Hi,
Different people seem to have a different take on what the whole point and aim of the regional / local communities is. I am laying out here what we started with for fr.centos.org and what we hope to use for :
ja.centos.org de.centos.org es.centos.org cn.centos.org
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The first thing really is that these are not regional subsites, they are language based. Which is why its JA.centos.org and not JP.centos.org - if there are other such situations, we would go with the language iso code.
Moving onto the point of this whole exercise. Well the point is to give people who speak and communicate in a specific language a focused CentOS centric starting point and a web forum[1] that they can use. And pointers on where to go for help, documentations, details on the project etc. And this should help provide a means for language teams and translation groups to communicate easier.
Apart from the starting page and forums there will be no other content hosted in the language subsites. All the content would be hosted alongside the regular english content. eg. the way our wiki is setup right now, and how different language translations are handled there.
I know that fr.centos.org was only a pilot and one issue that lots of people pointed out was that it does not look like the other CentOS.org websites. Thats a point taken on board, and none of the other subsites are coming up till the ArtWork guys have a look and feel sorted for the fr.centos.org site. Those guys already have this in their ToDo list.
Now, if you are interested in helping with any of these language lists, please reply to this thread here in the mailing list and let us know.
- KB
[1]: this would / should / could really compliment the language specific mailing lists we have already got in place, perhaps a forum software that can gateway between the two would be nice.
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Karanbir Singh mail-lists@karan.org wrote:
ja.centos.org
Now, if you are interested in helping with any of these language lists, please reply to this thread here in the mailing list and let us know.
I'd like to list the names of the people who have offered to help with ja.centos.org:
Hajime Taira Junya Terazono Tadashi Jokagi
Thanks,
Akemi
Dear Karanbir,
thanks for pointing that out. I am going to offer my help for the German subsites (as I already started translating the Wiki pages) and will join the Artwork SIG (as promised) to help Alain to migrate smoothly. Ralph, it would also be great to have a separate ML for the Artwork SIG.
Best Regards Marcus
I'd like help with br.centos.org if possible.
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Karanbir Singh mail-lists@karan.org wrote:
Hi,
Different people seem to have a different take on what the whole point and aim of the regional / local communities is. I am laying out here what we started with for fr.centos.org and what we hope to use for :
ja.centos.org de.centos.org es.centos.org cn.centos.org
The first thing really is that these are not regional subsites, they are language based. Which is why its JA.centos.org and not JP.centos.org - if there are other such situations, we would go with the language iso code.
Moving onto the point of this whole exercise. Well the point is to give people who speak and communicate in a specific language a focused CentOS centric starting point and a web forum[1] that they can use. And pointers on where to go for help, documentations, details on the project etc. And this should help provide a means for language teams and translation groups to communicate easier.
Apart from the starting page and forums there will be no other content hosted in the language subsites. All the content would be hosted alongside the regular english content. eg. the way our wiki is setup right now, and how different language translations are handled there.
I know that fr.centos.org was only a pilot and one issue that lots of people pointed out was that it does not look like the other CentOS.org websites. Thats a point taken on board, and none of the other subsites are coming up till the ArtWork guys have a look and feel sorted for the fr.centos.org site. Those guys already have this in their ToDo list.
Now, if you are interested in helping with any of these language lists, please reply to this thread here in the mailing list and let us know.
- KB
[1]: this would / should / could really compliment the language specific mailing lists we have already got in place, perhaps a forum software that can gateway between the two would be nice.
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Cleber Paiva de Souza wrote:
I'd like help with br.centos.org if possible.
how different really is pt_BR and pt ?
Yes, there are many differences.
The wikipedia website is more precise (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Portuguese):
[...] The differences between European Portuguese and standard Brazilian Portuguese are comparable to those one might find when comparing British and American English. The Brazilian formal written standard, which is defined by law and international agreements with other Portuguese-speaking countries, is actually very similar to the European one; but there are nevertheless many differences in spelling, lexicon, and grammar. European and Brazilian writers also have markedly different preferences when choosing between supposedly equivalent words or constructs. [...]
The lexicon section also shows some differences examples.
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 6:57 AM, Ralph Angenendt ra+centos@br-online.de wrote:
Karanbir Singh wrote:
Cleber Paiva de Souza wrote:
I'd like help with br.centos.org if possible.
how different really is pt_BR and pt ?
Very. I had rather long talks about that with Rodrigo Barbosa.
Ralph
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Karanbir Singh wrote:
Hi,
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I know that fr.centos.org was only a pilot and one issue that lots of people pointed out was that it does not look like the other CentOS.org websites. Thats a point taken on board, and none of the other subsites are coming up till the ArtWork guys have a look and feel sorted for the fr.centos.org site. Those guys already have this in their ToDo list.
Being involved in the fr.centos.org pilot i can of course help for the other $lang.centos.org. But the question to answer is the following : which forum/portal stuff will be used ? the same we used for fr.centos.org ? Same setup/hierarchy ? a dedicated domU or vhost on the same domU as fr.centos.org ? Please note that regarding Artwork, the guy who designed the fr.centos.org punBB theme (a member of the Fedora project French team) offered to do another one if needed .. of course it would be best if he joined the CentOS Artwork-SIG, which is something i'll ask him to do if Alain and the rest of the Artwork-SIG team has no time to prepare a standard CentOS template for the $lang.centos.org forums ...
Dear Fabian.
Being involved in the fr.centos.org pilot i can of course help for the other $lang.centos.org. But the question to answer is the following : which forum/portal stuff will be used ? the same we used for fr.centos.org ? Same setup/hierarchy ? a dedicated domU or vhost on the same domU as fr.centos.org ? Please note that regarding Artwork, the guy who designed the fr.centos.org punBB theme (a member of the Fedora project French team) offered to do another one if needed .. of course it would be best if he joined the CentOS Artwork-SIG, which is something i'll ask him to do if Alain and the rest of
That would be great. I personally do not really like the fr.centos.org design as it's too colorful in my pov but fresh ideas are always welcome and we could discuss this on a (hopefully upcoming) Artwork ML.
the Artwork-SIG team has no time to prepare a standard CentOS template for the $lang.centos.org forums ...
I don't think it's (only) a question of time but a question of choice. The design needs to scale on different screen sizes and should be used throughout the whole website and subsites to offer a consistent look and feel. As the CentOS websites are very content oriented it should be eye friendly, as is the current .org and wiki pages are. A subsite should look nearly like the main site, so it's also suggested to use the same software. So Karanbir, please let us know which backend cms and forum software you are willed to use and to maintain and if the main site should be migrated, too?
Otherwise we need to make sure that the theme on main and subsites look nearly the same.
Best Regards Marcus
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Ralph Angenendt