On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, R P Herrold wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, Charlie Brady wrote:
Jeff, with respect, I don't think you are any more capable of changing the current process from the outside than I am.
heh -- Jeff has consistently 'played fair' even in the face of libel and provocation for far longer than I can count. a person following #rpm and engaging in thoughtful and even vapid communication gets courteous and well written replies.
While I can take your word that this is true, I don't see how that is relevant here. I'm not accusing him of unfair play (or anything else).
You know better than this. Of course he influences already; the build system model I have documented ftp://ftp.owlriver.com/pub/local/ORC/ is in part based on my talking with him about 'beehive' and 'Prospector' http://www.owlriver.com/projects/packaging/reproduceable-builds.txt
Jeff's influence is indeed pervasive. But I maintain that he is not able to enforce change within the CentOS dev team from the outside. And neither am I.
It is time for the CentOS team to speak.
Some choose to not hear the answer (or perhaps not liked it) when I have spoken
I'm not sure whether you are being disingenuous here.
--- Charlie