On 06/26/2014 11:53 PM, Manuel Wolfshant wrote:
On 06/27/2014 12:01 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
On 06/26/2014 07:02 PM, Manuel Wolfshant wrote:
On 06/26/2014 01:02 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
Hi
As in CentOS-6, I think we should skip the CD isos; there is little point in that ( but we should do the minimal ISO, lets keep conversation about that on its own thread ).
I support that. CDs should be phased out, at least as main distribution media. IF there is demand for that, maybe create them and distribute via torrent. But I would not clobber the mirrors with CD-sized ISO images for the main distro
The main distro is just a hint over 6.6GB, that means we cant really put all the stuff into a single DVD[1]; so we need to do the splits. In the past, we've done multiple installs making sure that all the installable components from the installer's groups, in english atleast, are all on DVD#1 and the rest can goto DVD#2. I suspect that strategy will work here as well, and does someone want to give it a shot and come up with a list of rpms that are installable via the installer.
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[1]: maybe we should do a single large 6.6GB ISO as well, and have it available only on torrents, for people who might want or have access to that large format media, or people who just want a copy of the primary repo without using rsync. Thoughts ?
+1 for distributing a single large ISO. A lot of people install from USB sticks and 8GBs ones have become more like a norm than a rarity nowadays. And a 4.7GB iso would not fit on a 4GB stick anyway so a 8GB one would be needed. Which means that the effort for whoever wants to install from a stick would not be "much" ( for a lax definition of much :) ) higher to download a 6.6 GB image instead of a 4.7GB one. I for one would grab the larger one. ... I still have the CentOS 5.7 iso on my phone's SD Card and install from it from time to time.
Although you are right for people with fast internet, there are still thousands of people in undeveloped countries that have pay-by-MB internet, some even only dial-up lines.
So I suggest those CD ISO's to be built, no need to build them in prime-time download frenzy, but they should exist, even if only on some mirrors or in vault (small bandwidth users can not clog the server).
They'd still need to download a bunch of CD images in order to be able to do an install. And at this point they'd rather get the minimal.iso and then use yum to add whatever they need. yum groupinstall <bunch of desktop related groups> will not be more painful than downloading the isos.
I was more referring to CD1, mostly enough to install Desktop/Server and then update/add when they have internet connection.
There was a fair number of people who would pay their "ISP" (in a broad sense of the word) or a friend/company, and then some have slow direct internet connection and others manually download rpm's and install them off-line.
Imagine installing from minimal ISO and then wait hours on dialup to install.
So paying for CD ISO (less money) to be able to install full desktop, and then using slow internet connection for the rest.