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koji-ansible and CentOS Stream
by Ken Dreyer 10 Dec '20

10 Dec '20

Hey folks, I'm not sure where the current CentOS Stream Koji configuration is stored at the moment, but I wanted to link to this project for managing Koji configs with Ansible: https://github.com/ktdreyer/koji-ansible Some teams are using this to manage some large Koji instances inside Red Hat, and it's been working well. It's good for managing initial configurations ("day 1 operations") as well as making changes over time ("day 2 operations"). Like most stuff with Ansible, it makes configurations repeatable and easier to review. As an example, I captured some of our Storage SIG CBS tag and target configurations in Ansible here: https://github.com/ktdreyer/storage-sig-utils/tree/master/ansible It would be great to use koji-ansible as we ramp up CentOS Stream. I'd be happy to help answer any questions about this tool. - Ken

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https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/
by Konstantin Boyandin 10 Dec '20

10 Dec '20

Hello, > The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next > year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat > Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which tracks just ahead of a > current RHEL release. CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end > at the end of 2021. CentOS Stream continues after that date, serving as > the upstream (development) branch of Red Hat Enterprise Linux. > > Meanwhile, we understand many of you are deeply invested in CentOS Linux > 7, and we’ll continue to produce that version through the remainder of > the RHEL 7 life cycle. > https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata/#Life_Cycle_Dates Yeah, deeply, in many a sense. I am a sysadmin, attending to quite a lot of systems, and CentOS was a real blessing. Now, as I see it, CentOS is becoming a sandbox for upcoming RHEL minor releases, so one can bid farewell to free to use, stable, reliable and predictable OS. I am currently in process of upgrading multiple CentOS-driven systems, so this piece of news has become a nasty surprise. Looks like a major decision should be taken right now. Apart from migrating to Oracle Linux (which I wouldn't like at all), and buying RHEL itself, what are other possible alternatives (just curious)? Thanks. Sincerely, Konstantin

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Re: [CentOS-devel] [CentOS] CentOS 8 future
by Matthew Miller 09 Dec '20

09 Dec '20

On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 12:44:36PM -0600, Robert G. (Doc) Savage via CentOS wrote: > > CentOS 8's future is not looking bright. Recently deployed CentOS8 on my > > production workload and now hearing this. What do other folks think > > about this? > Speaking only for myself, I am ready to give up on CentOS (and Red Hat) > entirely. Fedora meets all my clients' needs with none of the chaos. I definitely appreciate the vote of confidence in Fedora! You're not alone in using Fedora in a lot of serious ways. However, I really encourage everyone to give this a chance. This is (post-Fedora) RHEL development opening up in a new way, and CentOS is central to it. That's a good place to be! -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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Re: [CentOS-devel] [CentOS] CentOS 8 future
by Leon Fauster 09 Dec '20

09 Dec '20

Am 09.12.20 um 20:28 schrieb Jon Pruente: > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 5:24 AM Leon Fauster via CentOS > <centos(a)centos.org <mailto:centos@centos.org>> wrote: > > > The relatively fewer that are on CentOS Linux 8 have some > decisions to > > make. The end of 2021 is sooner than they were expecting *but* > there is > > a fully available upgrade path from CentOS Linux 8 to CentOS > Stream 8 > > (IE: not a reinstall), and that will take them to 2024. That's > half of > > the 10 years they might have expected, but it should let them give > > Stream a try and see if it is for them or not. > > If "Stream" is the base for the next RHEL8.x where are the updates > until > 2029 coming from, when CentOS Stream 8 will be shutdown at 2024? > > > I think you've confused some dates, unless you have a link to the > 2024 date for Stream 8. CentOS 7 will continue until 2024. CentOS Stream > 8 doesn't have a clear EOL, but it is presumably at or before the end of > RHEL 8 in 2029. CentOS 8 EOL has been yanked back to 2021. > > https://centos.org/centos-stream/ <https://centos.org/centos-stream/> > > End-of-life > > N/A No, its exactly as I said: https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2020-December/352340.html https://centos.org/distro-faq/#q13-can-i-start-up-a-sig-that-will-maintain-… (full-support -> 2024). -- Leon

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RedHat potential kernel bug 1904817
by H 09 Dec '20

09 Dec '20

I reported a potential kernel bug in the USB subsystem of CentOS 7.9 a couple of days ago, bug 1904817, but accidentally locked myself out of viewing the bug report a few minutes ago... Could someone who has the ear of whoever is running the RedHat Bugzilla system change it back so that I, the reporter, am able to view the report again? Further, I saw that this bug was locked and not accessible to anyone besides the reporter and the cc-list. Not clear why this would be?? Again, I am the reporter. Thank you in advance.

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Re: [CentOS-devel] [CentOS] CentOS 8 future
by Strahil Nikolov 09 Dec '20

09 Dec '20

It seems another Fork will come up... or we switch to openSUSE (at least they haven't mentioned it will become a testing ground for their clients). Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov В 12:44 -0600 на 08.12.2020 (вт), Robert G. (Doc) Savage via CentOS написа: > On Tue, 2020-12-08 at 11:58 -0500, Satish Patel wrote: > > Folks, > > > > What is going on here > > https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/ > > > > CentOS 8's future is not looking bright. Recently deployed CentOS8 > > on > > my production workload and now hearing this. What do other folks > > think > > about this? > > Speaking only for myself, I am ready to give up on CentOS (and Red > Hat) > entirely. Fedora meets all my clients' needs with none of the chaos. > > I shall miss the stability of past CentOS releases, much as I did > those > of Scientific Linux. > > --Doc Savage > Fairview Heights, IL > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS(a)centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

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CentOS 8.3
by Marko Bevc 08 Dec '20

08 Dec '20

Hi. First, great work releasing 8.3 so quicklz this time! Are minimal ISO images coming as well this time? Thanks, Marko

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CentOS 8 future
by Satish Patel 08 Dec '20

08 Dec '20

Folks, What is going on here https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/ CentOS 8's future is not looking bright. Recently deployed CentOS8 on my production workload and now hearing this. What do other folks think about this?

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CentOS 8 (2011) Missing packages
by Peter Georg 08 Dec '20

08 Dec '20

Hi, Thanks for releasing CentOS 8 (2011)! I just tried to update on a test system and noticed two missing/outdated packages: - gcc-toolset-10 is missing. According to the RHEL 8.3 release notes this should be included. According to koji it has already been built. Is it on its way to the mirrors? - libuv-devel in the "devel" repo is outdated. Maybe other packages there are outdated as well, haven't checked yet. Thanks, Peter

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broken: dnf download --source
by Leon Fauster 06 Dec '20

06 Dec '20

I just wonder about # dnf download --source pkgname.rpm Right now its downloading old srpms. # dnf download --source mesa ... mesa-18.3.1-5.el8_0.src.rpm but "installed" are packages based on # rpm -qa --qf '%{SOURCERPM}\n'|grep mesa |head -1 mesa-19.3.4-2.el8.src.rpm Is this dnf feature broken? -- Thanks, Leon

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