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RFC - debuginfod.centos.org usage (Stream 8 packages)
by Fabian Arrotin 24 Sep '25

24 Sep '25

[Request for Comments] We recently got a zabbix alert about disk threshold usage on https://debuginfod.centos.org service. As a reminder (and for context), while all previous centos linux releases had (for efficiency reasons) a split between .src.rpm (going to https://vault.centos.org) and *debuginfo* rpm packages (consuming a lot of bandwidth/disk space) going to http://debuginfo.centos.org , the plan changed when Stream 8 (and so Stream 9 and 10 too) landed. All packages were pushed out to mirror network, but not all variants (multiple ones due to Stream nature) were kept online. We were asked to provide a similar service to what Fedora was already offering and so that's how https://debuginfod.centos.org/ came to life : for people willing to debug pkgs, they can request "on the fly" corresponding debuginfo files/packages (see website for simple instructions) Now the question (and requests for comments) : We were still carrying on that server all the Stream 8 debuginfo packages, while technically not needed anymore (Stream 8 was removed from all mirrors when it went EOL in May 2024) ... But based on analysis done with Frank Eigler (maintaining the service with us), we discovered that in fact a third of all requests for debuginfod service are still about stream 8 (vs Stream 9 and 10) The question is so : can we just delete (imho, yes !) these old .el8. debuginfo packages (probably just analyzed in loop by AI scrapers these days) and so : - limit bandwidth needed for that machine - reclaim some storage space (instead of increasing in loop the backend disks) Opinions, thoughts, comments ? -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | @arrfab[@fosstodon.org]

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September Board Meeting Recap
by Shaun McCance 16 Sep '25

16 Sep '25

The recording of the September CentOS Board meeting is now available. Watch the recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfLItewI6lc Read the minutes: https://gitlab.com/CentOS/Board/tracker/-/blob/master/meetings/2025/2025-09… See this post on the blog: https://blog.centos.org/2025/09/centos-board-meeting-recap-september-2025/ The recording has timestamps so you can skip to the parts that interest you. Here are a few highlights of the meeting: * We talked about the recent FRCL meetings. * Secure Boot is now available for CentOS Stream 9 and 10. * We discussed some docs issues the Automotive SIG has raised. * We discussed upcoming events, including DevConf US and All Things Open.

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Secure Boot working on fresh CentOS Stream 9 and 10 installs
by Troy Dawson 10 Sep '25

10 Sep '25

Starting on the August 25 update (20250825), Secure Boot is now working on both CentOS Steam 9 and 10 fresh installs. It is also working on qcow2 images. We apologize that it has taken so long for this to happen. Many thanks to the many people who helped get us to this state. CentOS Stream Team

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2025-09-10 CentOS Public Board Meeting
by Amy Marrich 10 Sep '25

10 Sep '25

Sorry for the late notice everyone, Our next board meeting will take place at 20:00 UTC on Wednesday: `date -d "2025-09-10 20:00 UTC"` If you would like to attend please send me an email to amy(a)redhat.com ( please do not reply to @centos-devel or use another email address) and you will receive a link to a meeting room with a passcode, 1 hour before the meeting takes place. The agenda can be checked at (work in progress) : https://hackmd.io/2DEyFHnoQD-SkopXUZmBWQ <https://hackmd.io/2DEyFHnoQD-SkopXUZmBWQ> As a reminder we will enforce few rules : * Wait to be recognized by the Chair before speaking * Respect the Chair when told your time to speak is over - this will allow us to remain on agenda, and complete the meetings in the allotted time * In the event that there are Board-confidential topics, these will be put at the end of the meeting, in Executive Session, and guests will be asked to leave. We hope to minimize these items, but they do sometimes happen. The most common scenarios in which this may happen are personnel issues, or information that Red Hat wishes to share with the Board, but is not yet public. * Muting of participants, or, in extreme situations, ejection from the meeting, is at the sole discretion of the Chair. * Meetings will be recorded, and published to YouTube (possibly with edits/redaction, as approved by the Directors). Thus, by joining the meeting you consent to have your presence at the meeting, and anything you say during the meeting, made public. I hope some of you can join. thanks, *Amy Marrich* She/Her/Hers Principal Technical Marketing Manager - Cloud Platforms Red Hat, Inc <https://www.redhat.com/> amy(a)redhat.com Mobile: 954-818-0514 Slack: amarrich IRC: spotz

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Tarballs with all CentOS Stream specs now available
by Troy Dawson 08 Sep '25

08 Sep '25

The CentOS Stream team has automated the created of tarballs that have all of the CentOS Stream spec files in them. This is just like the tarballs of Fedora's spec files.[1] There is a separate tarball for each major release. It is updated daily. https://jenkins.stream.centos.org/job/util-latest-rpm-spec/lastSuccessfulBu… https://jenkins.stream.centos.org/job/util-latest-rpm-spec/lastSuccessfulBu… We hope this is useful. CentOS Stream development team. [1] - https://src.fedoraproject.org/lookaside/rpm-specs-latest.tar.xz

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Gitlab CI/CI usage quota for SIGs (please read)
by Fabian Arrotin 02 Sep '25

02 Sep '25

Hi all SIGs! As we all switched (for SIGs) to gitlab.com in the last months (and final archive was done for all /rpms/* and other projects still on pagure/git.centos.org) some SIGs started to explore other gitlab features, like CI/CD. We got this week a warning from Gitlab about our CentOS project almost reaching the allocated quota in our sponsored account there, but it should be reset on monthly basis and it shouldn't be blocking any of your CI/CD pipelines for this week. But we still need to verify about which SIGs are (ab)using the "compute minutes" allocated for our account and find a better/optimized way to let you still use CI/CD features, but maybe by offloading to some dedicated runners we'd spin up in our own infra . I just created yesterday ticket https://gitlab.com/CentOS/infra/tracker/-/issues/1743 to track this (but need some investigation and time which I had not planned to spent on gitlab for now) Actually the top 3 projects/groups under CentOS org on gitlab using computes minutes for August are : - https://gitlab.com/CentOS/automotive/src/automotive-image-builder (~17200 minutes so far) - https://gitlab.com/CentOS/Hyperscale/rpms/systemd (~5400 minutes so far) - https://gitlab.com/CentOS/kmods/rpms/kernel (~1300 minutes so far) We clearly see an exponential growth for compute minutes usage, but we'd also remind each SIG/project hosted there to be "good citizen" and so think that they are quotas in place that would eventually impact other hosted projects. -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | @arrfab[@fosstodon.org]

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[Infra] - Planned outage : cbs.centos.org / lists.centos.org
by Fabian Arrotin 02 Sep '25

02 Sep '25

Due to hardware consolidation (and reuse to prepare upcoming DC move), we'll have to migrate some VMs to different hypervisors. Publicly accessible VMs that SIGs are interacting with and that are impacted by that operation (other internal VMs will be also migrated but no impact for SIGs) : - https://cbs.centos.org - https://lists.centos.org Migration is scheduled for """"Tuesday September 2nd, 6:00 am UTC time"""". You can convert to local time with $(date -d '2025-09-02 06:00 UTC') The expected "downtime" is estimated to ~30 minutes , time to shutdown VM/service, migrate definition and storage to different hypervisor, redefine VM and restart it. Thanks for your understanding and patience. on behalf of the Infra team, -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | @arrfab[@fosstodon.org]

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