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CentOS Cloud SIG meeting minutes (2024-04-11)
by Joel Capitao 11 Apr '24

11 Apr '24

====================================================== #centos-meeting: CentOS Cloud SIG meeting (2024-04-11) ====================================================== Meeting started by jcapitao at 15:01:03 UTC. The full logs are available athttps://www.centos.org/minutes/2024/April/centos-meeting.2024-04-11-15.01… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (jcapitao, 15:01:29) * RDO/OpenStack Update (jcapitao, 15:08:43) * RDO is about to release RDO Caracal/2024.1 in a week or so (jcapitao, 15:09:36) * CentOS Stream 8 repos for RDO Releases up to Yoga will be removed and archived in vault.centos.org (jcapitao, 15:44:30) * LINK: https://lists.rdoproject.org/archives/list/dev@lists.rdoproject.org/thread/… (jcapitao, 15:44:51) Meeting ended at 15:52:26 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jcapitao (28) * amoralej (15) * spotz (10) * centguard (5) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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2024-04-10 - CentOS Public Board Meeting
by Thomas Oulevey 09 Apr '24

09 Apr '24

Hi Everyone, Our next board meeting will take place at 20:00 UTC tomorrow `date -d "2024-04-10 20:00 UTC"` If you would like to attend please send me an email to alphacc(a)centosproject.org ( please do not reply to @centos-devel or use another email address) and you will receive a link to a meeting room with a passcode, 1 hour before the meeting takes place. The agenda can be checked at (work in progress) : https://hackmd.io/@centosboard/r1hmwXxe0 As a reminder we will enforce few rules : * Wait to be recognized by the Chair before speaking * Respect the Chair when told your time to speak is over - this will allow us to remain on agenda, and complete the meetings in the allotted time * In the event that there are Board-confidential topics, these will be put at the end of the meeting, in Executive Session, and guests will be asked to leave. We hope to minimize these items, but they do sometimes happen. The most common scenarios in which this may happen are personnel issues, or information that Red Hat wishes to share with the Board, but is not yet public. * Muting of participants, or, in extreme situations, ejection from the meeting, is at the sole discretion of the Chair. * Meetings will be recorded, and published to YouTube (possibly with edits/redaction, as approved by the Directors). Thus, by joining the meeting you consent to have your presence at the meeting, and anything you say during the meeting, made public. I hope some of you can join. thanks, -- Thomas 'alphacc' Oulevey CentOS Board of Directors Secretary alphacc(a)centosproject.org

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[Infra] - Planned outage : lists.centos.org (migration to mailman3) : please read
by Fabian Arrotin 08 Apr '24

08 Apr '24

Due to a needed upgrade , we'll have to move the existing CentOS mailman instance (aka https://lists.centos.org) to a new server/host. Migration is scheduled for """"Tuesday April 8th, 7:00 am UTC time"""". You can convert to local time with $(date -d '2024-04-08 07:00 UTC') The expected "downtime" is estimated to ~60 minutes , time needed to : - take last mailman2 backup - reimport / convert mailman2 archives to mailman3 DB - DNS propagation for A/AAAA/MX records Here are also some important information about the mailman2 => mailman3 migration : # Renamed lists Worth knowing that, based on open discussion on the centos-devel list (see whole thread at https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2024-March/165576.html), existing lists will be *renamed* , so while we'll put aliases for incoming mails, each list member will start receiving list mails from new list name. So start updating your filters if you filter on email address instead of "subject:" Here is the overview of the new lists names : arm-dev at centos.org => arm-dev at lists.centos.org centos at centos.org => discuss at lists.centos.org centos-devel at centos.org => devel at lists.centos.org centos-announce at centos.org => announce at lists.centos.org centos-automotive-sig at centos.org => automotive-sig at lists.centos.org centos-{cz,de,es,fr,nl,pt-br,zh}(a)centos.org => discuss-{cz,de,es,fr,nl,pt-br,zh}(a)lists.centos.org ci-users at centos.org => ci-users at lists.centos.org centos-gsoc: => gsoc at lists.centos.org centos-mirror at centos.org => mirror at lists.centos.org centos-mirror-announce at centos.org => mirror-announce at lists.centos.org centos-newsletter at centos.org => newsletter at lists.centos.org centos-promo at centos.org => promo at lists.centos.org centos-virt at centos.org => virt at lists.centos.org # Authentication Mailman2 had no real concept of authentication so you could just subscribe to one or more lists, and have a password associated with your email address for that/these subscription(s). Mailman3 itself is split into "core" and "webui" components, so when we'll import mailman2 lists/config into mailman3, your existing subscriptions will continue to work *but* not your password. Mailman3 will be configured to support SSO, and so if you already have a FAS/ACO account (https://accounts.centos.org) you'll be able to login directly into new webui and manage your settings/subscriptions *if* your ACO email address of course matches the one you initially subscribed with for lists.centos.org. If that's not the case, either create an ACO/FAS account that will match and you'll be then able to "link" your mailman3 account with FAS and so manage your settings/subscriptions. If you don't want to, there is always the documented process : https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/userguide.html#making-a-mailman-account Thanks for your understanding and patience. on behalf of the Infra team, -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | @arrfab[@fosstodon.org]

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Newer/faster aarch64 koji builders for cbs.centos.org
by Fabian Arrotin 08 Apr '24

08 Apr '24

Just to announce that last week, I replaced (one by one so no downtime from a rpm builds perspective) the older aarch64 builders we had for cbs.centos.org pool , with newer ones/faster ones. In the past, we had a mix of ThunderX/ThunderX2 machines, and these were replaced by newer Ampere Altra machines (Thanks to Ampere for having sponsored one machine and Red Hat sponsored the other ones !) As it was replaced last week, I had a look at some SIGs builds involving aarch64 architectures and compared needed time builds between older platform and newer builders #kernel / kmod SIG before: https://cbs.centos.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3900620 => 30min now: https://cbs.centos.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3901748 => 17min #samba / storage SIG before: https://cbs.centos.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3836506 => 59min now: https://cbs.centos.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3900306 => 13min #kernel-automotive / automotive SIG before: https://cbs.centos.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3894668 => 41min now: https://cbs.centos.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3901722 => 13min Of course, don't take these metrics as "granted" for your future builds (as it depends on number of other concurrently builds, etc) but at least it should be faster than before (including also for the Image tasks) I hope that all SIGs building also for aarch64 will enjoy the new aarch64 builders ! -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | @arrfab[@fosstodon.org]

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AltImages SIG: Announcing new images
by Troy Dawson 05 Apr '24

05 Apr '24

The CentOS Alternative Images SIG[1] has updated their CentOS Stream 9 Live images this quarter. We also added 4 new Live desktop images.[2] We now have * CINNAMON * GNOME * KDE * MATE * XFCE * MAX MAX has all the desktops listed above, plus a few others like IceWM and Lumina. All of these live images can be installed on your system. If there are bugs that are specific to the live images (not just general CentOS Stream bugs) please file an issue in our spins bug tracker.[3] Troy [1] - https://sigs.centos.org/altimages/ [2] - https://mirror.stream.centos.org/SIGs/9-stream/altimages/images/live/ [3] - https://pagure.io/centos-sig-alt-images/spin-bugs/issues

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lists.centos.org migration to mailman3 : RFC !
by Fabian Arrotin 28 Mar '24

28 Mar '24

As mentioned in previous thread about centos 7 EOL, one of the last application that was still running on centos linux 7 is mailman, serving centos lists for a long time now. Thanks to all the hard work done by community contributors (thanks Michel, Neal and others having participated !), there is now a fully functional mailman3 stack available in Epel9. There are still very minor things to do to be 100% ready for a real migration, but we should have a stable .stg. instance deployed very soon. (There is a sandbox instance that is reinstalled / scratched for now) While importing existing lists/archives from mailman2 to mailman3 test instance, there was a discussion (in a Matrix room) about eventually using this migration as an opportunity to rename the lists. For legacy reasons (don't know why as it was even before I joined the project :) ) , lists were created on the same box as MX record for centos.org and so lists were usually called : <lists>@centos.org. The (usual) method is instead to create a dedicate host/sub-domain that will hosts mailling lists, like lists.<domain> and so lists.centos.org (amusingly that's also the hostname we have for the https instance but not for the existing lists) As the discussion was just happening in a Matrix room, and more like a brainstorming session, I thought it would be better (for awareness) to start a real thread on this list, as it's about the future of the list itself :) Some people suggested to rename lists like this : (example): centos-devel(a)centos.org => devel(a)lists.centos.org While technically that seems to work (tested on the import from mailman2 to mailman3) , it would need local aliases so that mails sent to previous address list would just still go to new list (to be tested as I don't know which checks are done by mailman-core now, and SPF, DMARC, DKIM, etc if we just create aliases) This is a RFC (request for comments) thread so let us know what you think .. ideally before we start migrating the real instance :-) Kind Regards, -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | @arrfab[@fosstodon.org]

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Do kmods-kernel-6.1 and -6.6 have a -release package?
by Anthony Alba 17 Mar '24

17 Mar '24

Hi centos-devel, Per the subject: I found a repo file in centos-release-kmods-kernel that references kernel-latest but not -6.1 of -6.6. Are those repos intended to have centos-release-* files? Regards A Alba

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2024-03-13 - CentOS Public Board Meeting
by Thomas Oulevey 12 Mar '24

12 Mar '24

Hi Everyone, Our next board meeting will take place at 21:00 UTC tomorrow `date -d "2024-03-13 21:00 UTC"` Given that some of the board members are traveling, we may not achieve quorum, so we are planning a brief meeting. If you would like to attend please send me an email to alphacc(a)centosproject.org ( please do not reply to @centos-devel or use another email address) and you will receive a link to a meeting room with a passcode, 1 hour before the meeting takes place. The agenda can be checked at (work in progress) : https://hackmd.io/@centosboard/BJ5Xnxapa As a reminder we will enforce few rules : * Wait to be recognized by the Chair before speaking * Respect the Chair when told your time to speak is over - this will allow us to remain on agenda, and complete the meetings in the allotted time * In the event that there are Board-confidential topics, these will be put at the end of the meeting, in Executive Session, and guests will be asked to leave. We hope to minimize these items, but they do sometimes happen. The most common scenarios in which this may happen are personnel issues, or information that Red Hat wishes to share with the Board, but is not yet public. * Muting of participants, or, in extreme situations, ejection from the meeting, is at the sole discretion of the Chair. * Meetings will be recorded, and published to YouTube (possibly with edits/redaction, as approved by the Directors). Thus, by joining the meeting you consent to have your presence at the meeting, and anything you say during the meeting, made public. I hope some of you can join. Sorry for the late announcement. thanks, -- Thomas 'alphacc' Oulevey CentOS Board of Directors Secretary alphacc(a)centosproject.org

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Ruby fails to install in CS9
by Alfredo Moralejo Alonso 06 Mar '24

06 Mar '24

Hi, Latest CentOS Stream compose is failing to install ruby. "dnf install ruby" tries to install modularized 3.1.2-141.module_el9+156+2e0939d1 version and fails with errors: Error: No available modular metadata for modular package Workaround is to specify unmodular version: # sudo dnf install ruby-3.0.4 I've reported it in https://issues.redhat.com/browse/RHEL-28082 Note that if other packages require 3.0 (in RDO case, via automatic dep on "libruby.so.3.0()(64bit)" i.e.) it will just work. Best regards, Alfredo

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flatpak / appstream compat issues?
by Leon Fauster 06 Mar '24

06 Mar '24

Does someone sees this behaviour? $ /usr/bin/flatpak --user remotes Name Optionen fedora oci flathub $ /usr/bin/flatpak --user search testtest F: Failed to parse /srv/home/appuser/.local/share/flatpak/appstream/flathub/x86_64/active/appstream.xml.gz file: Fehler in Zeile 86745, Zeichen 136: <li> already set 'Protection against a common misconfiguration that tends to break apps, the ' and tried to replace with ' development variable' Is EL9's flatpak compatible with flathub appstream data? $ rpm -q flatpak appstream flatpak-1.12.8-1.el9.x86_64 appstream-0.16.1-1.el9.x86_64 Found this: https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/5434 Workaround (vanishes on next update): $ sed 's/<em>//' -i active/appstream.xml $ sed 's/<\/em>//' -i active/appstream.xml $ sed 's/<\/code>//' -i active/appstream.xml $ sed 's/<code>//' -i active/appstream.xml $ gzip -9 -c active/appstream.xml > active/appstream.xml.gz $ /usr/bin/flatpak --user search testtest No matches found -- Leon

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