On Thu, 21 Jul 2011, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 07:37:16PM -0400, Jeff Johnson wrote:
Um, does it matter what Oracle and RedHat are doing?
Only to the extent that without Red Hat, CentOS doesn't exist! :-)
umm ... CentOS is of course an outgrowth sub-project from cAos [admittedly, the poster child success story], which pre-dated RHEL rebuilds, just fine, thank you very much. Founded on discussions of: What if there was no Red Hat Linux
Spinning stabilized enterprise grade distributions is largely a matter of a willingness to lag in a stable branch, and to backport security matters as needed. Boring stuff
The FOSS community predated the upstream's product that CentOS rebuilds sources of ... and the wells of those sources (although partially fed from efforts of the upstream) will continue if the upstream did not exist ...
In IRC today, someone wandered into the main channel looking for a 'later and greater' ImageMagic ... looking at the logs, it took me a bit under 40 minutes (1731 to 1809) to 'freshen' this leaf node package and all BR and R dependencies to a very recent product
How many leaf node package fruit does one really need and use daily, anyway? In the most recent 1000 lines of my history on the laptop I am composing this on, I find:
$ history | awk {'print $2'} | sort | uniq -c | sort -n | wc
is only 85 commands. and most of those are unremarkable or part of bash, or local scriptlets
2 display 2 for 2 kill 2 ks 2 lynx 2 /sbin/ifconfig 2 su 2 thunar 2 /usr/bin/firefox 2 wc 3 echo 3 grep 3 lynxdump 3 ./maple-ide 3 scp 3 unzip 4 eject 4 pwd 4 tail 5 chmod 5 convert 5 history 5 which 6 arduino 6 ./README 6 rpm 7 firefox-charlie 8 gen-pw.sh 8 man 9 ps 11 cp 15 cat 18 mv 18 rm 19 xpdf 22 rpmbuild 27 sudo 28 backup-home-to-net.sh 31 mkdir 38 wget 41 startx 46 less 70 joe 128 ssh 139 ls 190 cd 1000 3111 26659
[I see ImageMagic primitives in that list a couple of times; 'joe' and 'xpdf' are gone from C6, but it does not matter, as I've built them locally for a long time to meet my habituations]
It might not be comfortable for a few months if we needed to live like that transition of no RHL to something, but not the end of the world for people not addicted to the latest and greatest
-- Russ herrold