For those of you who want to use KDE on RHEL9 Beta, or CentOS Stream 9, it
is available via EPEL. It is currently plasma 5.23.5, kf5 5.90.0, qt5
5.15.2. There might be an update before RHEL 9.0 is released.
There is currently a critical selinux bug[1] that prevents KDE from
starting. That is the reason I have not sent this out earlier. When that
get's fixed, I'll update these instructions.
Note: All these steps should be done as sudo or root.
Step 0 - Manually fix selinux bug
setsebool -P selinuxuser_execmod 1
Step 1 - Enable CRB and Install epel-release [2]
# RHEL 9 Beta
subscription-manager repos --enable
codeready-builder-beta-for-rhel-9-$(arch)-rpms
dnf install
https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/epel-release-latest-9.noarch.rpm
# CentOS Stream 9
dnf config-manager --set-enabled crb
dnf install epel-release epel-next-release
Step 2 - Install KDE
dnf group install "KDE Plasma Workspaces"
or
dnf group install kde-desktop
Step 2.a - (Optional) Install other kde groups
dnf group install kde-media
dnf group install kde-apps
dnf install okular
Step 2.b - (Optional) Set sddm as desktop manager
dnf install sddm\* -y
systemctl enable sddm -f
Step 3 - Ensure you boot into graphical mode
systemctl set-default graphical.target
Step 4 - Reboot and enjoy
It is recommended that you log into the Plasma (X11) vs Plasma (Wayland).
There are several non-critical wayland bugs. These bugs are being
addressed but aren't expected to be fixed until the RHEL 9.1 timeframe.
Troy Dawson
[1] - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2058657
[2] - https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/epel/#_el9
Hi Folks,
We have a migration in progress for the CentOS Stream 9 environment
today. This will affect access to kojihub.stream.centos.org while we
work on this. I'll post a note here when our outage is clear.
Mirror content will remain available, composes.stream.centos.org may
be affected periodically throughout the day.
--Brian
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 2:59 PM Dan Čermák
<dan.cermak(a)cgc-instruments.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Adam,
>
> Adam Williamson <adamwill(a)fedoraproject.org> writes:
>
> > snip
>
> > That could obviously have pretty significant consequences for Fedora.
> > Bugzilla isn't only an issue tracker for Fedora; we run some
> > significant processes through it, notably the Change process, the
> > blocker/FE bug process, and the prioritized bug process. In A World
> > Without Bugzilla all of those would need adapting (and their
> > documentation updating). There's fairly tight integration between Bodhi
> > and Bugzilla, which would need to be redesigned. Those are just things
> > I can think of off the top of my head. There are also a couple of
> > decades worth of internet links to Fedora issues on RH Bugzilla, of
> > course.
> >
> > I guess the two big choices for Fedora if RH said "we're not
> > maintaining Bugzilla any more" would be 1) take over maintaining
> > Bugzilla or 2) switch to something else. 1) would probably be the path
> > of least resistance, I guess.
>
> Short term it is the path of the least resistance, but at least what
> I've heard from $dayjob, maintaining a Bugzilla instance is no easy
> task, as they are often customized (via non-upstream patches) and this
> all needs to be maintained. I cannot speak for our infra team, but I
> really don't know if they'd like yet another huge service, because this
> effectively means they'd have to take over maintenance of
> bugzilla.redhat.com...
>
> >
> > This does also kinda lead to a larger question for me, trying to wear
> > both Red Hat and Fedora hats at the same time[0]. I wonder if we're
> > kind of lacking a...mechanism, for want of a better word, to handle the
> > *generic* case here. Let's rewind to Ye Olde Days, when "the Fedora
> > project" first started. At that point Fedora and Red Hat shared a lot
> > of tooling and infrastructure, and this was useful to both sides in
> > many ways; it saves on development costs and it makes it easy for
> > people to work in both worlds. With my Red Hat on, I think I'm allowed
> > to say that internally we often talk about this being desirable -
> > having consistency between how X is done in Fedora and how it's done
> > for RHEL - and it obviously has benefits to Fedora too (it means we
> > don't have to find the resources to do that same work at Fedora level).
> >
> > However, situations like this make me wonder if we might have an issue
> > with keeping shared infra/tooling where it's desirable. It seems like
> > this is a decision/conversation that's been happening within RH, about
> > what makes sense for RH in terms of RHEL development. AFAIK this is the
> > first time it's been formally talked about in a Fedora context, and the
> > messaging is "RH has already decided to stop using Bugzilla for RHEL
> > after 9". In other words, RH has decided on its own to move away from
> > something that is part of the shared RH/Fedora "heritage way of doing
> > things".
> >
> > I'm not saying that's wrong, but as I said it does make me wonder
> > whether, if both sides do find shared tooling/approaches beneficial, we
> > might want to approach this kind of potential change differently in
> > future. Otherwise it does seem like we could sort of gradually drift
> > apart, with no explicit intention to do so, and lose the benefits of
> > shared tooling and process. Unless the ultimate outcome of this is
> > "Fedora adopts issues.redhat.com for bug tracking" - which would be a
> > possibility, but doesn't seem like a certainty - the result will be
> > that we go from having a shared bug tracker, with the benefits of
> > shared maintenance and being able to easily clone or reference bugs
> > between Fedora and RHEL, to each maintaining our own bug tracker and
> > not having those benefits.
> >
> > Of course, there would be sensitivities in developing such a process -
> > it could look a lot like Red Hat telling Fedora how to do stuff, which
> > I think isn't exactly the relationship we want to have. But at the same
> > time I'm not sure "Red Hat or Fedora just deciding unilaterally to stop
> > using this thing they'd previously both used" is always the best choice
> > either.
>
> No, certainly not. I think it would have been nice if the tooling
> discussion happened before RH decided to drop Bugzilla so that we can
> all use a common tooling. However, I also know that in a business
RHEL is choosing not to use Bugzilla for future versions of RHEL. I
need to be clear in wording there, because Red Hat is a company, RHEL
is one of its products, and we're only talking about newer versions of
that product. I am not aware of any plans for Red Hat to drop
Bugzilla. I am aware of plans for newer versions of RHEL to no longer
use Bugzilla.
> sometimes reaching such a consensus is everything but easy. It would
> have been nice if someone at least tried though.
Tried what, to be precise? If you mean try to find common tooling
between Fedora and RHEL, well we have off and on for years. Several
things work. Many didn't.
If you mean try to use bugzilla, we've been trying for the last 5
years internally to make it work in conjunction with
issues.redhat.com. It's not working and it's time to consolidate to a
single tool. That decision has no direct bearing on Fedora though.
If you mean try having a conversation with the community before
something goes into effect... that's what this thread is. Depending
on how you count, at least a year in advance if not 3.
If you meant something else, I've missed it.
josh
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 11:12 AM Adam Williamson
<adamwill(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2022-03-07 at 12:44 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > Hi Fedora, CentOS, and EPEL Communities!
> >
> > As part of our continued 3 year major Red Hat Enterprise Linux release
> > cadence, RHEL 9 development is starting to wrap up with the spring
> > 2022 release coming soon. That means planning for the next release
> > will start in earnest in the very near future. As some of you may
> > know, Red Hat has been using both Bugzilla and Jira via
> > issues.redhat.com for RHEL development for several years. Our
> > intention is to move to using issues.redhat.com only for the major
> > RHEL releases after RHEL 9.
> >
> > What does this mean for Fedora and CentOS? This discussion is in part
> > to figure that out. Based on some very brief analysis, the following
> > should hold:
> >
> > - RHEL customers should continue to file support cases through the Red
> > Hat Customer portal, which will remain consistent regardless of the
> > backend tooling used.
> >
> > - There is no imminent retirement of the Red Hat Bugzilla instance
> > being planned at this time. RHEL 7, 8, and 9 will continue to use
> > bugzilla in some form and RHEL 9 has a very long lifecycle.
> >
> > - Fedora Linux and EPEL have their own Bugzilla product families and
> > are not directly impacted in their own workflows by the choice to use
> > only issues.redhat.com for RHEL.
> > - There will be impacts on existing documentation that provide
> > guidance on requesting things from RHEL in various places like EPEL.
> > We will be happy to help adjust these.
> >
> > - CentOS Stream contribution and bug reporting workflows will be
> > adjusted to use issues.redhat.com instead of bugzilla in the relevant
> > places. This should apply to all versions of CentOS Stream for a
> > unified contributor workflow. This will happen gradually as we
> > discover the best workflow to use.
> >
> > If there are other impacts that you can think of, please raise them on
> > this thread. We’d like to ensure we’re covering as much as possible
> > as this rolls out.
>
> So if I'm understanding this correctly, the ultimate consequence here
> is "Red Hat Bugzilla might go away, or stop being maintained, at
> whatever point it's no longer needed for RHEL 9", right?
I have no idea, to be honest. There's a lot of assumption in that
statement and it certainly could be an outcome, but I'm not aware of
any plans towards that directly.
> That could obviously have pretty significant consequences for Fedora.
> Bugzilla isn't only an issue tracker for Fedora; we run some
> significant processes through it, notably the Change process, the
> blocker/FE bug process, and the prioritized bug process. In A World
> Without Bugzilla all of those would need adapting (and their
> documentation updating). There's fairly tight integration between Bodhi
> and Bugzilla, which would need to be redesigned. Those are just things
> I can think of off the top of my head. There are also a couple of
> decades worth of internet links to Fedora issues on RH Bugzilla, of
> course.
Those all sound like the things I'm familiar with.
> I guess the two big choices for Fedora if RH said "we're not
> maintaining Bugzilla any more" would be 1) take over maintaining
> Bugzilla or 2) switch to something else. 1) would probably be the path
> of least resistance, I guess.
>
> This does also kinda lead to a larger question for me, trying to wear
> both Red Hat and Fedora hats at the same time[0]. I wonder if we're
> kind of lacking a...mechanism, for want of a better word, to handle the
> *generic* case here. Let's rewind to Ye Olde Days, when "the Fedora
> project" first started. At that point Fedora and Red Hat shared a lot
> of tooling and infrastructure, and this was useful to both sides in
> many ways; it saves on development costs and it makes it easy for
> people to work in both worlds. With my Red Hat on, I think I'm allowed
> to say that internally we often talk about this being desirable -
> having consistency between how X is done in Fedora and how it's done
> for RHEL - and it obviously has benefits to Fedora too (it means we
> don't have to find the resources to do that same work at Fedora level).
Fedora and RHEL process and tooling has deviated significantly over
the years. So much so that by the time I joined the RHEL team, it was
already very different. That was almost 5 years ago, which means the
individual decisions that led to it were even earlier. I don't really
want to revisit those decisions because I wasn't around and can't
speak to why they were made, but the connection between Fedora and
RHEL via bugzilla is minimal at best.
The commonality that brings the most shared benefit is the activities
of our communities, the quality and rigor they bring into Fedora, and
the sources we share. Tooling and process are orthogonal to those.
Important, because they certainly lend themselves to aiding that
quality and rigor, but orthogonal.
> However, situations like this make me wonder if we might have an issue
> with keeping shared infra/tooling where it's desirable. It seems like
> this is a decision/conversation that's been happening within RH, about
> what makes sense for RH in terms of RHEL development. AFAIK this is the
> first time it's been formally talked about in a Fedora context, and the
> messaging is "RH has already decided to stop using Bugzilla for RHEL
> after 9". In other words, RH has decided on its own to move away from
> something that is part of the shared RH/Fedora "heritage way of doing
> things".
I don't think this is the first instance of those kinds of decisions.
It is perhaps one of the few instances where we've been up-front about
it well in advance.
> I'm not saying that's wrong, but as I said it does make me wonder
> whether, if both sides do find shared tooling/approaches beneficial, we
I think we do in some cases, and not in others. I don't find bugzilla
to be one of those. Even the clone function is questionable.
> might want to approach this kind of potential change differently in
> future. Otherwise it does seem like we could sort of gradually drift
> apart, with no explicit intention to do so, and lose the benefits of
> shared tooling and process. Unless the ultimate outcome of this is
>From my perspective, we minimally share tooling. Process is common in
concepts, but RHEL process is far more additive and heavy-weight than
anything Fedora does.
> "Fedora adopts issues.redhat.com for bug tracking" - which would be a
> possibility, but doesn't seem like a certainty - the result will be
To be clear, it is not an explicit goal for Fedora to adopt
issues.redhat.com. That's up to the Fedora project, much as adoption
of gitlab was.
> that we go from having a shared bug tracker, with the benefits of
> shared maintenance and being able to easily clone or reference bugs
> between Fedora and RHEL, to each maintaining our own bug tracker and
> not having those benefits.
Personally, I don't think we're taking advantage of perceived benefits
at all. They are effectively separate.
> Of course, there would be sensitivities in developing such a process -
> it could look a lot like Red Hat telling Fedora how to do stuff, which
> I think isn't exactly the relationship we want to have. But at the same
> time I'm not sure "Red Hat or Fedora just deciding unilaterally to stop
> using this thing they'd previously both used" is always the best choice
> either.
The Fedora decision is up to Fedora. RHEL is driven by product
constraints and will evaluate based on those needs. Where we can
align, we should. For a recent example of a decision to align more,
look at the CKI project. Both Fedora and RHEL benefit greatly from
maintaining the kernel in the CKI manner, and this is the closest the
Fedora and RHEL kernels have ever been.
josh
Hi all,
First, I want to apologize if any guests were unable to join the board
meeting today. We had technical issues and had to switch to a different
room, and we might not have gotten the new URL to everybody. Minutes
and recording will be posted shortly.
We will have our monthly board office hours next week, so if you have
questions, you can bring them there. Join us Wednesday, March 16 at
15:00 UTC.
**NOTE** Some people will start daylight savings this weekend. The
meeting time is in UTC. Double-check your local time.
Local time: `date -d "2022-03-16 15:00 UTC"`
Video call link: https://meet.google.com/wtn-zwwz-dca
If you need dial-in details instead, just email me off-list.
Thanks,
Shaun
Hi everyone,
This is a weekly report from the CPE (Community Platform Engineering)
Team. If you have any questions or feedback, please respond to this
report or contact us on #redhat-cpe channel on libera.chat
(https://libera.chat/).
If you wish to read this in form of a blog post, check the post on
Fedora community blog:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-of-february-…
# Highlights of the week
## Infrastructure & Release Engineering
Goal of this Initiative
-----------------------
Purpose of this team is to take care of day to day business regarding
CentOS and Fedora Infrastructure and Fedora release engineering work.
It’s responsible for services running in Fedora and CentOS
infrastructure and preparing things for the new Fedora release (mirrors,
mass branching, new namespaces etc.).
The ARC (which is a subset of the team) investigates possible
initiatives that CPE might take on.
Update
------
### Fedora Infra
* One new power9 online in iad2, second one needs hands on today.
* Almost all bugzilla auth changes made, still need some changes to
toddlers (ongoing)
* Container builds broken again in an odd way (
https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10658)
* Discussion on fedoraplanet.org on infrastructure list, please chime in
if you have thoughts about it.
### CentOS Infra including CentOS CI
* Migration of Pagure to new CentOS CI in progress
* Openssl3 [late
change](https://gitlab.com/redhat/centos-stream/rpms/openssl/-/commit/78fb7…
in EL9 impacting SIGs and gpg keys
### Release Engineering
* Work on SCM request automation in progress -
[PR](https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/toddlers/pull-request/93)
* Container builds failing on armhfp
* Bussiness as usual
## CentOS Stream
Goal of this Initiative
-----------------------
This initiative is working on CentOS Stream/Emerging RHEL to make this
new distribution a reality. The goal of this initiative is to prepare
the ecosystem for the new CentOS Stream.
Updates
-------
* Investigating compose QA improvements both in the t-functional suite
and changes we may want to implement later in the project.
* Developing sync2gitlab service for 8, 9 workflow alignment
* Business as usual activities around CentOS Linux 7
* Work continuing on content resolvers maintainer pages also
## CentOS Duffy CI
Goal of this Initiative
-----------------------
Duffy is a system within CentOS CI Infra which allows tenants to
provision and access bare metal resources of multiple architectures for
the purposes of CI testing.
We need to add the ability to checkout VMs in CentOS CI in Duffy. We
have OpenNebula hypervisor available, and have started developing
playbooks which can be used to create VMs using the OpenNebula API, but
due to the current state of how Duffy is deployed, we are blocked with
new dev work to add the VM checkout functionality.
Updates
-------
* Demo/Status call
* Deployment to staging (ongoing)
* Documentation (ongoing)
* Expiring sessions (ongoing)
## Image builder for Fedora IoT
Goal of this Initiative
-----------------------
Integration of Image builder as a service with Fedora infra to allow
Fedora IoT migrate their pipeline to Fedora infra.
Updates
-------
* No updates
## Bodhi
Goal of this Initiative
-----------------------
This initiative is to separate Bodhi into multiple sub packages, fix
integration and unit tests in CI, fix dependency management and automate
part of the release process.
Read ARC team findings in detail at:
https://fedora-arc.readthedocs.io/en/latest/bodhi/index.html
Updates
-------
* No updates
## EPEL
Goal of this initiative
-----------------------
Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux (or EPEL) is a Fedora Special
Interest Group that creates, maintains, and manages a high quality set
of additional packages for Enterprise Linux, including, but not limited
to, Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), CentOS and Scientific Linux (SL),
Oracle Linux (OL).
EPEL packages are usually based on their Fedora counterparts and will
never conflict with or replace packages in the base Enterprise Linux
distributions. EPEL uses much of the same infrastructure as Fedora,
including buildsystem, bugzilla instance, updates manager, mirror
manager and more.
Updates
-------
* EPEL9 up to 2059 source packages (increase of 71 from last week)
* EPEL9 buildroot has switched to a snapshot of the CentOS Stream 9
mirror, to avoid building against any 9.1 changes prior to the RHEL 9.0 GA
* [EPEL Office
Hours](https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/epel-office-hours/) were
yestarday at 1700 UTC
* epel-release (and epel-next-release) now available in CentOS Stream 9
Extras repo
Kindest regards,
CPE Team
Hi Folks,
OpenSSL in CentOS Stream and RHEL 9 intends to remove the sha1
algorithm, and recently a build landed that makes this change.
When that build first went to testing we noticed that the CentOS SIG
rpm signing keys (including the one enabled by default for Extras)
contained a sha1 signature on one of the subkeys, which caused trouble
validating rpms.
We have begun to mitigate this by re-signing the offending subkey in
the Extras signing key and are currently pushing a compose to the
mirrors. If you've previously imported the Extras key (like if you've
installed a SIG centos-release package on your system), you may notice
messages during an rpm transaction like:
`Key import failed (code 2)`
followed by
`Error: GPG check FAILED`
To continue you will need to update to centos-gpg-keys-9.0-12.el9
(plus the corresponding centos-stream-release package) and perform a
manual step:
`rpm --import /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-SIG-Extras-SHA512`
Since all of the SIG keys are affected as well, we are working on
re-signing subkeys for those SIGs that are currently shipping content
for CentOS Stream 9. We will post links to the updated pubkeys and SIG
leaders will need to rebuild their centos-release packages to include
these new keys. We expect references to those new keys to be published
in the next couple of days.
If there are any questions please find us in #centos-devel or
#centos-stream in libera, or reply here.
Cheers!
--Brian
References:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2059424
Good Morning Everyone!
The CentOS Automotive SIG is excited to announce the Automotive Stream
Distribution. This is a binary distribution developed within the SIG that serves
as a public, in-development preview of the upcoming Red Hat in-vehicle OS.
More information can be found at:
https://blog.centos.org/2022/03/centos-automotive-sig-announces-new-autosd-…
Best regards,
Pierre
PS: I had sent this email 13 hours ago but from the wrong account... and I
didn't get an error that my messages had been discarded so I didn't notice that
it had not reached the list, my apologies for this :(
Hi all - just a quick reminder that the next SIG meeting is tomorrow, March
2, at 1500 UTC (10am EDT, 4pm CET). We will talk about the establishment of
the AutoSD distro and how to use it.
RSVP is not necessary, and everyone is welcome to join. The meeting will be
held via Google Meet at this link:
https://meet.google.com/hkx-btgd-dyc
Please let me know if you would like to be added to the invitation going
forward.
best,
Jeffrey "Jefro" Osier-Mixon | jefro(a)redhat.com
Red Hat Office of the CTO | Sr. Principal Community Architect, Automotive