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Atomic Host Definition [Discussion Draft]
by Joe Brockmeier 06 Oct '14

06 Oct '14

Hi all, Several folks have asked for a definition of what's supposed to be in an Atomic Host -- which is sort of loosely defined currently, but a more explicit definition is in order. Including a discussion draft based on working documents for RHEL Atomic here. Apologies for sending it to such a wide audience (CentOS, Fedora, and Atomic-devel) but I know we have participants who are only on one of the lists. The text is below in Markdown and I've also created a Gist [1] should anyone wish to send patches that way. Note there's a full list of packages at the end, from the RHEL work. This is not to say "Atomic must include these packages" but "here's what we're currently working with." [1] https://gist.github.com/jzb/0f336c6f23a0ba145b0a#file-atomic-host-definition Thoughts, comments, flames? Best, jzb # # # # Atomic Host Definition [Discussion Draft] This document is meant to serve as a baseline definition for Project Atomic hosts, to be implemented from CentOS, Fedora, and Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL). The purpose of the document is not to restrict the packages or services offered with an Atomic host, but to ensure a baseline of functionality and working standard that each product team can implement **before** adding additional functionality. The initial working draft is being taken from work going into RHEL Atomic, but it is expected that the CentOS Atomic SIG and Fedora Cloud Workgroup will provide input and direction to Project Atomic going forward. This is simply the first cut at a shared understanding that gives each team a basis for cooperation. ## Atomic Host Definition The next section provides some guidance on how an Atomic host differs from other products that are provided by the distributions, and the expectations that projects should convey to users. ### What is an Atomic Host? The Atomic Host is a minimal set of packages and services essential to running and orchestrating containers: * Minimal Footprint: An Atomic Host should have a minimal footprint with only essential technologies needed to run containers. Services that can or should be run in a container should *not* be part of the Atomic Host. * Container Host Optimized: The Atomic Host **must** be able to build, deploy, and run containers "out of the box." The Atomic host is a single-purpose OS, customized to run containers and that's all. Additional services and applications should be deployed in containers, not added to the host. * Support for Docker Container Format: Fairly self-explanatory, the Atomic host should include all applications and services required to run Docker containers. * Atomic Update and Rollback Capability: Using rpm-ostree/OStree, Atomic hosts will support atomic updates and rollbacks to the previous release state. * Provided as a tree defined by the project team (not RPMs), with updated trees for errata and minor releases. - DIY Atomic Trees: It's up to the project whether they wish to provide tools and guidance (documentation) around building their own Atomic trees. * Rolling Stream of Updates: The expectation is that Atomic hosts will not have an "overlapping stream" of supported releases. Instead, users will be expected to move to an updated release rather than stay on a specific release version. - Example: Fedora 20 Atomic Host will receive monthly updates while Fedora 21 is in development. When Fedora 21 Atomic Host is released, the next update for users on Fedora 20 Atomic Host will carry them to Fedora 21, and so forth. **At this time we won't plan to carry overlapping versions of the operating system for Atomic Host users.** * Multi-host orchestration capabilities for Atomic Host infrastructure. * Multi-host infrastructure for application containers. * x86_64 Only: Current plans are for the Atomic Host to be x86_64 only. * Target platforms: KVM (qcow2), Baremetal, AWS AMI, and GCE. ### Compatibility With Parent Distribution The Atomic Host is composed of packages from the parent distribution and is expected to be compatible with CentOS, Fedora, or RHEL (respectively) and its behavior should not differ from the parent distribution where similar functionality exists. * ABI/KABI Compatibility: Atomic Host is generally compatible with underlying ABI and KABI for common packages. * Exceptions to ABI compatibility: Docker and Kubernetes *may* break ABI compatibility. * Unique Packages: May be composed from sources outside the standard distribution (e.g., EPEL, Copr trees). * Release Versioning: Numbering will follow parent distribution. * Asynchronous Updates: The Atomic host functionality may move ahead of parent distribution where necessary. * For example, an update in Anaconda may be needed that isn't yet available in CentOS 7. The Atomic version of Anaconda may move ahead of CentOS 7 if necessary and sync up at a later date. * Long-term divergence is *not* planned. Any instances where packages diverge from the parent distribution needs to be tracked, and a plan in place to ensure the packages sync up in time. ## Goals for Atomic Hosts The goal for the Atomic Host is *not* to be a full, general purpose, operating system. It's a single-purpose host designed to run Docker containers and provide orchestration tools to manage containers at scale. * Independent release cadence from parent distribution to respond to rapidly changing ecosystem. * Deliver images for bare metal and important cloud/virtualization platforms (AWS, GCE, KVM, OpenStack). * Minimal footprint. ## Package Definition: ### Newer than / different from RHEL/CentOS 7 * tuned * glib2 * glib-networking * libsoup * docker * hawkey * libsolv * authconfig * python-blivet * anaconda * pykickstart * lorax * systemd ### New Packages * nss-altfiles * libgsystem * ostree * rpm-ostree-client ### Compose Tooling * rpm-ostree * rpm-ostree-toolbox ### Appendix A: Full Package List (RHEL 7 Atomic) ModemManager-glib-1.1.0-6.git20130913.el7.x86_64 NetworkManager-0.9.9.1-26.git20140326.4dba720.el7_0.x86_64 NetworkManager-glib-0.9.9.1-26.git20140326.4dba720.el7_0.x86_64 PyYAML-3.10-11.el7.x86_64 acl-2.2.51-12.el7.x86_64 audit-2.3.3-4.el7.x86_64 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tzdata-2014g-1.el7.noarch usermode-1.111-5.el7.x86_64 ustr-1.0.4-16.el7.x86_64 util-linux-2.23.2-16.el7.x86_64 vim-minimal-7.4.160-1.el7.x86_64 virt-what-1.13-5.el7.x86_64 wpa_supplicant-2.0-12.el7.x86_64 xfsprogs-3.2.0-0.10.alpha2.el7.x86_64 xz-5.1.2-8alpha.el7.x86_64 xz-libs-5.1.2-8alpha.el7.x86_64 yum-3.4.3-118.el7.noarch yum-metadata-parser-1.1.4-10.el7.x86_64 zlib-1.2.7-13.el7.x86_64 -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud & Storage Analyst jzb(a)redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/

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CBS/Infra Meeting 6-Oct-2014 13:00 UTC
by Brian Stinson 06 Oct '14

06 Oct '14

Hi All, It's time for another CBS/Infra meeting 6-Oct-2014 in #centos-devel on Freenode. Agenda: #info Topic: Status Updates #info Topic: Open Floor Cheers! Brian -- Brian Stinson bstinson(a)ksu.edu | IRC: bstinson | Bitbucket/Twitter: bstinsonmhk

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CBS/Infra Meeting 29-Sep-2014 13:00 UTC
by Brian Stinson 06 Oct '14

06 Oct '14

Hi All, It's time for another CBS/Infra meeting: Monday 29-Sep-2014 at 13:00 UTC in #centos-devel on freenode. Agenda: #topic Greetings #topic Old Business - Status updates - Auth for git.c.o #topic New Business - Sig branch/build-target naming scheme #topic Open Floor Cheers! Brian -- Brian Stinson bstinson(a)ksu.edu | IRC: bstinson | Bitbucket/Twitter: bstinsonmhk

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yum-plugin-security and shellshock
by Nux! 06 Oct '14

06 Oct '14

Hello, Since Shellshock I have looked at using automated updates via yum-cron, but I only want them in case of critical issues. I expected that yum-plugin-security would at least update bash when this command was used: yum --security update-minimal Does this work on RHEL only? Lucian -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro

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CentOS 7 Amazon AMI?
by Francisco A. Lozano 06 Oct '14

06 Oct '14

CentOS 7 was released in July and, 3 months later, there's not an AMI yet. Is it coming anytime soon - or maybe not coming at all? Is there any blocking issue for this to happen? I'm asking because someone recently said in issue tracker http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=6228: > (...) > In the near future we also want to migrate to CentOS 7 and am hearing there may no longer be AMIs for that. > > Could you possibly: > * Discuss possibilities for HVM and CentOS 6.5 or 7 and possible workarounds > * Discuss current thinking on AWS and CentOS 7 Francisco A. Lozano

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Centos-7 32 Bit Questions
by Bob Lightfoot 03 Oct '14

03 Oct '14

Dear Johnny Hughes and others: I've spent the morning ereading thru the mailing list archives from June and July while my Centos 7 machine mock user ran a mock --init using the mock.cfg found in the 7.00.02 kernel folder. I have a server running C6 at this time that won't support 64 bit, it was built before Y2K believe it or not. I saw some reference to a git repository and the need to rebuild some packages. I've used mock a fair amount recently and would love to assiste if there is work needing done. Sincerely, Bob Lightfoot

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[DISCUSS] Atomic-specific key for signing
by Joe Brockmeier 03 Oct '14

03 Oct '14

Hi all, During last week's meeting I agreed to bring this up (sorry for the delay). KB asked "do we care and how much, if at all, that the key used to sign the content is the real distro key?" (Because at the outset, it's going to be more difficult to use the distro key for Atomic host.) IMO, we don't so long as we have a SIG key that is publicized. I don't see any reason it has to be the main CentOS / distro key. Any objections/thoughts/comments? Thanks, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud & Storage Analyst jzb(a)redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/

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Atomic SIG Meeting minutes 2014-09-30
by Joe Brockmeier 02 Oct '14

02 Oct '14

========================== #atomic: CentOS Atomic SIG ========================== Meeting started by jzb at 14:39:36 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/atomic/2014-09-30/atomic.2014-09-30-14.39.… . Meeting summary --------------- * SIG proposal is posted on wiki page (quaid, 14:41:24) * ACTION: jzb ping SIG members on wiki access. (jzb, 14:43:02) * LINK: http://wiki.centos.org/Contribute#head-42b3d8e26400a106851a61aebe5c2cca54dd… (quaid, 14:43:14) * SIG members should ask on centos-docs as per http://wiki.centos.org/Contribute#head-42b3d8e26400a106851a61aebe5c2cca54dd… (quaid, 14:43:34) * ACTION: jzb open discussion on how Atomic should be listed in bugs.centos.org (jzb, 14:44:03) * ACTION: jzb to follow up with quaid on getting hardware for bare metal work under *centos.org (jzb, 14:55:51) * ACTION: bexelbie put out docs workflow to mailing list to see if there's any dissent/better ideads. (jzb, 15:07:43) * new business (jzb, 15:08:05) * ACTION: jzb get Atomic definition out by end of week to Project Atomic (SIG will want to review) (jzb, 15:21:00) Meeting ended at 15:23:16 UTC. Action Items ------------ * jzb ping SIG members on wiki access. * jzb open discussion on how Atomic should be listed in bugs.centos.org * jzb to follow up with quaid on getting hardware for bare metal work under *centos.org * bexelbie put out docs workflow to mailing list to see if there's any dissent/better ideads. * jzb get Atomic definition out by end of week to Project Atomic (SIG will want to review) Action Items, by person ----------------------- * bexelbie * bexelbie put out docs workflow to mailing list to see if there's any dissent/better ideads. * jzb * jzb ping SIG members on wiki access. * jzb open discussion on how Atomic should be listed in bugs.centos.org * jzb to follow up with quaid on getting hardware for bare metal work under *centos.org * jzb get Atomic definition out by end of week to Project Atomic (SIG will want to review) * quaid * jzb to follow up with quaid on getting hardware for bare metal work under *centos.org * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jzb (66) * quaid (19) * bexelbie (17) * walters (16) * jbrooks (5) * centbot (3) * zodbot (3) * scollier (0) * kbsingh (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud & Storage Analyst jzb(a)redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/

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Atomic SIG in bugs.centos.org
by Joe Brockmeier 02 Oct '14

02 Oct '14

Hi - I'd like to get a Atomic Instance SIG Project in bugs.centos.org (similar to Cloud Instance SIG). Thanks, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud & Storage Analyst jzb(a)redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/

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Request to join the Atomic SIG
by Colin Walters 02 Oct '14

02 Oct '14

Hi, I'd like to join the Atomic SIG. I am upstream author of one of the components (rpm-ostree), and have contributed to others like systemd, and SELinux, as well as work on packaging Kubernetes in http://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/walters/atomic-next/. I'm particularly interested in how we maintain the atomic host ostree composes and integrating it with the CentOS infrastructure.

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