On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 9:19 AM Simon Matter simon.matter@invoca.ch wrote:
On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 7:17 AM Simon Matter simon.matter@invoca.ch wrote:
Am 09.01.24 um 00:52 schrieb John Cooper via CentOS-devel:
Additionally I don’t know how many of you can get or read the PC
Pro
publication. However in one of their issues last year they were providing options for what people can do when Windows 10 comes to
the
end of its support lifecycle.
One of the options was to switch to Linux they only mentioned
Ubuntu
Linux and Linux Mint. Though that doesn’t preclude people
switching
to
RHEL on their ex-Windows 10 computers when that point is reached.
Though
there’s the options of RHEL 8 and RHEL 9 it would be advantageous
in
several respects including environmental ones, to take it into
account
for RHEL 10. It may even be a basis for a conversion campaign
involving
compatible systems that were once Windows 10, to promote
conversion
from
Windows 10 to RHEL 10.
Just think of the irony of going from Windows 10 to RHEL 10 as
your
new
operating system on the computer!
That would be funny but - it seems that RH's agenda does not have a focus on workstation scenarios anymore. Main productivity
applications
are already marked as deprecated. So, they will not be included in
a
future major release:
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/9/htm...
I'm working for a company in the retail business and we're running exclusively on (RH)EL/clones for the lasts decades. Also running
remote
desktops using our own solution based on NX libs. It was a pain to realize that RHEL is drifting away more and more from providing what is
required
in our environment. It became clearer and clearer that our future
road
will go away from RHEL despite maintaining quite a large inhouse repo for all kind of our own packages of software used, from development to normal office to server applications.
None of these packages are a surprise though: Qt 5 is being replaced with Qt 6[1], Motif is dead, Xorg is being replaced with Xwayland[2], LibreOffice transitioned to the community in Fedora in the summer[3], GTK2 is EOL upstream, gedit is replaced with gnome-text-editor[4][5], etc.
If people care about using RHEL as a workstation as customers, they should be making that known through their contacts with Red Hat Sales and Red Hat Support. What I've gathered so far is that this is happening for some of them because they believe customers aren't really using them and so the effort is wasted. Some of them are for other reasons (Motif/GTK2 being dead, Wayland being the future, etc.), but dedicated RHEL workstation priority use-cases are counted through purchases of RHEL subscriptions for that purpose. If you're not doing that, then it's no surprise they think nobody is using them.
What I'd be interested to know is what Red Hat is using internally these days to run their business.
In the past I really thought they may be using their on RHEL product line for their corporate use. But today I start to believe they may probably use the same industry standard crap everybody is using.
Would be really interesting to be a mouse in Red Hat's own offices and headquarters :)
They switched to Fedora for their preferred Linux distribution for workstations last year.
So, their HR, the bean counters in finance, the marketing specialists and graphical designers, they're running on Fedora these days?
Of course Fedora is better suited for such office tasks than EL but on the other side, stability is key in the corporate world, so I'm still a bit wondering how they are doing it with Fedora.
Simon