On 01/19/2015 05:38 PM, George Dunlap wrote:
At the moment, we're essentially using yum repos as the "patch" mechanism to CentOS Base: SIGs populate a repo with packages they want to add / override, and all other packages default to Base.
The current setup is that every sig has exactly one production repo per CentOS version.
Also, we seem to be wanting to see SIGs not as individual projects, but to make the 'G' an actual "group": so, for instance, the Virt SIG has both Xen and Docker, and we've recently approved oVirt.
But there's a bit of a conflict here: what if one project in the SIG wants to use the package from Base, and another project in the SIG wants to use a custom-built package? Or what if both projects want to customize their packages in different ways?
In particular: the Docker project in the Virt SIG wants to supply updated versions of Docker; but at the moment uses the kernel package from Base. The Xen project, on the other hand, needs to supply a different kernel package that has dom0 support enabled.
Up until this point, this hasn't been an issue because I've been doing Xen development in virt6-testing, and Lokesh has been doing Docker development in virt7-testing. But I'm hoping to get Xen for CentOS 7 out soon, and I was just about to upload the Xen kernel to the CBS, when it occurred to me that if I did so, then everyone using the virt7-testing repo for Docker would suddenly get my updated kernel as well.
Yup, for e.g. in Storage SIG we are going have extra kernel modules , may be a rebuilt kernel in future. So we are having couple of SIGs which are having or going to have modified kernels.
So it seems we have a couple of ways to approach it.
- Keep it one repo per SIG, and make all projects in a SIG sort out
shared dependencies.
Allow one repo per *project* within a SIG (e.g., virt6-xen, virt7-docker)
Have some alternate way of doing a "patch", instead of repos.
In the case of xen / docker, I haven't talked with Lokesh about this at all; it may be that he's fine with sharing a kernel with Xen. But it does increase the workload: now Lokesh needs to maintain the Docker side of the kernel, whereas before they could just rely on our upstream to do a lot of that testing. Furthermore, it increases the complexity of development and testing: before when doing kernel work, I could just test Xen; now the kernel needs to be tested by both Xen and Docker. And finally, now users of both projects get a kernel update whenever either one does.
Which, of course, is pretty much the same as any other distro; but as a whole, at the moment at least, we have a lot less resources than any other distro our size and popularity.
I like #1, even if it is more work. I think it is logical thing to do as SIGs should not conflict with each other when a user consumes them. I mean one of the purpose of SIGs to improve the user experience for consuming stuffs that are not present in CentOS core.
Having different build targets for each SIG I think complicate overall integration of different SIGs. I am sure there would be a lot of use cases when multiple SIGs would be used together.
-Lala
On the whole I'm inclined to prefer #2.
Thoughts?
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