (not with the site per se) > http://pkg.org.ua/ > Note the organization using "vendor" as a toplevel "attribute" for "package" > choosing. > > If "vendor" is the only "attribute" that is presented to lusers, well, > FL/OSS software is just doomed. > > And it wouldn't be that hard to change the "package" presentation using, say, a > more reasonable and intelligent hierarchical tree like what you pointed me to. > > hth > > 73 de Jeff

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'yum-security' plugin and fasttrack respository for CentOS 5.4
by Alan Bartlett 24 Jun '10

24 Jun '10

Yesterday evening (Tuesday December 8, 2009) a forum thread [1] was started by Stefan (under the ID of "gigglesworth") relating to the above subjects. As is well known, ELRepo provided the fasttrack packages during the lifetime of CentOS 5.3 but following on from Karanbir's assertion that CentOS will provide the fasttrack packages for 5.4 we, at ELRepo, have stepped down from providing that service. Will CentOS-devs please have a look at the above mentioned thread and then respond, accordingly, to the OP. Regards, Alan. [1] http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23695&forum=42

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Web based Package DB
by Karanbir Singh 24 Jun '10

24 Jun '10

Hi, Didi and I met up yesterday afternoon and had a chat about creating a web interface to the centos repositories. Something along the lines of repoview, but a thicker, richer experience. So what features would everyone like to see from something like this ? We have a few ideas already, but it would be nice to get feedback on what people expect ( so we know how far off the mark we were :) ) We hope to resurrect the 'pandora' project as a side effect from this. - KB

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PXE Boot CentOS 5.5 Live CD
by Krishnaprasad_K＠Dell.com 23 Jun '10

23 Jun '10

Hello, This is regarding a query w.r.t CentOS 5.5 Live CD Bootup from PXE server. From the CentOS LiveCD project webpage, i do see that PXE booting of CentOS live CD is pretty simple as the ISO image itself is carried inside the initrd. I downloaded the "livecd-tools-014-8.src.rpm" from CentOS repositories and created a new initrd image ( which contains Live ISO image ) using "livecd-iso-to-pxeboot.sh" script. # ./livecd-iso-to-pxeboot.sh CentOS-5.5-i386-LiveCD-Release2.iso This creates a new initrd by incorporating the ISO image ( live ISO image ) with the existing initrd present in the live CD ISO image. But when i use this updated initrd from PXE server, it says "Boot failed...press a key to retry or wait to reset..." Here is the PXE entry:- kernel vmlinuz0 APPEND initrd=initrd0.img root=/CentOS-5.5-i386-LiveCD-Release2.iso rootfstype=iso9660 rootflags=loop 3 - where vmlinuz0 is the kernel image present in the CentOS iso and initrd0.img is the updated initrd image created using the script ( livecd-xxx-pxe.sh ). i.e. CentOS live ISO initrd with ISO image. When the /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default is updated with the above entries, then server gets restarted and in the next boot up system shows an error, i.e. "Alert ! System fatal error during previous boot" any one have experienced same issues? Thanks in Advance ! - Krishnaprasad

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DRBD again...
by Joseph L. Casale 22 Jun '10

22 Jun '10

A while we discussed dropping the old drbd packages out of the repo. I have a two node cluster I rolled from the same ks file and built rpms from a supported version of drbd using their trivial and well documented method, so when I needed help, I could get it:) During a `yum update` on only "one" node, it wants to replace drbd.x86_64 8.3.7-1 with drbd82? Uh, ok... I don't have the genuine skill to manage packages for a repo of such importance like a CentOS repo, but an abandoned package is of equal harm. When a user installs those and then goes to the drbd list for help I suspect he would get the same reply if he installed CentOS 5.0 then encountered an issue and asked for help. Fair? The list of fixes from 8.2.x to current is long. Given the package building is so well done for drbd, by Linbit, does it make sense to duplicate their effort and simply make work for the maintainers of this repo? Thanks guys, jlc

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Forum Post: "Lance Davis Question..."
by Alan Bartlett 22 Jun '10

22 Jun '10

There has been a recent forum post with the subject header as quoted, above. [1] I feel that it would be best answered by one of the Core Development Team. Of all the usual people that I would consider to ask to craft a suitable response, I think Russ would be the most appropriate person. So, grandchildren permitting, a sentence -- or even a paragraph -- would be appreciated, please. Regards, Alan. [1] http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=26780&forum=14

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CentOS Artwork Repository (tagged revision 0.0.1)
by Alain Reguera Delgado 18 Jun '10

18 Jun '10

Hi Guys, I would like to share with you the 0.0.1 tagged revision of CentOS Artwork Repository. The CentOS Artwork Repository, as it comes inside 0.0.1 tagged revision, is a tool where graphic designers, translators and programmers do their best to automate image production used to build a monolithic corporate visual identity for the CentOS project. As final goal we have in mind to automate image rendering for many languages, many major releases, and different artistic themes; in a way that people building rpms (or anything that needs images) could use the artwork rendering process. This, in order to give one step forward onto CentOS automation. The CentOS Artwork Repository 0.0.1 tagged revision is a preview of what we are doing to automate CentOS artwork production. It is a work in progress and surely many things need to be corrected. If you are interested on CentOS Artwork, download the following file: http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=centos-artwo… test it on your workstation, report bugs, and make suggestions. It is possible that 0.0.1 tagged revision structure be reflected inside https://projects.centos.org/svn/artwork, which is the CentOS Artwork Repository standard location. Best Regards, al.

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Artwork pre-prep for v6
by Marcus Moeller 17 Jun '10

17 Jun '10

Hi all, as already stated in IRC I am going to start pre-preparation of a new artwork for v6. This will include a custom Plymouth theme as well as wallpaper and icon packages. If one wants to complain, do it now, please. Otherwise I will just go ahead. Best Regards Marcus

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Debuginfo packages not signed
by Phil Schaffner 15 Jun '10

15 Jun '10

Just noticed that (at least some - e.g. CentOS-5 kernel-debuginfo, kernel-debuginfo-common, aspell-debuginfo) debuginfo packages are not signed. Started to file a bug entry, but don't know if it is merited. Is the intent to have these packages signed? The Debuginfo Wiki page shows "gpgcheck=1". http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories/DebugInfo Phil

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LiveCD suggestion
by Phil Schaffner 07 Jun '10

07 Jun '10

For the next iteration of the LiveCD I would suggest omitting the netinstall option. This has caused a rather large support load on the fora (or forums if you prefer) from people who can't get it to work. As netinstall is really most useful with a "perfect" network connection or local archive, and can be tricky to get right, it is just confusing a lot of the LiveCD "market segment". More sophisticated users will just grab the netinstall CD or use images/boot.iso. Removing it would also leave more room for useful apps. Phil

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