On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 5:35 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon pingou@pingoured.fr wrote:
On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 06:42:25AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
I'd rather keep mailing lists for development myself. For that, I would suggest moving them to Fedora's instance and leveraging the multi-domain feature so that lists.centos.org goes to Fedora's instance.
Random, stupid, thought: Neal, Fabian and Smooge, you are aware of the issues Fedora has been having with its Mailman 3 instance, partly due to the fact that we were amongst the first to migrate to mm3 which actually ended up giving problems to upgrade down the line.
So here goes crazy: what if there was a new MM3 server built for the CentOS lists and then the remaining Fedora lists would look to be migrated to that same instance? It achieves the same outcome as what's described above: 1 instance, using multi-domains, maintained by 1 team (CPE), for the CentOS and Fedora (and pagure [1]) communities, but in reverse order and possibly giving an "easier" upgrade path to the Fedora instance.
Food for thoughts :)
I wonder if we can make the visual style change depending on the domain you're accessing it from. But otherwise it's basically six one way, half dozen the other. I suspect the plan would be to stand up a brand new instance and do a data migration anyway, since the existing one is kinda held together with silly putty.
I went through a fair bit of pain to clean up the Mailman 3 stack over the years, and it wouldn't surprise me if things were more than a little weird in the current Fedora instance because of some of that early stuff.
Currently, my understanding is that Fedora's instance is set up with the following domains:
* lists.fedoraproject.org * lists.fedorahosted.org * lists.pagure.io
We'd be adding "lists.centos.org" to that pile. We can start in reverse order if we want (centos -> pagure -> fedorahosted -> fedoraproject).
But I do agree that we should see if we can have the appropriate branding show up depending on which domain you visit the Postorius/HyperKitty instances from.
That's more of a question of working the HyperKitty and Postorius theming system more than anything else. :)
We should absolutely migrate people's list subscriptions though. If we can pull it off, their list subscription settings too.
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