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RE: [CentOS-devel] Using Centos as embedded linux.
by Vishak V. Kurup 15 Jan '08

15 Jan '08

That's also correct. But not because of the distribution I am blaming ARM. The performance got degraded very much in arm. Regards Vishak V Kurup -----Original Message----- From: centos-devel-bounces(a)centos.org [mailto:centos-devel-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Lennert Buytenhek Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:03 PM To: The CentOS developers mailing list. Subject: Re: [CentOS-devel] Using Centos as embedded linux. On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:45:00AM +0530, Vishak V. Kurup wrote: > I have worked with arm...but it is a night mare for me... > > [snip] > > ..the os I used was montavista linux ... There you have the explanation. :-) *runs* More seriously, don't blame the CPU for the shortcomings of the distro you were using. There are enough distros that run on ARM that aren't similarly crippled. _______________________________________________ CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel

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RE: [CentOS-devel] Using Centos as embedded linux.
by Vishak V. Kurup 15 Jan '08

15 Jan '08

I have worked with arm...but it is a night mare for me...i don't know from where all dependency problems comes...and also cross compiled libraries freely available ... were having many issues... my test machine was i686... and I had to port a gtk application in arm board ..the os I used was montavista linux ...many of may features did not work in board.. Regards Vishak V Kurup -----Original Message----- From: centos-devel-bounces(a)centos.org [mailto:centos-devel-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Lennert Buytenhek Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 6:17 AM To: The CentOS developers mailing list. Subject: Re: [CentOS-devel] Using Centos as embedded linux. On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 09:51:59PM +0900, John Summerfield wrote: > >If you need something much smaller (or a non-supported platform like > >ARM), I'd suggest looking at Busybox or a BSD operating system. > > Debian is very popular on ARM; I think I read it has more Linux system > on ARM than on IA32!. That's somewhat unlikely. :) But there _are_ probably an order of magnitude more ARM CPUs in the world than x86 CPUs. _______________________________________________ CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel

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CentOS-5 Cross-Build Environment (arm, mips, sparc, others..) / pre-alpha released
by Brian Schueler 15 Jan '08

15 Jan '08

Hi, folks. I've begun to work on a cross-build environment hopely to make CentOS 5 run on other architectures than supported by CentOS yet and that supported by the PNAELV. This project comes with a patch for the glibc 2.5 with added support for architectures like arm, mips, ppc, alpha, etc. to generate a cross-compile toolchain (cross-compilers, assemblers, linker/loader). It runs quite well with the Timesys 'tsrpm' tool (which is compatible with that project). Many RPMs does cross-build very well, but others fails on sanity checks, incompatible configure scripts, etc. (Kernel compilation is not included at this time.) Note that software created through that toolchain is not binary compatible to anything released by CentOS or the PNAELV. I want to switch to 'mock' and - I need a lot of help with its internals. The best enhancement were that 'mock' could recursively rebuild software entirely from source (using a yum repository that _only_ provides SRPMS). - only needing compiling natively (host-arch = target-arch). And there are many things to discuss at one event (glibc, cross-compiling, Kernels, automated RPM cross-(re)build machinery, repository management, yum-bootstapping, etc.) IMPORTANT: This is my first version - so please consider my project as unstable/pre-alpha. My wish is to make this project work as desired to bring CentOS to many more architectures and hopely to make it part of the CentOS project. This is leaned to Cross Linux From Scratch and is licensed under the terms of the GNU GPL v2. The tree is located at: http://dbl76.tfh-berlin.de/~s18009/c5/cross reviews, improvements, suggestions, bug reports are very welcome. - BriSch

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RE: [CentOS-devel] Using Centos as embedded linux.
by Vishak V. Kurup 15 Jan '08

15 Jan '08

Thank you all for the enormous suggestions and information's ... I think I can go forward with the customization. Many suggested using Debian instead of CentOS... Why I prefer CentOS is that CentOS is more stable than Debian or any other editions... and there will be less dependency problems (I think so) Regards Vishak V Kurup -----Original Message----- From: centos-devel-bounces(a)centos.org [mailto:centos-devel-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of John Summerfield Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 4:43 AM To: The CentOS developers mailing list. Subject: Re: [CentOS-devel] Using Centos as embedded linux. Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez wrote: > > I have been thinking to slim centos by recompiling every RPM without the > docs and several other tricks to make it less fatter.. of course it wont > be the real centos but some sort of reduced copy. rpm supports omitting docs. You might need to fiddle anaconda or yum to choose the right way. > > BTW, I found that debian was easier to install in such a hardware That's my thinking. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa(a)coco.merseine.nu Z1aaaaaaa(a)coco.merseine.nu -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) _______________________________________________ CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel

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CentOS 4.6, buildinstall and bogl font problem
by James Pearson 14 Jan '08

14 Jan '08

I'm trying to rebuild a custom 4.6 installer using /usr/lib/anaconda-runtime/buildinstall (from anaconda-runtime-10.1.1.81-1.centos4.1), but it gives the following warnings/errors: Creating bogl font.. zcat: /tmp/treedir.4539/instimage/usr/lib/bogl/font.bdf.gz: No such file or directory cat: /tmp/treedir.4539/instimage/usr/lib/anaconda-runtime/unicode-linedraw-chars.txt/disk1/distro/CentOS/4/i386/os/buildinstall.tree.4526/upd-instroot: line 939: /tmp/treedir.4539/instimage/usr/bin/reduce-font: No such file or directory: No such file or directory find: msgunfmt terminated by signal 13 find: msgunfmt terminated by signal 13 ...(repeats until)... find: msgunfmt terminated by signal 13 /disk1/distro/CentOS/4/i386/os/buildinstall.tree.4526/upd-instroot: line 940: /tmp/treedir.4539/instimage/usr/bin/bdftobogl: No such file ordirectory gzip: /tmp/treedir.4539/instimage/usr/lib/anaconda-runtime/loader/font.bgf.gz already exists; do you wish to overwrite (y or n)? ... and buildinstall waits until you type y or n. If you type "n", then you end up with an empty font.bgf.gz file ... It appears the /usr/lib/anaconda-runtime/upd-instroot script wants to create it's own font.bgf.gz, but it can't find the bits to do this. Also, /usr/lib/anaconda-runtime/loader/font.bgf.gz already exists as part of anaconda-runtime, so I'm not sure why it is trying to re-create this font file. I can hack /usr/lib/anaconda-runtime/upd-instroot to skip this, but I guess I must be doing something wrong as this shouldn't happen ... Thanks James Pearson

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Use CentOSplus to carry latest GUI packages
by Ross S. W. Walker 11 Jan '08

11 Jan '08

I don't know if this has been talked about much in the past, but I was wondering if CentOSplus could be used to carry the latest stable versions of the GUI applications KDE/Gnome. These apps often lag behind quite a bit even on the selected stable branch upstream has chosen. For example, would it decrease stability to update KDE from 3.5.4 to 3.5.8? I think it would add to stability as long as you stay within that 3.5 branch, but upstream thinks otherwise and tries to re-invent the wheel by backporting 3.5.5-3.5.8 fixes into 3.5.4 which often don't work completely and have the potential of creating new bugs themselves. Another thing, Xen, the Xen package says it's 3.0.3, but looking at the SRPM it turns out it's the Xen 3.1 kernel with the Xen 3.0.3 'xm' and 'xend' dom0 utilities. In my book that's Xen 3.1, why not just fix the parts of the 3.1 utilities that broke between releases? Anyways Xen may not be a good candidate as others may have environmental dependencies on the upstream version, but upgrading to the latest minor version within a branch for a given application shouldn't break environmental dependencies, ie provide Xen 3.1.4 if it contains the xm and xend fixes that upstream was looking for. What is the consenus on this? -Ross ______________________________________________________________________ This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original and any copy or printout thereof.

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centos-release for 4.6
by James Pearson 11 Jan '08

11 Jan '08

Something that is puzzling me - why is the centos-release RPM for CentOS4.6 called centos-release-4-4.4 - shouldn't it be named something like centos-release-4-6.X ? Also, the centos-release-4-4.4.src.rpm doesn't appear to be on 4.6 SRPM DVD ISO image ... James Pearson

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Preview Xen 3.2 rc* packages
by Ian Jackson 11 Jan '08

11 Jan '08

Xen 3.2 is in the final stages of preparation. We (Xen upstream) are planning to provide binary packages for Centos 5.1, amongs others. I've merged the patches and so on from xen-3.0.3-41.centos5.i386.rpm with a recent xen-unstable RC tip (16701:8922a1469284). With a bit of effort I have managed to get a set of packages which appear to be able to work at least in my simple `does this function at all' test. I'm mentioning it here so that you can have a look at what I've done and comment on it. We'll probably be making official upstream rpms very soon after the Xen 3.2 release, which we hope will be early next week. Please send me feedback either here on-list or privately. Most of the useful patches from 3.0.3-41.centos5 have been incorporated upstream so I just deleted those from my srpm. There were also a few changes which I have just dropped. In particular, the RHEL5 package (and thus the Centos one too) is a bizarre frankenxen containing a forward port of the 3.0 dom0 userland tools to the Xen 3.1 hypervisor. In my package I have included the hypervisor in the xen-*.rpm rather than making a kernel package too. This is more in line with practice upstream; dom0 kernel compatibility between the 3.1 and 3.2 hypervisors is good and the new hypervisor seems to work for me with the Centos 5.1 2.6.18-53.el5xen kernel. You can find the actual files here: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~ijackson/xen-3.2-package-previews/centos… These packages should not be used for production - they're previews and I may have made elementary packaging mistakes. Xen 3.2 is still unreleased and in need of more testing. Please check the SHA256's before installing them: 8d1ab89c420559aac762e7b526b57f80434d45006c162713bd2120b43868a385 xen-3.1.9-0xs.centos5.i386.rpm 380062047a72308996a568f177c60125582acb48c2df2c0811f025542fa24367 xen-3.1.9-0xs.centos5.src.rpm 437b363c3f45a8e74db395468b127245fd775ddb9bd8b5e85f1a4d8ec7809e04 xen-debuginfo-3.1.9-0xs.centos5.i386.rpm 2b81624aa303828b06bda11201a6f2eaf923c384830c8cff5d3f53a22ebaf393 xen-devel-3.1.9-0xs.centos5.i386.rpm dfef6550f4d693c999923ba9b2d5ead7b8bbeca3bed0cbdc0835ca516d773ddc xen-libs-3.1.9-0xs.centos5.i386.rpm Regards, Ian.

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John Rosatti, Five Ways to Experience North Carolina?s Fall Color at its Best
by Super Star 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

John Rosatti, Five Ways to Experience North Carolina?s Fall Color at its Best Raleigh, N.C. (Vocus) September 21, 2007 -- Enjoy a feast for all the senses at fall?s finest vacation spots in North Carolina. View brilliant colors, listen to the leaves rustle in the wind and get up close and personal with nature. North Carolina offers spectacular spots to enjoy the fall season. Visitors can pick their favorite from this list or go to www.VisitNC.com<http://www.visitnc.com/>for a complete selection of great places just waiting to be discovered. 1. Leaf Watcher?s Favorite: Great Smoky Mountain Railroad Board Great Smoky Mountain Railroad for an eye-popping tour across colorful valleys and river gorges of the Great Smoky Mountains. Choose from a variety of round trip excursions originating from Dillsboro or Bryson City, including the popular Mystery Dinner Theatre Train and the Rapid Transit with the Nantahala Outdoor Center. www.gsmr.com or (800) 872-4681 2. Bike Off the Beaten Trail: Carolina Tailwinds Bicycle Tours Take less traveled roads while enjoying breathtaking views of beautiful pastoral scenery dotted with grape vines. Carolina Tailwinds Bicycle Tours in Winston-Salem offers the perfect mix of the great outdoors, historic attractions and fine wine. Relax at the charming farmhouse at Hanover Park Vineyards with its creaking wood floors and homey porch. Walk the cobblestone streets of historic Old Salem, buy old-fashioned candy at Rockford?s General Store, stay in an historic inn and test your cycling mettle on rolling hills with a few challenging climbs along the way. www.carolinatailwinds.com/winetour.htm or (888) 251-3206 3. Fly Above the Heart of North Carolina?s Wine Country: Yadkin Valley Balloon Adventures To enjoy the views at a more leisurely pace, try hot air ballooning. Soar to thousands of feet watching the colorful landscape unfold from above. Imagine skimming over a pond or touching the colorful treetops. Yadkin Valley Balloon Adventures offers flights with certified pilots ready to take you on an adventure of a lifetime. www.balloonadventure.net or (336) 922-7207 4. Ride the River Wild: Whitewater Rafting on Nantahala River Over thousands of years, the swift currents of the Nantahala River have carved an incredible gorge, lush with vegetation, in the mountains of western North Carolina. Winding eight miles through this gorge, the clear waters of the Nantahala offer plenty of practice on easy Class II rapids before culminating in the exciting Class III whitewater of the mighty Nantahala Falls. The Nantahala Outdoor Center has been leading trips since 1972 and can help make your trip a splash! www.noc.com or (888) 905-7238 5. A Must See: Blue Ridge Parkway One of the most popular ways to view the changing leaves is by driving the Blue Ridge Parkway, designated an All-American Road by the Federal Highway Administration. This is the highest designation bestowed on any road. Before you go, purchase the Go Blue Ridge Card, a premium attraction pass that offers fully pre-paid access to 29 top tourist attractions and discounts on dining and shopping. It also comes with a full color guidebook that includes maps and describes each of the offers in detail. Also, plan a stop at the Blue Ridge Parkway Destination Center at Milepost 384 near Asheville, opening on Oct. 1, 2007. This 12,000-square-foot facility will house exhibits featuring things to see and do in the region as well as a shop with books and other items. Plans to celebrate the 75th anniversary of the Blue Ridge Parkway in 2010 are already underway. Stay tuned for upcoming events along the Parkway during 2010 to celebrate the building of the Parkway as well as the history, music and culture of the region. or (828) 271-4779; or (800) 887-9103; or (336) 721-0260 Bonus -- Local Favorite: The Road to Nowhere Scenic Drive "The Road To Nowhere", as most local residents call it, is a six-mile scenic drive into the North Carolina side of the Great Smoky Mountains National Park where it dead-ends. The drive provides spectacular views of Fontana Lake and the Appalachian Mountains and was originally named "Lakeview Drive", but since the road was never completed (as the government promised) residents, who were forced to leave their homes in order for Fontana Dam to be built, gave it the name of "The Road To Nowhere." Natural scenic beauty, adventure and relaxation, a dining experience for every taste, rich history and warm Southern hospitality come together in North Carolina. Call 1-800-VISIT NC or go to VisitNC.com to plan your next getaway. Contact: Jennifer Frings, (704) 364-8969 Susan Dosier, (704) 364-8969 Wit Tuttell, (919) 733-7420 ###

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Palm Vacations, Vacationing In Amsterdam
by Super Star 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

Palm Vacations, Vacationing In Amsterdam Thinking about planning a vacation for the Netherlands? Why not opt for Amsterdam? Prior to flying there, you want to learn some basic facts about the city. Provided below are some facts for those who are thinking about or planning to vacation in Amsterdam. Amsterdam is an instantly likable and compact European city. Many who have vacationed in Amsterdam have reported that the city is not only appealing to look at but that Amsterdam is also enjoyable to walk around with its dreamy canals and cozy cafes. Amsterdam is where international and parochial behaviors join. It is where attitudes towards visitors are welcoming. This attitude has resulted from embracing liberal counterculture during the past four decades. Most people in Amsterdam can speak fluent English. Some speak German and French but if you are an English speaker it is recommended that you speak in English rather than French or German. The layout of Amsterdam includes a web of canals that radiate from a historical core and loops around to the center. Many Amsterdam vacation resources note that these extensions of the seventeenth century make for an elegant and distinctive urban environment. Some Amsterdam vacationers deem the city as one most charming because it is far away from the noise and traffic of many other city centers in Europe. These facts make Amsterdam a popular vacation destination in Europe. Amsterdam is known throughout the world to be tolerant towards various styles of dress and behavior. An interesting fact that you should also be aware of before vacationing in Amsterdam is that it is also widely known as a place where the sale and possession of cannabis are decriminalized. For the most part, however, the citizens of Amsterdam can?t be bothered with it. The above information should be helpful in giving you some insight as to what Amsterdam is like. But if you are planning to vacation in Amsterdam, it is suggested that you do further research and learn even more about the fabulous city of Amsterdam.

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