August 2021 - devel - lists.centos.org

anaconda dependency calculation?
by Nicholas Byrne 04 Aug '25

04 Aug '25

Hi all, I'm trying to find a tool that calculates all dependencies for a specific package or group of packages for use with CentOS 5 (beta) with the intention of putting together a custom single CD build of CentOS 5. With CentOS 4 i used a python script that used the hdrlist module to find all dependencies which borrowed code from a number of sources. I've looked at yumdownloader and how it checks dependencies (using the --resolve option) but if i pass it the list of packages defined in say the Base and the Core yum groups which generally form an absolute minimal install i end up with about 200 packages. If i do a custom install (using beta 1 disks) and deselect everything i end up with over 300 packages. So i'm guessing anaconda calculates dependencies in a slightly different way, can anyone point me to files/code where i should be looking to find out? Thanks very much in advance for help Nick This e-mail is the property of Quadriga Worldwide Ltd, intended for the addressee only and confidential. Any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message or any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from Quadriga may be monitored. Quadriga cannot guarantee any message delivery method is secure or error-free. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. We do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions in this message and/or attachment that arise as a result of transmission. You should carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Quadriga.

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forums + portal for {lang}.centos.org sites
by Karanbir Singh 16 Aug '24

16 Aug '24

Hi, Earlier in the evening today Ralph, Fabian and I had a chat about the present state of the language subsites. This email sort of summarises the main issue ( s/w ). We seem to have run into a slight technical hitch with punbb/fluxbb. They dont support LDAP as a backend. And we had decided a few months back that all new rollouts must have ldap backend so we can rollin CentOS-DS / openldap based backend. So we need to look at alternatives, and since the primary focus of these international sites is going be forums : Here is a shortlist ( if there is anything else that people are aware of, please add to this list ) - phpBB - SMF - Fudforum - phorum - fluxbb Requirements: - Must be able to scale ( couple of hundred thousand msgs ) - Must be able to handle ldap auth ( if it cant, whats involved in writing the ldap-auth portion ) - Must address the specific requirements raised by the present www.centos.org forum users ( Can you please fill this section in ? ) - Must support all languages we need ( pure utf8 support would be good ) - Secure - Skin'able Nice to have: - Capable of running multiple instances from a single deployment - responsive community :D Things we will need to do: - Decide on what s/w to use. - Give the ArtWork people enough time to get the look & feel sorted. - Migrate newbb forums from www.centos.org to $system ( hey, english is a language too :D ). - Migrate fr.centos.org into the final s/w - setup {de/es/ja/it/pt_br}.centos.org Actions: Ralph and Fabian are going to work on setting up a test ldap server, once that is online we will then start by installing into our test-vm-farm the various s/w to eval them. If anyone would like to help, please feel free to jump right in. I'll setup a wiki page for this issue, which might be a good place to track progress. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219@icq

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Proposal: CentOS Public Board Meetings
by Rich Bowen 07 Jan '23

07 Jan '23

In January of 2021, the CentOS Board of Directors opened our monthly meetings to all SIG chairs, in a first step towards more transparent governance. We wanted to see how the larger audience changed the meeting dynamics, if at all, as well as welcoming a broader pool of voices. We are now ready for the second part of this process. Starting in the August meeting, we will be inviting the entire CentOS community to attend these meetings. Due to the nature of the Internet, we won’t be simply publishing the meeting URL, as this often leads to disruptive behavior in meetings, as I am sure many of you have experienced. Rather, in the week before the meeting, we’ll send, to this list, a way to request an invitation to the meeting. In this way, we hope to limit the incidence of such disruptions, while also making the meeting available to anyone who wishes to attend. We will be working on the rules of engagement for these meetings, but they will be, at minimum: * Wait to be recognized by the Chair before speaking * Respect the Chair when told your time to speak is over - this will allow us to remain on agenda, and complete the meetings in the allotted time * In the event that there are Board-confidential topics, these will be put at the end of the meeting, in Executive Session, and guests will be asked to leave. We hope to minimize these items, but they do sometimes happen. The most common scenarios in which this may happen are personnel issues, or information that Red Hat wishes to share with the Board, but is not yet public. * Muting of participants, or, in extreme situations, ejection from the meeting, is at the sole discretion of the Chair. * Meetings will be recorded, and published to YouTube (possibly with edits/redactions, as approved by the Directors). Thus, by joining the meeting you consent to have your presence at the meeting, and anything you say during the meeting, made public. Because there will seldom be time for Q&A during the meeting itself, we plan to add a post-meeting IRC office hours session for followup questions. This will probably be scheduled for a week after the board meeting, to allow time to publish meeting minutes We welcome your comments about the above proposal, and thank you all for your patience as we implement these changes to our governance process.

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Pre-release version of CentOS Stream 9.
by Thomas Stephen Lee 16 Sep '21

16 Sep '21

Hi, How do we go about installing a pre-release version of CentOS Stream 9 ? Thanks --- Lee

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Proposal: Add pkg- prefix to package names in CentOS dist-git
by Florian Weimer 06 Sep '21

06 Sep '21

Gitlab cannot support an undocumented set of Git repository names. Currently, this list appears to contain at least these names: badges blame blob builds commits create create_dir edit files find_file new preview raw refs tree update wikis There may be additional constraints for: environments gitlab-lfs info We have at least one collision today, tree. One way to avoid these problems is to prefix all package names with “pkg-”. This way, future collisions become extremely unlikely, at the cost of a one-time large rename. The alternative would be to main an exception mechanism for colliding package names such as “tree”. This has been the current approach, but as far as I can tell, it is not working. Implementing this change depends on the completion of the package removal process because it does not appear worthwhile to rename packages which no longer exist in the distribution. Thanks, Florian

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GNOME crashes in Wayland whenever I try to move a file in Nautilus
by Steven R 01 Sep '21

01 Sep '21

This behavior only started after this morning's pile of updates. I run GNOME with Wayland, and whenever I try to move a file in Nautilus, the GNOME session crashes, and I'm thrown into a console. I tried an older kernel, and the behavior is the same. This only happens in Wayland. In an X11 session, everything works, so the workaround is to run X11. I saw that gnome-shell was one of the packages upgraded today. Is that where a bug should be filed? I don't know where to look for this in the logs.

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CentOS Stream 9 timetable
by Steven Rosenberg 30 Aug '21

30 Aug '21

Can anybody provide a rough estimate on a release (Alpha, Beta, RC, etc) of CentOS Stream 9 -- the point where we can install and then update from the repo?

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CFP for October Dojo ends soon
by Rich Bowen 24 Aug '21

24 Aug '21

The Call for Presentations for the October CentOS Dojo closes next weekend - September 6th, 00:01 UTC. FYI: As it currently stands, we have enough content for just one day, and so will probably cancel day two of the event. Unless ... more of you are interested in presenting on your work in and around CentOS. We want to hear from the SIGs about what they're working on. We want to hear from CPE and the CentOS Stream crew about what's coming in the months and years ahead. So, don't wait. Get your talk proposals in soon! --Rich

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Is there any way to follow errata for Stream 8?
by Steven Rosenberg 22 Aug '21

22 Aug '21

How do I follow errata on patches to Stream 8?

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freetype package missed in repo
by Leon Fauster 20 Aug '21

20 Aug '21

I wonder why this package not available anymore? # LANG=C yum reinstall freetype Last metadata expiration check: 1:04:59 ago on Wed Aug 4 00:38:21 2021. Installed package freetype-2.9.1-5.el8.x86_64 (from baseos) not available. Error: No packages marked for reinstall. Any clues? -- Thx Leon

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c8-plus repo also ...
by Leon Fauster 19 Aug '21

19 Aug '21

With the recent thunderbird update (also provided via c8-plus repo), I wonder what will happen with this repo (maybe already answered). Will it also go EOL at the end of the year? -- Leon

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CentOS Board town hall meeting, Aug 18, 1400 UTC
by Rich Bowen 18 Aug '21

18 Aug '21

In our ongoing effort to make CentOS governance more open and transparent, we would like to invite all of you to an open Q&A, "town hall" style meeting with some members of the CentOS Board of directors, as a followup to our recent board of directors meeting. This meeting will happen in #centos-meeting, on the Libera.chat IRC network, at 1400 UTC `date -d '1400 UTC'` <-- Display this time in your local time zone. We hope to have published the minutes of the August Board meeting by that time. All topics relating to the CentOS project are welcome. We remind you that interactions on #centos-devel (and other CentOS IRC channels) are expected to occur according to the guidelines laid out in the CentOS Code of Conduct - https://www.centos.org/code-of-conduct/ If you would like to submit comments/questions without being on the record, you are welcome to submit those comments/questions anonymously here: https://forms.gle/oUUfWFPU8gLMFYp8A , and I will read those in the meeting.

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[infra] : Planned outage : CI environment
by Fabian Arrotin 17 Aug '21

17 Aug '21

Due to a previous hardware issue (https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/ci-users/2020-October/002124.html) we had a workaround in place that is still in place but is actually blocking a reorg of the infra used behind ci.centos.org. We are announcing a maintenance window that will permit us to move network switches, and reconfigure the network properly , allowing also us to redeploy/load balance our workload across remaining available infrastructure. Migration is scheduled for """"Tuesday August 17th, 1:00 pm UTC time"""". You can convert to local time with $(date -d '2021-08-17 13:00 UTC') The expected "downtime" is estimated to ~60 minutes , time needed to migrate services, reconfigure network switch and restart the nodes connected to new network switch. Impacted services in CI env: - duffy API (unavailable during the move to other hypervisor, so normally unavailable for ~10min) : no way to request a duffy node for bare-metal tests - jenkins (aka ci.centos.org) and all agents connected to it - cloud.cico (opennebula infra used to provide Virtual Machines for CI tenants) Thanks for your comprehending and patience. on behalf of the Infra team, -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | twitter: @arrfab

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oath-toolkit in c9s-pending
by Ken Dreyer 11 Aug '21

11 Aug '21

Is there some way I can find out more about why people untag builds from c9s-pending? For example, today jantill untagged oath-toolkit-2.6.6-2.el9 from c9s-pending, but "pskctool" and "oathtool" are still present in https://gitlab.com/redhat/centos-stream/release-engineering/pungi-centos/-/… The reason I care about oath-toolkit is that Ceph requires liboath-devel, and now I'm not sure what version is going to ship in CentOS 9 Stream. - Ken

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Community Platform Engineering Team July Report
by Aoife Moloney 10 Aug '21

10 Aug '21

Hi all, Here is a quick snapshot of some of the work delivered by the Community Platform Engineering team during the month of July. If you have trouble reading this in email format, feel free to visit the hackmd link where it is published https://hackmd.io/@Ap8CkTlpSfmjb44UGV-kWA/rkW5c8W1t ## Fedora ### Infrastructure & Release Engineering * Mass rebuild completed * Additional power8 boxes installed in one of the datacentres ### Scheduled Q3 Projects #### Datanomer/Datagrepper **About** These apps are currently used to retrieve historical information about messages on the fedmsg bus and add them to a postgresql database. Datanomer reads-in messages from the bus and stores them in the database and Datagrepper exposes the messages in the database via an API with different filtering capacities. We want to upgrade these applications to use fedora-messaging and increase the performance of the applications for users. Work Tracker: https://github.com/orgs/fedora-infra/projects/10 **Delivered in July** * Converted datanomer.consumer to use fedora-messaging * Timescaledb is deployed in staging * Vagrant setup created to help new contributors hack on datagrepper easier #### Metrics for Apps on Openshift **About** The project team will deliver on the installation of newest Openshift in Fedora infra to be then configured with prometheus so applications can be hooked into this service and can be monitored and metricized through this tech stack for more comprehensive understanding of app behaviour, performance and troubleshooting. Work Tracker: https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/metrics-for-apps/boards/metrics-for-apps **Delivered in July** * Bootstrap Openshift Install * Staging cluster of Openshift 4 up #### DNF Counting Project **About**: The DNF counting project will enhance the currently existing program that captures a ‘countme’ value from computers running Fedora weekly. There are multiple scripts running from a server which parses the data into a csv file for graphing and displaying trends that had been misbehaving a lot. This program gives a good indication for how many computers use fedora so the project team will work on improving these scripts and the program overall to make it a more reliable and maintainable solution. Work Tracker: https://pagure.io/mirrors-countme/boards/DNF%20Counting%20Initiative **Delivered in July**: * Zuul CI testing enabled * Added F34 stats * Improved the syncHttpLogs script so that it retries on failure and has a timeout and no longer hangs quietly for long periods of time ## CentOS ### Infrastructure & Release Engineering https://pagure.io/centos-infra/issues * New Automotive SIG set up complete * New Infra SIG member added - Mark O'Brien (IRC:mobrien) ### CentOS Linux * Kmod secure boot signing is now in place ### CentOS Stream #### Stream 8 * Legacy composeinfo is now being generated for every compose * Kernel-4.18.0-326.el8 has been exported to git.centos.org and pushed to the mirrors for CentOS Stream 8 #### Stream 9 * Daily composes now being generated for Stream 9 * Stream 9 composes now does ec2 and generic qcow2 images * Tooling identified for package signing automation Thank you for your continued support and collaboration with our team across all communities, the work we achieve is not possible without that, and I look forward to updating you all on what we have accomplished at the end of August! Kindest regards & on behalf of the CPE team, Aoife -- Aoife Moloney Product Owner Community Platform Engineering Team Red Hat EMEA Communications House Cork Road Waterford

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python3-virtualenv missing from CentOS Stream 9
by Ken Dreyer 08 Aug '21

08 Aug '21

python3-virtualenv is not in the CentOS Stream 9 composes. It's surprising to me because https://kojihub.stream.centos.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=6539 has a recent changelog entry "Rebuilt for RHEL 9 BETA on Apr 15th 2021. Related: rhbz#1947937". Can we add this to CentOS Stream 9 comps?

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CS9 buildroots in CBS for SIGs
by Alfredo Moralejo Alonso 06 Aug '21

06 Aug '21

Hi, With regards to the update about the plans for CentOS Stream 9 in [1], when should SIGs expect availability of CS9 buildroots in CBS and be able to create c9 branches in git.centos.org?, once we have signed packages or after getting them published in mirrors? Best regards, Alfredo [1] https://blog.centos.org/2021/07/centos-community-newsletter-july-2021/

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subversion / CS8 update / status of workflow
by Leon Fauster 05 Aug '21

05 Aug '21

Hi, inspired by a different thread here, I did a dnf distro-sync on a CS8 node and noticed that subversion would be downgraded: from subversion-1.10.2-4.module_el8.3.0+703+ba2f61b7 to subversion-1.10.2-3.module_el8.3.0+393+21cd8ae8 Coming from C8 and swapping the repos to CS8 leads to this situation (especially when doing upgrade instead of distro-sync) but that is not my point. The above downgrade path recovered that subversion in CS8 still does not have # rpm -q --changelog subversion-1.10.2-4.module_el8.3.0+703+ba2f61b7.x86_64 | head -3 * Mi Feb 10 2021 Joe Orton <jorton(a)redhat.com> - 1.10.2-4 - add security fix for CVE-2020-17525 Such question comes here and there again and again. How does the package update process in CS8 looks like? Is the process mature, any glitches. This subversion update already exists in C8 since February. Why is it not incorporated into CS8? Would CentOS Stream only be promoted as "upstream" development platform, then ... but its also promoted as successor of CentOS Linux for people with production fleeds. I do not argue that C8S should be like C8 (in a wider sense) but at least it should have some basal property (like updates are at most after 1 or 2 month all there or so ...). Any insight about the goal of the current process? Any wiki or doc page for that? Some transparency would be my main goal, to have base for decisions ... I'd really appreciate any feedback. Thanks, Leon

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glibc with clone3 in the CentOS 9 buildroot
by Florian Weimer 05 Aug '21

05 Aug '21

We have merged a toolchain update which brings in a glibc build very close to glibc 2.34 upstream release. This build starts using clone3 for creating threads. This may require browser and container tools updates which adjust seccomp filters. clone3 kernel support is NOT required, but a proper “system call not supported” error (ENOSYS, like older kernels report without seccomp filters) or a working clone3 system call is now necessary. Thanks, Florian

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RHEL build roots in CBS
by Jack Aboutboul 05 Aug '21

05 Aug '21

Hello All, I’ve opened an issue in the centos-infra pagure (https://pagure.io/centos-infra/issue/400) regrading getting RHEL buildroots in CBS. If you think your SIG would benefit from this, would you mind chiming in and registering your interest? I am sure that there are already several SIGs that this can be of use to and it would help the community at large. Thanks, Jack

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x509watch / private sub directory
by Leon Fauster 03 Aug '21

03 Aug '21

$ curl https://src.fedoraproject.org/_dg/bzoverrides/rpms/x509watch { "epel_assignee": "robert", "fedora_assignee": "robert" } Hi Robert, I just wanted to ping you regarding https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1964728 I'd really appreciate any feedback. Thanks. -- Leon

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CPE Feedback Survey
by Ant Carroll 03 Aug '21

03 Aug '21

Hey folks, Over the last several months we’ve been trying to continue our improvements with how we interact and share information with you all based on the feedback of the last surveys. From the blog posts, to mails and how we work on the tickets you send us. Here is a link to our very short survey where you can give us that feedback: https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/5 If you could take the time (5mins max) to complete it for us it would be massively appreciated as always. We're also moving the cadence of this to once every 6 months. The shorter survey times at the start were great to give us that initial burst of improvements to work on, and the increases in happiness we've seen from you reflect the work the team has done. Hope to see some of you at Nest, Ant -- Ant Carroll Associate Manager, Software Engineering Red Hat Waterford <http://www.redhat.com> Communications House Cork Road, Waterford City ancarrol(a)redhat.com M: +353876213163 IM: ancarrol @redhatjobs <https://twitter.com/redhatjobs> redhatjobs <https://www.facebook.com/redhatjobs> @redhatjobs <https://instagram.com/redhatjobs> <https://www.redhat.com/>

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