devel November 2022

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ksplice and CentOS
by Karanbir Singh 25 Sep '25

25 Sep '25

hi guys, lots of people on this list are keen on contributing to the CentOS effort - and one place where we could, as a group of people, make a massive difference is being able to deliver a ksplice upgrade model. A couple of people have started in silo's to try and get something together but I feel it might be a good time to try and see if we can do somethng as a group. Do we have people on the list who find the idea of rebootless kernel upgrades interesting ? Is there some desire to try and make that happen within the CentOS Ecosystem ? - KB

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anaconda dependency calculation?
by Nicholas Byrne 04 Aug '25

04 Aug '25

Hi all, I'm trying to find a tool that calculates all dependencies for a specific package or group of packages for use with CentOS 5 (beta) with the intention of putting together a custom single CD build of CentOS 5. With CentOS 4 i used a python script that used the hdrlist module to find all dependencies which borrowed code from a number of sources. I've looked at yumdownloader and how it checks dependencies (using the --resolve option) but if i pass it the list of packages defined in say the Base and the Core yum groups which generally form an absolute minimal install i end up with about 200 packages. If i do a custom install (using beta 1 disks) and deselect everything i end up with over 300 packages. So i'm guessing anaconda calculates dependencies in a slightly different way, can anyone point me to files/code where i should be looking to find out? Thanks very much in advance for help Nick This e-mail is the property of Quadriga Worldwide Ltd, intended for the addressee only and confidential. Any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message or any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from Quadriga may be monitored. Quadriga cannot guarantee any message delivery method is secure or error-free. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. We do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions in this message and/or attachment that arise as a result of transmission. You should carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Quadriga.

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forums + portal for {lang}.centos.org sites
by Karanbir Singh 16 Aug '24

16 Aug '24

Hi, Earlier in the evening today Ralph, Fabian and I had a chat about the present state of the language subsites. This email sort of summarises the main issue ( s/w ). We seem to have run into a slight technical hitch with punbb/fluxbb. They dont support LDAP as a backend. And we had decided a few months back that all new rollouts must have ldap backend so we can rollin CentOS-DS / openldap based backend. So we need to look at alternatives, and since the primary focus of these international sites is going be forums : Here is a shortlist ( if there is anything else that people are aware of, please add to this list ) - phpBB - SMF - Fudforum - phorum - fluxbb Requirements: - Must be able to scale ( couple of hundred thousand msgs ) - Must be able to handle ldap auth ( if it cant, whats involved in writing the ldap-auth portion ) - Must address the specific requirements raised by the present www.centos.org forum users ( Can you please fill this section in ? ) - Must support all languages we need ( pure utf8 support would be good ) - Secure - Skin'able Nice to have: - Capable of running multiple instances from a single deployment - responsive community :D Things we will need to do: - Decide on what s/w to use. - Give the ArtWork people enough time to get the look & feel sorted. - Migrate newbb forums from www.centos.org to $system ( hey, english is a language too :D ). - Migrate fr.centos.org into the final s/w - setup {de/es/ja/it/pt_br}.centos.org Actions: Ralph and Fabian are going to work on setting up a test ldap server, once that is online we will then start by installing into our test-vm-farm the various s/w to eval them. If anyone would like to help, please feel free to jump right in. I'll setup a wiki page for this issue, which might be a good place to track progress. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219@icq

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Few questions on cloud images
by Pino Toscano 06 Jun '23

06 Jun '23

Hello, I have few questions related to the cloud images provides for c8s and c9s, i.e.: - https://cloud.centos.org/centos/8-stream/x86_64/images/ - https://cloud.centos.org/centos/9-stream/x86_64/images/ 1) I see the c9s images are regularly updated, while the c8s images not; is this wanted, or simply a mistake/miss somewhere? If so, will they be kept up-to-date just like the c9s images? 2) are the Vagrant images there officially supported? Let's say you use one, and find a bug; then check on a "classic" installation (baremetal/VM), and the bug isn't there; can users report problems in those cases? 3) would it be possible to have either unversioned or "-latest" symlinks for the latest versions of all the files (i.e. images, checksums, etc)? This way, it will be much easier for users to fetch the latest versions with no need to change URLs frequently. Of course, the assumption is that users of this are always willing to use the latest version. Thanks! -- Pino Toscano

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Proposal: CentOS Public Board Meetings
by Rich Bowen 07 Jan '23

07 Jan '23

In January of 2021, the CentOS Board of Directors opened our monthly meetings to all SIG chairs, in a first step towards more transparent governance. We wanted to see how the larger audience changed the meeting dynamics, if at all, as well as welcoming a broader pool of voices. We are now ready for the second part of this process. Starting in the August meeting, we will be inviting the entire CentOS community to attend these meetings. Due to the nature of the Internet, we won’t be simply publishing the meeting URL, as this often leads to disruptive behavior in meetings, as I am sure many of you have experienced. Rather, in the week before the meeting, we’ll send, to this list, a way to request an invitation to the meeting. In this way, we hope to limit the incidence of such disruptions, while also making the meeting available to anyone who wishes to attend. We will be working on the rules of engagement for these meetings, but they will be, at minimum: * Wait to be recognized by the Chair before speaking * Respect the Chair when told your time to speak is over - this will allow us to remain on agenda, and complete the meetings in the allotted time * In the event that there are Board-confidential topics, these will be put at the end of the meeting, in Executive Session, and guests will be asked to leave. We hope to minimize these items, but they do sometimes happen. The most common scenarios in which this may happen are personnel issues, or information that Red Hat wishes to share with the Board, but is not yet public. * Muting of participants, or, in extreme situations, ejection from the meeting, is at the sole discretion of the Chair. * Meetings will be recorded, and published to YouTube (possibly with edits/redactions, as approved by the Directors). Thus, by joining the meeting you consent to have your presence at the meeting, and anything you say during the meeting, made public. Because there will seldom be time for Q&A during the meeting itself, we plan to add a post-meeting IRC office hours session for followup questions. This will probably be scheduled for a week after the board meeting, to allow time to publish meeting minutes We welcome your comments about the above proposal, and thank you all for your patience as we implement these changes to our governance process.

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FreeIPA / Samba / SSSD - new packages same problems
by lejeczek 21 Dec '22

21 Dec '22

Hi gents. It seems this has been a routine - each time when either sssd or Samba or FreeIPA gets new releases (with freeIPA deployed) there will be 'rpm' conflicts: Problem 1: package sssd-common-pac-2.7.3-5.el8.x86_64 requires libndr.so.2()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed - package sssd-common-pac-2.7.3-5.el8.x86_64 requires libndr.so.2(NDR_0.0.1)(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed - cannot install both samba-client-libs-4.17.2-2.el8.x86_64 and samba-client-libs-4.16.4-2.el8.x86_64 - cannot install both samba-client-libs-4.17.2-2.el8.x86_64 and samba-client-libs-4.15.3-0.el8.x86_64 - cannot install both samba-client-libs-4.17.2-2.el8.x86_64 and samba-client-libs-4.15.4-0.el8.x86_64 - cannot install both samba-client-libs-4.17.2-2.el8.x86_64 and samba-client-libs-4.15.5-0.el8.x86_64 - cannot install both samba-client-libs-4.17.2-2.el8.x86_64 and samba-client-libs-4.15.5-3.el8.x86_64 - cannot install both samba-client-libs-4.17.2-2.el8.x86_64 and samba-client-libs-4.15.5-4.el8.x86_64 - cannot install both samba-client-libs-4.17.2-2.el8.x86_64 and samba-client-libs-4.15.5-5.el8.x86_64 - cannot install both samba-client-libs-4.17.2-2.el8.x86_64 and samba-client-libs-4.15.5-8.el8.x86_64 - cannot install both samba-client-libs-4.17.2-2.el8.x86_64 and samba-client-libs-4.16.1-0.el8.x86_64 - cannot install both samba-client-libs-4.17.2-2.el8.x86_64 and samba-client-libs-4.16.2-1.el8.x86_64 - cannot install both samba-client-libs-4.17.2-2.el8.x86_64 and samba-client-libs-4.16.4-1.el8.x86_64 - cannot install the best update candidate for package sssd-common-pac-2.7.3-4.el8.x86_64 - cannot install the best update candidate for package samba-client-libs-4.16.4-2.el8.x86_64 Problem 2: package sssd-idp-2.7.3-4.el8.x86_64 requires sssd-common = 2.7.3-4.el8, but none of the providers can be installed - package libsss_autofs-2.7.3-5.el8.x86_64 conflicts with sssd-common < 2.7.3-5.el8 provided by sssd-common-2.7.3-4.el8.x86_64 - cannot install the best update candidate for package sssd-idp-2.7.3-4.el8.x86_64 - cannot install the best update candidate for package libsss_autofs-2.7.3-4.el8.x86_64 Problem 3: package sssd-common-pac-2.7.3-5.el8.x86_64 requires libndr.so.2()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed - package sssd-common-pac-2.7.3-5.el8.x86_64 requires libndr.so.2(NDR_0.0.1)(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed Or it's just me? many thanks, L.

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dnf stuff has broken dependencies
by Leon Fauster 19 Dec '22

19 Dec '22

FYI: The samba issue is gone but following is still an issue: # LANG=C yum update Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:18 ago on Fri Nov 25 23:48:00 2022. Dependencies resolved. Problem 1: package python3-dnf-plugin-modulesync-4.0.21-14.1.el8.noarch requires python3-dnf-plugins-core = 4.0.21-14.1.el8, but none of the providers can be installed - cannot install both python3-dnf-plugins-core-4.0.21-16.el8.noarch and python3-dnf-plugins-core-4.0.21-14.1.el8.noarch - cannot install the best update candidate for package python3-dnf-plugins-core-4.0.21-14.1.el8.noarch - cannot install the best update candidate for package python3-dnf-plugin-modulesync-4.0.21-14.1.el8.noarch Problem 2: problem with installed package python3-dnf-plugin-modulesync-4.0.21-14.1.el8.noarch - package python3-dnf-plugin-modulesync-4.0.21-14.1.el8.noarch requires python3-dnf-plugins-core = 4.0.21-14.1.el8, but none of the providers can be installed - cannot install both python3-dnf-plugins-core-4.0.21-16.el8.noarch and python3-dnf-plugins-core-4.0.21-14.1.el8.noarch - package dnf-plugins-core-4.0.21-16.el8.noarch requires python3-dnf-plugins-core = 4.0.21-16.el8, but none of the providers can be installed - cannot install the best update candidate for package dnf-plugins-core-4.0.21-14.1.el8.noarch ============================================================================================================================================================================= Package Architecture Version Repository Size ============================================================================================================================================================================= Skipping packages with conflicts: (add '--best --allowerasing' to command line to force their upgrade): python3-dnf-plugins-core noarch 4.0.21-16.el8 baseos 258 k Skipping packages with broken dependencies: dnf-plugins-core noarch 4.0.21-16.el8 baseos 75 k Transaction Summary ============================================================================================================================================================================= Skip 2 Packages Nothing to do. Complete! -- Leon

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Fwd: [CentOS] CentOS 7: Missing Thunderbird Updates
by Chris Schanzle 16 Dec '22

16 Dec '22

[No response on CentOS list, so trying CentOS-devel.] -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [CentOS] CentOS 7: Missing Thunderbird Updates Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 15:33:56 -0500 From: Chris Schanzle via CentOS <centos(a)centos.org> Reply-To: Chris Schanzle <christopher.schanzle(a)nist.gov>, CentOS mailing list <centos(a)centos.org> To: CentOS mailing list <centos(a)centos.org> Hi, Looks like CentOS 7 hasn't shipped Thunderbird updates for a while. The latest I see in repos is: Sep 1 15:22 thunderbird-91.13.0-1.el7.centos.x86_64.rpm Perusing through the RHEL announcements, that was from the RHSA-2022:6169-01 on 2022-08-24. Seems none of the 102.x versions have shipped: 2022-09-26 RHSA-2022:6710-01 thunderbird-102.3.0-3.el7_9.x86_64.rpm 2022-10-18 RHSA-2022:6998-01 thunderbird-102.3.0-4.el7_9.x86_64.rpm 2022-10-25 RHSA-2022:7184-01 thunderbird-102.4.0-1.el7_9.x86_64.rpm And for completeness, just announced today: 2022-11-21 RHSA-2022:8555-01 thunderbird-102.5.0-2.el7_9.x86_64.rpm Thanks in advance for efforts to find and clear the blockage!

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dnf-makecache.service failing every few days and dnf-automatic.service samba sssd issues (again).
by Jelle de Jong 06 Dec '22

06 Dec '22

Hello everybody, 1. I got many systems with failing dnf-makecache.service because some mirror/repo is tried once and fails. Is there an option to make dnf more reliable, to try the mirror url a few times and check its availability? man yum.conf does not # cat /etc/yum.conf [main] gpgcheck=1 installonly_limit=3 clean_requirements_on_remove=True best=True skip_if_unavailable=False ExecStart=/usr/bin/dnf makecache --timer 2. I saw in the mailing list the messages about samba sssd dependency issues. I got lots of servers failing my dnf-automatic because of this when can I expect a resolution for this? Kind regards, Jelle

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Meson rebase in RHEL 9.2 (packages might start to FTBFS)
by Tomáš Popela 29 Nov '22

29 Nov '22

Hi everyone, We are going to rebase Meson from 0.58.2 to 0.63.3, see the bug[0] and merge request[1]. Generally this would mean a lot of breakages, but we've changed/downgraded some errors to warnings - see the description in the MR or text inside the SPEC file for more information. We've used the Mass Prebuild[2] tool to identify the possible breakages in RHEL and fix them in advance[3-5]. We will merge the MR and do the builds on Monday, December 5. [0] - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2022729 [1] - https://gitlab.com/redhat/centos-stream/rpms/meson/-/merge_requests/6 [2] - https://gitlab.com/fedora/packager-tools/mass-prebuild [3] - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2140107 - gegl04 [4] - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2140108 - gobject-introspection [5] - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2140541 - shared-mime-info Regards, Tom -- Tomáš Popela Desktop and Desktop Applications Subsystems Product Owner Display Systems Red Hat

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