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Missing announcement CEBA-2010:0227
by Andreas Rogge 09 May '11

09 May '11

CentOS 5 x86_64 updates contains: etherboot-pxes-5.4.4-13.el5.centos.x86_64.rpm etherboot-roms-5.4.4-13.el5.centos.x86_64.rpm etherboot-roms-kvm-5.4.4-13.el5.centos.x86_64.rpm etherboot-zroms-5.4.4-13.el5.centos.x86_64.rpm etherboot-zroms-kvm-5.4.4-13.el5.centos.x86_64.rpm This belongs to CEBA-2010:0227 and is x86_64 only. Neither CEBA-2010:0227 nor any of the above packages been announced. There's also some more weird stuff we're hitting. I will bring it up on the list unless someone tells me to stop. Regards, Andreas -- Solvention Ltd. & Co. KG Egermannstr. 6-8 53359 Rheinbach Tel: +49 2226 158179-0 Fax: +49 2226 158179-9 http://www.solvention.de mailto:info@solvention.de

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Missing Package spice-usb-redirector / CEEA-2010:0460
by Andreas Rogge 09 May '11

09 May '11

I just noticed that the following packages which were announced as CEEA-2010:0460 [1],[2] but never made it onto the mirrors: spice-usb-redirector-4.5-2.el5_5.i386.rpm spice-usb-redirector-4.5-2.el5_5.x86_64.rpm Regards, Andreas [1] http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2010-June/016719.html [2] http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2010-June/016721.html -- Solvention Ltd. & Co. KG Egermannstr. 6-8 53359 Rheinbach Tel: +49 2226 158179-0 Fax: +49 2226 158179-9 http://www.solvention.de mailto:info@solvention.de

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Confusing package versioning
by Ned Slider 06 May '11

06 May '11

Hi Johnny et al., I'd like to raise a query relating to recent package versioning. For example, CentOS recently released the following updates: httpd-2.2.3-45.el5.centos.1.src.rpm selinux-policy-2.4.6-300.el5_6.1.src.rpm relating to the upstream packages: httpd-2.2.3-45.el5_6.1.src.rpm selinux-policy-2.4.6-300.el5_6.1.src.rpm which IMHO is confusing. In the case of selinux-policy (and others) CentOS rigorously follows the upstream versioning, yet for httpd the versioning is different. Firstly, IMHO it is difficult to establish that the two (httpd) packages are indeed the same, and secondly, one wonders how CentOS might handle the notional upstream release of httpd-2.2.3-45.el5_7.1.src.rpm, for example. Where it is necessary to append the centos tag, I would assume it would be preferable to do it at the end of the existing release string thus preserving the upstream notation. For example, httpd-2.2.3-45.el5_6.1.centos.src.rpm I realise it's not easy when upstream do things like this: Release: 45%{?dist}.1 but at the very least it would be nice if you could set %{dist} to el5_6.centos in this case which would be a closer match to upstream As it stands, it looks like the centos.1 was appended by CentOS and the original upstream package was httpd-2.2.3-45.el5.src.rpm which clearly isn't the case. In such cases, would editing the SPEC file release line be the lesser of two evils?

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redhat-logos bug?
by Farkas Levente 05 May '11

05 May '11

hi, in redhat-logos-4.9.99-11.el5.centos.src.rpm there are source Source8: gnome-splash.png Source9: redhat-credits.png but source 9 never used while source 8 used twice: cp -f %{SOURCE8} gnome-splash/ cp -f %{SOURCE8} pixmaps/ is it a bug or feature? -- Levente "Si vis pacem para bellum!"

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sata_via and WD drives incompatibility patch
by Dmitry E. Mikhailov 04 May '11

04 May '11

Greetings, I was hit by an infamous hardware incompatibility between VIA VT6420/1 sata card (sata_via) and newer Western Digital drives. The bug has been worked around in mainline kernel at 2.6.32.7, * https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15173 * http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ide/46352 * http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1062139 The sata_via patch from bug#15173 applies cleanly to sata_via module of 2.6.18-238 and now I'm running using a 'fixed' module with no problem. Unfortunately the patched module uses symbols not from kABI whitelist so universal replacement kernel module could not be made, but the patch itself could be integrated to upstream's tree or into the CentOS-Plus kernel. As I'm not a RHEL subscriber, I can only ask for the latter. Any ideas? Best regards, Dmitry Mikhailov

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updateinfo.xml
by Baptiste AGASSE 04 May '11

04 May '11

Hi all, It could be useful to make "yum updates --security" work, and now, spacewalk (since 1.4) can generate erratas from this file. Thanks for yours answers. Regards.

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Test scripts - some starter questions.
by Steve Barnes 04 May '11

04 May '11

Hi list A few questions regarding the scope of test scripts that have been requested: - is there a git repository or similar source that contains all of the currently available test scripts? It would be helpful to know that, given my copious spare time, I'm not re-inventing any wheels or contributing the 57th LAMP install script. - relating to package installation test scripts, would there be any appreciable benefit to simply throwing everything + kitchen sink at the wall and see what _doesn't_ stick? (i.e., yum install every single available package one after the other and record any failures?) This seems like a more...comprehensive method of uncovering package installation issues than me simply picking "my top 10 favourite/most well known" yum packages. - is the scope for test scripts "anything you can think of that performs some kind of configuration change with a measurable return value" - e.g, tests that cover (for example) networking configuration, partition/filesystem creation, package installation, firewall configuration, user/group account creation/deletion/editing, SSH key generation etc etc etc? - at present, each test script needs to be self-contained. To reduce the amount of code duplication/maintenance is there any intention (or objection) to developing a library of helper functions? Thank you! Steve

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Missing packages since January (broken update for CentOS 5)
by Milan Keršláger 30 Apr '11

30 Apr '11

There are missing updates (there could be more of them): libselinux-1.33.4-5.7.el5.src.rpm (RHBA-2011:0029, 1/12/11) device-mapper-1.02.55-2.el5.src.rpm (RHBA-2011:0051, 1/13/11) My error message: --> Running transaction check ---> Package libvirt.x86_64 0:0.8.2-15.el5_6.1 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libselinux >= 1.33.4-5.6 for package: libvirt ---> Package libvirt-python.x86_64 0:0.8.2-15.el5_6.1 set to be updated ---> Package lvm2.x86_64 0:2.02.74-5.el5_6.1 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: device-mapper >= 1.02.55-2 for package: lvm2 --> Finished Dependency Resolution libvirt-0.8.2-15.el5_6.1.x86_64 from updates has depsolving problems --> Missing Dependency: libselinux >= 1.33.4-5.6 is needed by package libvirt-0.8.2-15.el5_6.1.x86_64 (updates) lvm2-2.02.74-5.el5_6.1.x86_64 from updates has depsolving problems --> Missing Dependency: device-mapper >= 1.02.55-2 is needed by package lvm2-2.02.74-5.el5_6.1.x86_64 (updates) Error: Missing Dependency: device-mapper >= 1.02.55-2 is needed by package lvm2-2.02.74-5.el5_6.1.x86_64 (updates) Error: Missing Dependency: libselinux >= 1.33.4-5.6 is needed by package libvirt-0.8.2-15.el5_6.1.x86_64 (updates) M.K. -- Milan Keršláger http://www.pslib.cz/ke/ http://www.nti.tul.cz/wiki/Milan.Kerslager

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problems in centos-5.6
by Farkas Levente 26 Apr '11

26 Apr '11

hi, i try to collect the problems, bugs and 'strange' things in current centos-5.6 release: os/i386 these shouldn't have to be there (they are from older release): kmod-gfs-0.1.34-12 kmod-gfs-PAE-0.1.34-12 kmod-gfs-xen-0.1.34-12 centos-release-notes-5.5-0 updates/i386 these shouldn't have to be there (they are already in os): libtdb-1.2.1-5.el5.i386 libtdb-devel-1.2.1-5.el5.i386 m2crypto-0.16-6.el5.8.i386 tdb-tools-1.2.1-5.el5.i386 virt-manager-0.6.1-13.el5.i386 os/x86_64 these shouldn't have to be there (they are already in os): etherboot-pxes-5.4.4-13.el5.x86_64 etherboot-roms-5.4.4-13.el5.x86_64 etherboot-roms-kvm-5.4.4-13.el5.x86_64 etherboot-zroms-5.4.4-13.el5.x86_64 etherboot-zroms-kvm-5.4.4-13.el5.x86_64 libtdb-1.2.1-5.el5.x86_64 libtdb-devel-1.2.1-5.el5.x86_64 m2crypto-0.16-6.el5.8.x86_64 tdb-tools-1.2.1-5.el5.x86_64 virt-manager-0.6.1-13.el5.x86_64 anaconda different in i386 and x86_64 either both should have to be anaconda-11.1.2.224-1.el5.centos or both should have to be anaconda-11.1.2.224-1.el5.centos.1 in centos version of these packages the dist tag comes from earlier release. even if they are the same package they should have to rebuild with the same dist tag as in rhel (eg: .el5 <-> .el5_4): bogl-0.1.18-13.el5_4 bogl-bterm-0.1.18-13.el5_4 bogl-devel-0.1.18-13.el5_4 ctdb-1.0.112-1.el5_5 ctdb-devel-1.0.112-1.el5_5 gail-1.9.2-3.el5_4 gail-devel-1.9.2-3.el5_4 pax-3.4-2.el5_4 taskjuggler-2.2.0-5.el5_4 vino-2.13.5-9.el5_4 and a lots of updates still missing: cman-2.0.115-68.el5_6.1 conga-0.12.2-24.el5_6.1 dhcp-3.0.5-23.el5_6.4 giflib-4.1.3-7.3.3.el5 glibc-2.5-58.el5_6.2 java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-1.17.b17.el5 java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-1.18.b17.el5 java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-1.20.b17.el5 jwhois-3.2.3-12.el5 kexec-tools-1.102pre-126.el5_6.4 libuser-0.54.7-2.1.el5_5.2 libvirt-0.8.2-15.el5_6.1 mod_nss-1.0.8-4.el5_6.1 opensm-3.3.3-1.el5_6.1 openssh-4.3p2-72.el5_6.3 openswan-2.6.21-5.el5_6.4 pango-1.14.9-8.el5_6.2 paps-0.6.6-20.el5 postfix-2.3.3-2.2.el5_6 quota-3.13-5.el5 screen-4.0.3-4.el5 sed-4.1.5-8.el5 spice-xpi-2.2-2.3.el5_6.1 subversion-1.6.11-7.el5_6.1 subversion-1.6.11-7.el5_6.3 tomcat5-5.5.23-0jpp.17.el5_6 tzdata-2011d-3.el5 w3m-0.5.1-18.el5 wireshark-1.0.15-1.el5_5.3 xorg-x11-font-utils-7.1-3 xulrunner-1.9.2.14-4.el5_6 -- Levente "Si vis pacem para bellum!"

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WebSite V2 - progress
by Marc Laporte 24 Apr '11

24 Apr '11

> The software stack is still up in the air. I personally believe there > will be more then one viable solution. If that's the case, having a > champion or some expertise in the group could end up being the > deciding factor. Hi! I am an admin for Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware, I suggest to take a look: "Tiki is a full-featured, web-based, multilingual (40+ languages), tightly integrated, all-in-one Wiki+CMS+Groupware, Free Source Software (GNU/LGPL), using PHP, MySQL, Zend Framework, jQuery and Smarty. Actively developed by a very large international community, Tiki can be used to create all kinds of Web applications, sites, portals, knowledge bases, intranets, and extranets." Recent interview on FLOSS Weekly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8tjaz6CO3Q It is both similar and different to Drupal. Similar: community-backed general purpose FOSS web app with tons of features. Different: Tiki has scheduled releases, all-in-one model and a wiki-way approach to the whole project. The "Tiki model" consists of: * Wiki community (do-ocracy) * Wiki way participation to the code (475+ with full write access to the complete code base) * Scheduled releases (2 major releases per year) * All-in-one codebase (1 000 000 lines of code, with everything bundled. Each feature is optional) * Inherent synchronized releases (all features have to be ready at the same time) * Lots of features, but no duplication (in a wiki, similar/related content is merged, so the same is applied to features) * Dogfood (Tiki is a community recursively developing a community management system) * Very open community. Everything is discussed. You can read the details here: http://tiki.org/Model It's the FOSS Web application with the most built-in features in the World. I realize the initial reaction is "OMG, how can it be stable? it must be so bloated!". In reality, because everthing is built-in, you just activate what you need. There is virtually no feature duplication and a high collaboration throughout the code-base. In contrast, other major CMS projects have 5000, 6000 or 7000 external modules/extensions and you need to manage the dependencies and compatibility (making upgrades difficult) OpenAtrium is a distribution of Drupal. They pick & choose from the thousands of 3rd party modules to tailor to a specific use case. In Tiki, since the code base for all Tikis is identical, sites can be configured using "Profiles" (community configurations managed in wiki pages): http://profiles.tiki.org/ You have the exact same code base as everyone else in the community, and you can just (de)activate any feature, making your upgrades easy. I realize that you currently have a myriad of apps (and it must be a challenge!) and that won't change overnight. If you want a progressively better integration of the various parts (wiki, portal, bug tracker, forum, etc.), do take a look at Tiki. Tiki has been downloaded over 900 000 times since 2002. I'd be glad to answer any and all questions :-) Best regards, -- Marc Laporte http://tiki.org/Model

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