Hi Team,
Some more queries:
Question 1: We have checked and found the package(anaconda) which is available on https://git.centos.org/ has two branches c8 and c8s. The version of anaconda package on c8 branch and the rpm version of anaconda package available on vault and redhat are same.
But we have also found The package available in c8s branch does not exist on vault and redhat why ?
In future the c8 will not exist and packages will be available in c8s. If the package will not be available on c8s so we should consider that the package is not developed yet ?? So how to handle this case please assist here as soon as possible.
Question 2: We have seen a case where c8 branch does not exist but the package has c8-stream-x. So we would like to know what is the difference between c8s and c8-stream-x ? And we have found the package which is available on c8-stream-x the same package package is available on vault and redhat ? So in future we know c8 wont exist so from which branch we need to clone the package ??
-Br Swati
-----Original Message----- From: Neal Gompa ngompa13@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 7:06 PM To: Agarwal, Swati Swati.Agarwal@harman.com; The CentOS developers mailing list. centos-devel@centos.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [CentOS-devel] CentOS 8 Stream Migration from CentOS 8 Linux
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On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 6:25 AM Agarwal, Swati via CentOS-devel centos-devel@centos.org wrote:
Dear CentOS Team,
This is regarding latest notification released for CentOS 8 stream replacement from CentOS 8 Linux.
We have some queries in which we need your inputs as we have many Clients using CentOS 8 Linux on their production environments:
The packages which are available in Centos 8, will the same packages be available in Centos stream 8 ?
CentOS Stream 8 is the same package collection as the previous CentOS Linux 8, just receiving updates continuously rather than waiting for large drops every six to eight months.
RHEL is doing some CVE fixes for Centos 8 and they have given temporary fixes so RHEL will push those fixes in Centos Stream 8 and what will be their impacts ?
Proper fixes verified by RHEL QA will be pushed to CentOS Stream, built and released after passing the CentOS test suite as they were previously for CentOS Linux.
We have upgraded from Centos 8 to Centos stream 8 by following the steps below. a.) dnf install centos-release-stream
b.) dnf swap centos-{linux,stream}-repos
c.) dnf distro-sync
d.) cat /etc/centos-releas Expected output : CentOS Stream release 8. Did we miss anything ?
Nope, that's correct. You're in good shape. :)
Suppose if RHEL is developing a package so it won't be available in CentOS Stream 8 and if it is available then what will be the impact ?
This is not a situation that is intended to happen, with the exception of Red Hat branding packages (redhat-release, redhat-logos). So for pretty much everyone, this should have no actual impact.
After upgrading from Centos8 Linux to CentOS Stream release 8, can we compare the versions of packages before & after and see which got updated
using # rpm -qa
I suppose you could. I'm not sure how it would get broken?
After CentOS stream, what will vault.centos.org show ? Also, will it be same as shown in access.redhat.com/downloads/packages from RedHat ?
https://clicktime.symantec.com/3VkBAQCQo6xcbBQWkuBjCkB7Vc?u=https%3A%2 F%2Faccess.redhat.com%2Fdownloads%2Fcontent%2F69%2Fver%3D%2Frhel---7%2 F7.9%2Fx86_64%2Fpackages https://clicktime.symantec.com/3HTK9vtmFiTacwg5Tk1281C7Vc?u=https%3A%2 F%2Fvault.centos.org%2F7.7.1908%2Fos%2FSource%2FSPackages%2F
The Packages that are currently shown in access.redhat.com/downloads/packages or vault.centos.org are officially released ones. After CentOS Stream for CentOS8, the Packages shown in access.redhat.com/downloads/packages or vault.centos.org would be Beta releases or Officially released ones ?
I hope that eventually vault.centos.org will have SRPMs published at https://clicktime.symantec.com/3GFjPUMwJMmXYjUNqXRCwD67Vc?u=https%3A%2F%2Fva... for CentOS Stream 8, but currently the canonical sources are only published to git.centos.org, where you can checkout the sources (use the c8s branch for repos in the rpms/ namespace) and rebuild the packages.
Red Hat Customer Center publishes RPMs and SRPMs for RHEL, the CentOS Vault is where SRPMs for CentOS are published. From that perspective, they are "officially released". There's no other meaningful distinction.
Please help us to answer above questions.
Hopefully these answers help!
-- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!
Can anyone from CentOS Team help me in answering below queries ??
Hi Team,
Some more queries:
Question 1: We have checked and found the package(anaconda) which is available on https://git.centos.org/ has two branches c8 and c8s. The version of anaconda package on c8 branch and the rpm version of anaconda package available on vault and redhat are same.
But we have also found The package available in c8s branch does not exist on vault and redhat why ?
In future the c8 will not exist and packages will be available in c8s. If the package will not be available on c8s so we should consider that the package is not developed yet ?? So how to handle this case please assist here as soon as possible.
Question 2: We have seen a case where c8 branch does not exist but the package has c8-stream-x. So we would like to know what is the difference between c8s and c8-stream-x ? And we have found the package which is available on c8-stream-x the same package package is available on vault and redhat ? So in future we know c8 wont exist so from which branch we need to clone the package ??
-Br Swati
-----Original Message----- From: Neal Gompa ngompa13@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 7:06 PM To: Agarwal, Swati Swati.Agarwal@harman.com; The CentOS developers mailing list. centos-devel@centos.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [CentOS-devel] CentOS 8 Stream Migration from CentOS 8 Linux
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On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 6:25 AM Agarwal, Swati via CentOS-devel centos-devel@centos.org wrote:
Dear CentOS Team,
This is regarding latest notification released for CentOS 8 stream replacement from CentOS 8 Linux.
We have some queries in which we need your inputs as we have many Clients using CentOS 8 Linux on their production environments:
The packages which are available in Centos 8, will the same packages be available in Centos stream 8 ?
CentOS Stream 8 is the same package collection as the previous CentOS Linux 8, just receiving updates continuously rather than waiting for large drops every six to eight months.
RHEL is doing some CVE fixes for Centos 8 and they have given temporary fixes so RHEL will push those fixes in Centos Stream 8 and what will be their impacts ?
Proper fixes verified by RHEL QA will be pushed to CentOS Stream, built and released after passing the CentOS test suite as they were previously for CentOS Linux.
We have upgraded from Centos 8 to Centos stream 8 by following the steps below. a.) dnf install centos-release-stream
b.) dnf swap centos-{linux,stream}-repos
c.) dnf distro-sync
d.) cat /etc/centos-releas Expected output : CentOS Stream release 8. Did we miss anything ?
Nope, that's correct. You're in good shape. :)
Suppose if RHEL is developing a package so it won't be available in CentOS Stream 8 and if it is available then what will be the impact ?
This is not a situation that is intended to happen, with the exception of Red Hat branding packages (redhat-release, redhat-logos). So for pretty much everyone, this should have no actual impact.
After upgrading from Centos8 Linux to CentOS Stream release 8, can we compare the versions of packages before & after and see which got updated
using # rpm -qa
I suppose you could. I'm not sure how it would get broken?
After CentOS stream, what will vault.centos.org show ? Also, will it be same as shown in access.redhat.com/downloads/packages from RedHat ?
https://clicktime.symantec.com/3VkBAQCQo6xcbBQWkuBjCkB7Vc?u=https%3A%2 F%2Faccess.redhat.com%2Fdownloads%2Fcontent%2F69%2Fver%3D%2Frhel---7%2 F7.9%2Fx86_64%2Fpackages https://clicktime.symantec.com/3HTK9vtmFiTacwg5Tk1281C7Vc?u=https%3A%2 F%2Fvault.centos.org%2F7.7.1908%2Fos%2FSource%2FSPackages%2F
The Packages that are currently shown in access.redhat.com/downloads/packages or vault.centos.org are officially released ones. After CentOS Stream for CentOS8, the Packages shown in access.redhat.com/downloads/packages or vault.centos.org would be Beta releases or Officially released ones ?
I hope that eventually vault.centos.org will have SRPMs published at https://clicktime.symantec.com/3GFjPUMwJMmXYjUNqXRCwD67Vc?u=https%3A%2F%2Fva... for CentOS Stream 8, but currently the canonical sources are only published to git.centos.org, where you can checkout the sources (use the c8s branch for repos in the rpms/ namespace) and rebuild the packages.
Red Hat Customer Center publishes RPMs and SRPMs for RHEL, the CentOS Vault is where SRPMs for CentOS are published. From that perspective, they are "officially released". There's no other meaningful distinction.
Please help us to answer above questions.
Hopefully these answers help!
-- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!
On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 5:23 AM Agarwal, Swati via CentOS-devel centos-devel@centos.org wrote:
Hi Team,
Some more queries:
Question 1: We have checked and found the package(anaconda) which is available on https://git.centos.org/ has two branches c8 and c8s. The version of anaconda package on c8 branch and the rpm version of anaconda package available on vault and redhat are same.
But we have also found The package available in c8s branch does not exist on vault and redhat why ?
In future the c8 will not exist and packages will be available in c8s. If the package will not be available on c8s so we should consider that the package is not developed yet ?? So how to handle this case please assist here as soon as possible.
This was already answered. Source RPMs are not yet published for CentOS Stream 8 to vault.centos.org, though hopefully that will change soon.
Question 2: We have seen a case where c8 branch does not exist but the package has c8-stream-x. So we would like to know what is the difference between c8s and c8-stream-x ? And we have found the package which is available on c8-stream-x the same package package is available on vault and redhat ? So in future we know c8 wont exist so from which branch we need to clone the package ??
c8 and c8-stream-* branches are for CentOS Linux 8, c8s and c8s-stream-* branches are for CentOS Stream 8.
-Br Swati
-----Original Message----- From: Neal Gompa ngompa13@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 7:06 PM To: Agarwal, Swati Swati.Agarwal@harman.com; The CentOS developers mailing list. centos-devel@centos.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [CentOS-devel] CentOS 8 Stream Migration from CentOS 8 Linux
CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender. Please report any suspicious content by using the "Report Email" tool.
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 6:25 AM Agarwal, Swati via CentOS-devel centos-devel@centos.org wrote:
Dear CentOS Team,
This is regarding latest notification released for CentOS 8 stream replacement from CentOS 8 Linux.
We have some queries in which we need your inputs as we have many Clients using CentOS 8 Linux on their production environments:
The packages which are available in Centos 8, will the same packages be available in Centos stream 8 ?
CentOS Stream 8 is the same package collection as the previous CentOS Linux 8, just receiving updates continuously rather than waiting for large drops every six to eight months.
RHEL is doing some CVE fixes for Centos 8 and they have given temporary fixes so RHEL will push those fixes in Centos Stream 8 and what will be their impacts ?
Proper fixes verified by RHEL QA will be pushed to CentOS Stream, built and released after passing the CentOS test suite as they were previously for CentOS Linux.
We have upgraded from Centos 8 to Centos stream 8 by following the steps below. a.) dnf install centos-release-stream
b.) dnf swap centos-{linux,stream}-repos
c.) dnf distro-sync
d.) cat /etc/centos-releas Expected output : CentOS Stream release 8. Did we miss anything ?
Nope, that's correct. You're in good shape. :)
Suppose if RHEL is developing a package so it won't be available in CentOS Stream 8 and if it is available then what will be the impact ?
This is not a situation that is intended to happen, with the exception of Red Hat branding packages (redhat-release, redhat-logos). So for pretty much everyone, this should have no actual impact.
After upgrading from Centos8 Linux to CentOS Stream release 8, can we compare the versions of packages before & after and see which got updated
using # rpm -qa
I suppose you could. I'm not sure how it would get broken?
After CentOS stream, what will vault.centos.org show ? Also, will it be same as shown in access.redhat.com/downloads/packages from RedHat ?
https://clicktime.symantec.com/3VkBAQCQo6xcbBQWkuBjCkB7Vc?u=https%3A%2 F%2Faccess.redhat.com%2Fdownloads%2Fcontent%2F69%2Fver%3D%2Frhel---7%2 F7.9%2Fx86_64%2Fpackages https://clicktime.symantec.com/3HTK9vtmFiTacwg5Tk1281C7Vc?u=https%3A%2 F%2Fvault.centos.org%2F7.7.1908%2Fos%2FSource%2FSPackages%2F
The Packages that are currently shown in access.redhat.com/downloads/packages or vault.centos.org are officially released ones. After CentOS Stream for CentOS8, the Packages shown in access.redhat.com/downloads/packages or vault.centos.org would be Beta releases or Officially released ones ?
I hope that eventually vault.centos.org will have SRPMs published at https://clicktime.symantec.com/3GFjPUMwJMmXYjUNqXRCwD67Vc?u=https%3A%2F%2Fva... for CentOS Stream 8, but currently the canonical sources are only published to git.centos.org, where you can checkout the sources (use the c8s branch for repos in the rpms/ namespace) and rebuild the packages.
Red Hat Customer Center publishes RPMs and SRPMs for RHEL, the CentOS Vault is where SRPMs for CentOS are published. From that perspective, they are "officially released". There's no other meaningful distinction.
Please help us to answer above questions.
Hopefully these answers help!
-- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
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