Am 18.11.21 um 15:20 schrieb Josh Boyer:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 9:12 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia nkadel@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 7:45 AM Josh Boyer jwboyer@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 7:15 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia nkadel@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 4:46 PM Brian Stinson brian@bstinson.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021, at 14:47, Odilon Junior wrote:
Hi,
As the $SUBJECT says, after the latest release of Centos 8, the Devel[1] repo is not populated.
I can see the packages for 8.4.2105[2]. Is this expected for this latest release?
Regards, Odilon
1 - http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/ 2 - https://vault.centos.org/8.4.2105/Devel/ _______________________________________________ CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
That is expected. Just a reminder CentOS Linux 8 goes End Of Life in December: https://www.centos.org/centos-linux-eol/ please plan accordingly.
I don't think anyone expected this. There was no reason to expect the individual channel to be shut off several months in advance of the EOL of the operating system. It's like moving the family to a new house only after the move announce that the dog is not coming with us.
This breaks working tools, like my tools that backport samba with full and stable Heimdal based Kerberos According to the Samba maintainers, the MIT kerberos used by the latest Fedora releases is not yet well enough integrated for production work, which is why I publish https://github.com/nkadel/samba4repo/ for Fedor and for RHEL releases. But they rely on 'quota-devel' for compilation, which is used by RHEL and CentOS for compiling their more limited versions of Samba but is arbitrarily hidden under tablecloth over in the 'Devel' channel.
quota-devel is available in PowerTools
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/PowerTools/x86_64/os/Packages/quota... http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/PowerTools/x86_64/os/Packages/quota-devel-...
It was previously over in 'Devel', until May as hinted by the RPM timestamps. Try:
mock -r epel-8-x86_64 install quota-develThat works now if the 'Devel' repo is left disabled, but if the 'Devel' repo is enabled, which it was in my "mock" setups due to just this package, it now breaks. That's no longer a direct hindrance, but it left my setups broken yesterday.
I would encourage everyone to ignore the Devel repo. This is an unpopular opinion, but it shouldn't have been created to begin with.
I'm afraid it reinforces my point about arbitrary and software breaking re-arrangements of RPMs. It's part of why some companies and some developers are simply refusing to touch RHEL 8 and CentOS 8.
I can understand your frustration, but in this case someone followed the process to request the package be added in a user facing repository. It wasn't arbitrary, but information about the request and inclusion could be better.
I think that such discussion misses the actual point. It is not about EOL or whatever. Its about communication beforeand and consistency or to use a concept that the audience a very familiar with, its about deterministic behavior.
About the request; maybe all centos bug entries should be filled in the bugzilla of RH (category: _unreleased_devel_pkgs)?
https://bugs.centos.org/view_all_set.php?filter=619675a0165f2&sort_add=c...
@Johnny: Thanks for the effort ...
About ansible:
@Nico: Maybe it is worth to work with Kevin together?
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject...
-- Leon