January 2014 - devel - lists.centos.org

anaconda dependency calculation?
by Nicholas Byrne 04 Aug '25

04 Aug '25

Hi all, I'm trying to find a tool that calculates all dependencies for a specific package or group of packages for use with CentOS 5 (beta) with the intention of putting together a custom single CD build of CentOS 5. With CentOS 4 i used a python script that used the hdrlist module to find all dependencies which borrowed code from a number of sources. I've looked at yumdownloader and how it checks dependencies (using the --resolve option) but if i pass it the list of packages defined in say the Base and the Core yum groups which generally form an absolute minimal install i end up with about 200 packages. If i do a custom install (using beta 1 disks) and deselect everything i end up with over 300 packages. So i'm guessing anaconda calculates dependencies in a slightly different way, can anyone point me to files/code where i should be looking to find out? Thanks very much in advance for help Nick This e-mail is the property of Quadriga Worldwide Ltd, intended for the addressee only and confidential. Any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message or any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from Quadriga may be monitored. Quadriga cannot guarantee any message delivery method is secure or error-free. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. We do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions in this message and/or attachment that arise as a result of transmission. You should carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Quadriga.

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forums + portal for {lang}.centos.org sites
by Karanbir Singh 16 Aug '24

16 Aug '24

Hi, Earlier in the evening today Ralph, Fabian and I had a chat about the present state of the language subsites. This email sort of summarises the main issue ( s/w ). We seem to have run into a slight technical hitch with punbb/fluxbb. They dont support LDAP as a backend. And we had decided a few months back that all new rollouts must have ldap backend so we can rollin CentOS-DS / openldap based backend. So we need to look at alternatives, and since the primary focus of these international sites is going be forums : Here is a shortlist ( if there is anything else that people are aware of, please add to this list ) - phpBB - SMF - Fudforum - phorum - fluxbb Requirements: - Must be able to scale ( couple of hundred thousand msgs ) - Must be able to handle ldap auth ( if it cant, whats involved in writing the ldap-auth portion ) - Must address the specific requirements raised by the present www.centos.org forum users ( Can you please fill this section in ? ) - Must support all languages we need ( pure utf8 support would be good ) - Secure - Skin'able Nice to have: - Capable of running multiple instances from a single deployment - responsive community :D Things we will need to do: - Decide on what s/w to use. - Give the ArtWork people enough time to get the look & feel sorted. - Migrate newbb forums from www.centos.org to $system ( hey, english is a language too :D ). - Migrate fr.centos.org into the final s/w - setup {de/es/ja/it/pt_br}.centos.org Actions: Ralph and Fabian are going to work on setting up a test ldap server, once that is online we will then start by installing into our test-vm-farm the various s/w to eval them. If anyone would like to help, please feel free to jump right in. I'll setup a wiki page for this issue, which might be a good place to track progress. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219@icq

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CentOS 7 Artwork
by Marcus Moeller 10 Jun '14

10 Jun '14

Hi all. Here is my proposal artwork for the upcoming CentOS 7 release. https://polybox.ethz.ch/public.php?service=files&t=b7bc0652a190725e39fe9558… https://polybox.ethz.ch/public.php?service=files&t=5b788217a30cb72953e64454… Greets Marcus

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OpenNebula Variant and Cloud SIG proposals
by Jaime Melis 26 May '14

26 May '14

Apologies, I sent this to KB's direct mailbox earlier today and apparently I didn't send it to centos-devel. So I'm forwarding it now. Given that there are at least two other projects keen to make this happen, it would be great if the Cloud SIG could be a single multicloud target. -- Hello, I'm Jaime Melis from the OpenNebula project [1]. We have been involved with CentOS for the past year making a stable Cloud Management Platform [2]. I would like to hereby propose a new CentOS variant, namely the OpenNebula variant. This variant would add three roles to the CentOS installation: * OpenNebula Frontend * OpenNebula Node KVM * OpenNebula Node Xen The work for the Frontend and Node KVM roles has been completed and is ready to be released. The Node Xen role is still in progress although close to being finished. This work should take place under the Cloud SIG umbrella, which right as of now doesn't exist, so I would like to also propose the creation of this group with the aim of making the major cloud platforms work wth Centos. Regards, Jaime [1] http://opennebula.org/ [2] http://wiki.centos.org/Cloud/OpenNebula/QuickStart -- Jaime Melis Project Engineer OpenNebula - Flexible Enterprise Cloud Made Simple www.OpenNebula.org | jmelis(a)opennebula.org

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Secure Boot in RHEL7beta
by Akemi Yagi 30 Apr '14

30 Apr '14

RHEL 7 beta can be installed on systems with 'Secure Boot' enabled as seen in the Installation Guide [1]. More info about Secure Boot is available from Fedora docs and the links therein [2,3] Question is how the implementation of Secure Boot should be handled in CentOS. Akemi [1] https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux… [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Secureboot [3] http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/18/html/UEFI_Secure_Boot_Guide/i…

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Russian localized Freenode.net channel #centos-ru
by Мернов Георгий 26 Feb '14

26 Feb '14

Didn't receive an answer for my mail, trying to send it again. Hi, i would like to start a Cyrillic UTF-8 community channel on a Freenode. Can you assist me in ? -- С Уважением Мернов Георгий

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Storage SIG proposal
by Patrick McGarry 13 Feb '14

13 Feb '14

Greetings CentOS-devel, We here at Inktank (and the Ceph project) are quite interested in the direction that CentOS is headed and would love to propose a 'Storage SIG' to help ensure that something so fundamental gets the proper attention. There are definitely aspects that will overlap with Core, Cloud, and Virtualization, but we think there are plenty of places where storage should have it's own discourse. We are already building CentOS packages for Ceph and would like to encourage other storage offerings to do the same. We are definitely in alignment with the requirements and want to ensure that: 1) the discourse remains primarily CentOS related, or at least tangentially applicable. 2) there is plenty of feedback and control into, and out of, the core CentOS community. 3) all communications take place in public (either IRC or mailing lists). 4) all code is compatible with a FOSS license (in our case, LGPL v2 w/ fragmented copyright). 5) all documentation is compatible with the CentOS wiki license. 6) the storage SIG would be very mindful of CentOS direction and coordinate effectively. 7) we have the appropriate buy-in from the CentOS devteam. For a (very rough) outline of form and function I was thinking of the following. However, this will obviously grow and mature with feedback. Mission To ensure that CentOS is at the forefront of next generation storage technology and has a wide range of mature options for both traditional and distributed systems. Technical Goals * Assist with packaging and testing of storage technologies for CentOS repositories * Documenting paths to deployment and use for various storage technologies * Hold an open discourse around storage technology as it applies to CentOS * Work closely with providers of storage technology to ensure tight integration with CentOS Community Goals * Provide an easy-to-consume menu of storage and deployment/orchestration options * Act as a resource for those exploring next generation storage technology * Ensure that all storage technology is addressed equally without favoritism * Work with users to publish use cases and real-world examples for review I welcome any and all feedback and look forward to working with the CentOS community. Thanks. Best Regards, Patrick McGarry Director, Community || Inktank http://ceph.com || http://inktank.com @scuttlemonkey || @ceph || @inktank

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/opt/rh is a directory and not a symbolic link when installing devtoolset
by Dave Johansen 11 Feb '14

11 Feb '14

I just installed devtoolset-1.1-gcc-c++ and devtoolset-1.1-gcc-plugin-devel on a clean install and after doing so /opt/rh was a directory and not a symbolic link to /opt/centos. It was an easy fix, but is there something I can do to help diagnose the cause of the issue so it won't bite other people? Thanks, Dave

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Xen/Xen4CentOS SIG
by Lars Kurth 10 Feb '14

10 Feb '14

Hi all, congratulations on the RedHat/CentOS announcement. Sorry for responding so late on SIGs: I was in China until recently and had no time to follow up. There is definitely interest to continue the Xen (or Xen4CentOS) SIG within CentOS, building on the Xen4CentOS work of last year. I want to get the endorsement of the Xen Project Advisory Board for joining the SIG at next Tuesday's board meeting. This will give an application (if needed) extra weight. I don't expect any issues. The other question I have is whether we do need to re-apply (http://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup lists Xen4CentOS as a SIG already) and what the format for an application would be other than posting to this list. Maybe we ought to look at the naming of the SIG and make it more generic to cover for future version changes in Xen as well as targeting CentOS versions beyond CentOS 7 (which ought to be a lot easier than CentOS 6 because we only need Xen and no custom kernel). Also, there would probably be practical issues on list naming, etc. (Xen4CentOS is merged with CentOS-virt from a list perspective). I don't have an issue with the status quo, but it may be cleaner for CentOS in the long run if there was a clear SIG to list mapping. Best Regards Lars

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ClearCenter Marketplace for CentOS Variant
by David Loper 07 Feb '14

07 Feb '14

ClearCenter and ClearFoundation are interested in starting a CentOS variant called 'ClearCenter Marketplace for CentOS'. This will allow management of various CentOS services, EPEL packages, and third party applications to be easily managed and configured under CentOS. We are also interested in being part of a SIG centered around 'Server Management.' Please let us know the next steps. We'd like to get started right away and we are willing to participate in the process of helping to set up shop. Let us know how we can serve. -- David Loper President, ClearFoundation

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VoIP SIG
by Rob Thomas 06 Feb '14

06 Feb '14

I'd like to put my hand up to be part of the VoIP SIG. After mentioning this in IRC, I've also had two other people contact me privately (puzzled and JHogarth) with their interest too. Currently we (FreePBX) build 'FreePBX Distro', which is a up-to-date CentOS distro, with a couple of known-broken packages upgraded (drbd, pacemaker) or replaced (asterisk). --Rob

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Repository structures for SIG and variants in the future
by Jim Perrin 05 Feb '14

05 Feb '14

As part of opening up the possibilities for SIGs and Variants within the CentOS ecosystem, we need to give some thought to how repositories should be structured so that different can cooperate with each other. What we have discussed in the past, and what I'd like to propose to the -devel community, is that we adopt a page similar to the KDE framework. The way I envision this working is as follows: - Tier 1 repositories: Adds packages only. These repos may not update or replace anything in the core distribution. (Example: EPEL) - Tier 2 repositories: These repositories may provide provide packages that update or otherwise enhance packages in the base distribution, but otherwise maintain compatibility. (Example IUS - Tier 3 repositories: These repositories contain packages that conflict with software inside the core distribution. This would be Xen4CentOS for example, which replaces the kernel, and adds in xen functionality. Each tier may choose to rely on dependencies from repositories in the tier above it, but not the other way around. For example, the tier 3 Xen4 repository could choose to rely on packages from a tier1 like EPEL, or a tier2 like IUS. However a tier1 or tier2 could not rely on a tier3. A good real-world example of this would be rpmfusion's dependence on the EPEL repository. The other aspect of this that needs to be discussed is package duplication. For example, several of the proposed SIGs have some overlap in their packages. Would the preference here be that each SIG/Variant maintain their own version of the package, or should there be a common package set established? Both methods fit into the model described above, and both have pros/cons associated. What does the community think about this? -- Jim Perrin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org twitter: @BitIntegrity | GPG Key: FA09AD77

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Re: [CentOS-devel] CentOS 7 Artwork
by Tuomas Kuosmanen 02 Feb '14

02 Feb '14

On Wed, 2014-01-15 at 10:54 +0100, Marcus Moeller wrote: > Hi all. > > Here is my proposal artwork for the upcoming CentOS 7 release. Nice! Marcus, I wanted to share this: The stars picture reminds me of this one I did: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2730444/foss/spaceflight.png Pretty nice co-incidence and a common theme we had by accident! =) This was one of the ideas I had while I was helping the guys with the website. (I subscribed after Karanbir showed me your mail in the archives, sorry if I messed up the mail thread headers) /Tuomas

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FreeIPA functional testing
by James Hogarth 01 Feb '14

01 Feb '14

Hi all, The initial commit I made (not carried out pull request just yet) does the following: * Installs IPA packages * Does automated basic configuration of server * Verifies kerberos tickets being issued for host/admin user * Tests adding a user (and checks that the initial password is expired plus the change) In the next few days I'm intending to add: * Test adding a service and getting a keytab and certificate for that service * Test adding a host * Test adding DNS zone and records * Test reloading bind (regression test for RHBA-2013-0739) * Test sudo rules configured via IPA * Test deleting all the stuff added above After that I'll issue the pull request... Next stage subsequent to the server tests working would be client side to tests registration against the IPA server itself... Is there anything else that anyone can think of that would be useful to have in the IPA test suite? Cheers, James

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CentOS Interoperability SIG
by Clint Savage 29 Jan '14

29 Jan '14

One of the major values of the EL rebuild ecosystem is the ability to interoperate, or the ability to fork from the upstream. This provides purpose in many ways, choice being the most heralded. Since the CentOS community has teamed up with Red Hat to allow for Special Interest Groups to join them, it seems that there might be a bit less of an ecosystem available. The goal of the Interoperability SIG is to ensure that the ability to fork and rebuild still exist. Our communities already exist outside of the CentOS community purview. They are currently the GoOSe Project[1] and the Ascendos Project[2]. This shared community will serve as a "reference implementation", yet will still be operated and marketed as a product and community separate from CentOS. Consider it something of CentOS "embassy" of sorts. It would seem that this SIG could be construed as contrary to the goals of the CentOS project. However, we believe there is value added to the CentOS project. We are interested in improving the CentOS community in at least a few ways. * Providing feedback and collaboration on common issues. Including, but not limited to, reporting bugs, providing patches, discussing packaging techniques, rebuilding variants, QA, ISO building, etc. * Collaboration on documentation of the rebuild process, rebranding of documentation, providing new documentation, etc. * Build or maintain tools to ease rebranding of upstream packages as to ease adoption by companies who build upon and release software based on CentOS. * Providing tools to help monitor statuses of builds, repositories, releases, etc. Whether they be part of the CentOS community or otherwise. With these goals in mind, we'd like to formally request an Interoperability Special Interest Group within the CentOS community. Please let us know how to further proceed. Cheers, Clint Savage Lead Developer, GoOSe project 1 - http://gooseproject.org (#gooseproject on irc.freenode.net) 2 - http://ascendos.org (#ascendos on irc.freenode.net)

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Wider conversation around process and delivery for the Cloud SIG
by Karanbir Singh 29 Jan '14

29 Jan '14

hi, I'd like to invite everyone wanting to contribute to the Cloud SIG and representing a project outside centos.org to come along for a chat on google hangout at the CentOS OfficeHours 23rd Jan 2014 @ 16:00 UTC. Because we only have a few slots for people to talk, I've shortlisted these folks: OpenStack: Mike Burns, Dave Neary, Rich Bowen Eucalyptus: Greg DK OpenNebula: Jaime Melis CloudStack: Sebastien Goasguen oVirt: Doron Fediuck If you want to be on this list, please get in touch. If you are on this list but cant make it at that date/time, please nominate someone else in your place and let me know their email address so I can notify them of the url to join. This will be a video/audio session and will be publicly broadcast over youtube/hangouts on air; the recording of the session will be available immediately after. Bonus cookies for everyone who turns up in their project tshirts! You can see what time that is on your local timezone at this url : http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140123T16&am=30 About the session: - Plan on an hour - Every project should do a few minutes worth of a pitch about what they would like to see as a good first goal and a good longer term goal. - We can then discuss delivery mechanis, and how the forward maintenance of the projects payload is going to work ( essentially, workout how the rpms will map to os/ and updates/ ) - Consider the workflow from git.centos.org ( KB to do a 5 min demo ) Regards, -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc

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Chromium
by Logan McNaughton 29 Jan '14

29 Jan '14

This is just a ping for whoever manages http://people.centos.org/hughesjr/chromium/6, wondering if you could update to Chromium 32?

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mirrors for contribution paths
by Karanbir Singh 29 Jan '14

29 Jan '14

hi At the moment, we use gitorious.org for inbounc test contributions, but we've adopted github for some of the newer content going into git.centos.org with manual bridges to/from git.centos.org in both cases. I just want to make sure we are doing what people find easiest, and then we do the same thing all around, with that in mind should we : - have mirrors for content on both github.com and gitorious.org - mirror everything to gitorious.org only - mirror everything to github.com only ofcourse, with ACL's coming up into git.centos.org - there will be plenty of opportunity to work directly inside git.centos.org ( with post-recv triggers pushing to whatever wherever we mirror the repos to ). - KB -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc

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migrating artwork to git.centos.org
by Jim Perrin 29 Jan '14

29 Jan '14

So, running this by the list for opinions: We're going to be moving the Artwork SIG from its current home at https://projects.centos.org/trac/artwork/ (svn) to a new home on git.centos.org. In this transition, we'd like to clean up some of the older content that's no longer used. The easy way to do this would be to pull current svn repo, strip out the legacy content, and then upload clean into git. While this is my preference, the drawback is that it removes any commit history for the project prior to the cutover date. The benefit is we have a clean, and more importantly, current starting point to work from for the seven beta build, which we'd like to start putting out in public. Are there objections to this approach? -- Jim Perrin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org twitter: @BitIntegrity | GPG Key: FA09AD77

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Cloud-init for CentOS?
by Nux! 28 Jan '14

28 Jan '14

Hello, Can someone more involved with the Cloud SIG advise on how to use cloud-init in such a way that it does not violate the SIG rules? I.e. please add it to one of the CentOS repos so we can use it "legally". :-) The purpose is including it in "official" Cloudstack CentOS images. Regards, Lucian -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro

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Cloud Instance SIG Hackathon @ CentOS Dojo 31st Jan 2014
by Karanbir Singh 28 Jan '14

28 Jan '14

hi, We are organising a hack session to try and build, test and deliver a set of CentOS-5/6 32bit/64bit images usable by various onpremise cloud setups. This email aims to give everyone an overview of what to expect on the day, so we can jump right in on the day and get productive. This is a bit of a wordy email, so feel free to skip details - I will have most of the important stuff on paper to hand out on the day as well. The Hack session is expected to start just after lunch, and will run through to the end of the day ( ~ 17:30 ); On the day, I will have a local Wifi network with SSID DojoHackathon running at the time, everyone wanting to participate will need to get onto that. dhcp on the network will hand out 172.30.30.100 - 250 IP's. There is a gateway on .1 that will NAT requests to the upstream internet ( but I'm told its slow, so dont rely on it being there ). If anyone needs content to pull, please let either me or Johnny know, we will mirror it down before the event and make sure its on the mirror host on the network at the time. We are going to have : - CentOS 5/6 on both 32/64 bit x86 - EPEL 5/6 - EPEL-Testing 5/6 Various people representing projects have offered to bring pre-setup cloud infra on their laptops, thanks for that. Lets try and target everyone of those on the day. So far the list is : - OpenNebula - CloudStack - OpenStack ( the HPCloud edition ) - OpenStack ( the RDO edition ) A rather basic idea of what to expect in terms of infra/network on the day : http://bit.ly/1ffXr4G ; Workflow anticipated: - git.centos.org ( hosted locally ) will have the git repos that host kickstarts and metadata files that have some info around the kickstarts. - anyone can clone the git repos ( I will make sure its pretty clear as to what repo to get for what task, ideally there will only be one git repo with all the kickstarts ). - make changes / edits / push back to git.centos.org ( please ensure git user.name and user.email is sane ) - git post-recv triggers kick off the actual image builds on the image-builder node, which will then push the resulting file to cloud.centos.org ( both image-builder and cloud.centos.org mirrors will be hosted locally ). - cloud images from cloud.centos.org can then be downloaded and instantiated on the cloud infra people are running; - once satisfied that the image does everything that is 'required', git clone the t_functional repo, and run the test suite. PASS on that would indicate them that the image is good to ship. For the day, we will trim the test suite down to just the basic stuff that runs in 10 min or less. - Indicate pass with a comment in the metadata file and git commit which starts with 'RELEASEABLE ', git push. rinse & repeat for 32bit and 64bit. Worth noting here that the reason i have all the various components setup to work with real world urls ( faked by dnsmasq on the .1 machine ) is that post hackathon the exact same infra will go live on the same urls. With one major change : we will have little or no ACL's fon the git repos at the hackathon to make live easier and encourage participation. Post Hackathon, we'll need to establish a mechanism for people to request commit access. If we still have time at the end of the day, we can shoot to deliver something that works for vmware, ovirt and docker. I am still waiting to hear back from the Eucalyptus guys if someone from their side is going to be at the hack session. please note: all kickstarst and images will need to only consume content hosted in mirror.centos.org and epel ( or if you need something else, let us know before Wed 29th ). See you there, -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc

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Adding community PostgreSQL RPMs to CentOS repositories.
by Devrim GÜNDÜZ 27 Jan '14

27 Jan '14

Hi, Greetings first: I am maintaining the PostgreSQL community RPMs : http//yum.postgresql.org About 2 years before, Karanbir and I spoke a bit about adding these RPMs to CentOS repositories. Right now, only 8.4 is officially supported in RHEL/CentOS, which will be EOL'ed in a few months by upstream. However, community has RPMs for all versions from 8.4 to 9.3, which are in active development and released at the same time with the tarballs. Community RPMs has the ability for parallel installation also, so that people can run multiple version as the same time. So, how would you like to proceed? The SVN repo is open to public, and all you will need to do is pulling them and building the packages on CentOS servers. Regards, -- Devrim GÜNDÜZ Principal Systems Engineer @ EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com PostgreSQL Danışmanı/Consultant, Red Hat Certified Engineer Community: devrim~PostgreSQL.org, devrim.gunduz~linux.org.tr http://www.gunduz.org Twitter: http://twitter.com/devrimgunduz

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EPEL and i686
by Karanbir Singh 25 Jan '14

25 Jan '14

Hi Whats the plan for EPEL i686 / EL7 ? Does anyone know if there is even going to be a multilib attempt or is everything going to stay x86_64 clean ? - KB -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc

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Packaging Office hours at 16:00 UTC today
by Jim Perrin 24 Jan '14

24 Jan '14

At 10am CST / 16:00 UTC we'll be starting the packaging office hours discussion for SIGs and Variants. if you've got some questions you'd like us to address, please email them to us, or ask your questions via irc in #centos-devel on freenode. If you want to just follow along, we'll be broadcasting the session via http://www.centos.org/media/ -- Jim Perrin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org twitter: @BitIntegrity | GPG Key: FA09AD77

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Cloud Instance SIG
by Karanbir Singh 23 Jan '14

23 Jan '14

hi guys, pushing this a bit forward since there is quite a bit of activity in this area already : http://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/CloudInstance while there are quite a few people keen on this subject, I've not added names to the wiki page, please come along and either edit it in ( if you are editgroup members ) or request addition and setup a homepage for yourself on the wiki. going out on a limb here but I am going to propose we get cloud-init out of EPEL into a local repo here so we can mange the entire stack locally for the time being while the larger repo dependancy conversations are ongoing. Also, this Wednesday's OfficeHours on Wed 22nd at 10:00 UTC ( http://wiki.centos.org/OfficeHours ) is dedicated to the Openstack images conversation. -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc

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