Hello Everyone,
I'm from IBM China Development Team and I'm working on a new initiative that plan to enable a "*minimized*" or "full" CentOS operating system on IBM LinuxONE / IBM System Z (s390x architect).
The reason why we start this topic is we are trying to contribute to the RDO community with our OpenStack build on LInuxONE. We have successfully finished the build job for OpenStack Train Version on LinuxONE and passed the basic function verification tests recently. Now, we already have a link for worldwide users & fans to reference for their needs. For "official official" contributing to the RDO community, community admin stated that a TripleO CI env is a must for community release criteria and the OpenStack packages need to be built in the CentOS build system which run on s390x arch.
So, we turn to here for help, we know CentOS community ever had releases for s390x arch but for whatever reasons finally stopped for update. We want to take this opportunity to enable it up again and therefore want to know about the overall processes, skills required, hardware requirements, manpowers and duration estimated and which parts need IBM's team's input, etc.
Our target is to enable at least a *"minimized" CentOS* (which can support the OpenStack CI work), is there a SIG fit for this purpose? or a "full" CentOS with default feature sets.
Could anybody kindly give us some clue to start this journey?
Thanks everyone in advance!
The Howto of OpenStack Train Installation on IBM LinuxONE had been merged to the RDO official website.
https://www.rdoproject.org/install/
From: Karanbir Singh kbsingh@centos.org To: David Edelsohn edelsohn@us.ibm.com Date: 05/17/2018 11:17 PM Subject: Re: CentOS on Z-Series
Hi David,
We wont need ClefOS to do the bootstrap, we'd want to do it the same way as we did the power bringup and the arm-server etc just to keep the baseline intact and work from there up.
-----
The plan from the IBMer who had bootstrapped CentOS on PPC64LE Linux was:
I just spoke a bit with Jim Perrins (Evolution on irc) and got the go ahead to use ClefOS to speed up the bootstrap. I think I’ll stop asking questions and get to work quietly before Karanbir Singh tells me I have to use old Fedora 19 s390x rpms to bootstrap and build everything from CentOS 7.0 -> 7.1 -> 7.2 -> 7.3 -> 7.4 -> 7.5
I will build CentOS 7.5.1804 s390x/s390 will a small backing of ClefOS rpms, and then rebuild CentOS 7.5.1804 s390x/s390 cleanly with itself. At some point I”ll need to get the LinuxOne VMs reinstalled with my CentOS code for the final rebuild and then turn things over to CentOS guys to gpg sign and publish.
-----
The IBMer then was instructed to not help Z. And the CentOS work never was staffed within IBM.
- David
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 3:49 AM FuLong Wang fulwang@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I'm from IBM China Development Team and I'm working on a new initiative that plan to enable a "minimized" or "full" CentOS operating system on IBM LinuxONE / IBM System Z (s390x architect).
The reason why we start this topic is we are trying to contribute to the RDO community with our OpenStack build on LInuxONE. We have successfully finished the build job for OpenStack Train Version on LinuxONE and passed the basic function verification tests recently. Now, we already have a link for worldwide users & fans to reference for their needs. For "official official" contributing to the RDO community, community admin stated that a TripleO CI env is a must for community release criteria and the OpenStack packages need to be built in the CentOS build system which run on s390x arch.
So, we turn to here for help, we know CentOS community ever had releases for s390x arch but for whatever reasons finally stopped for update. We want to take this opportunity to enable it up again and therefore want to know about the overall processes, skills required, hardware requirements, manpowers and duration estimated and which parts need IBM's team's input, etc.
Our target is to enable at least a "minimized" CentOS (which can support the OpenStack CI work), is there a SIG fit for this purpose? or a "full" CentOS with default feature sets.
Could anybody kindly give us some clue to start this journey?
Thanks everyone in advance!
The Howto of OpenStack Train Installation on IBM LinuxONE had been merged to the RDO official website.
https://www.rdoproject.org/install/
-- FuLong Wang fulong.wang@cn.ibm.com IBM China Systems Lab, Beijing, China _______________________________________________
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
What does this mean? Does this mean we aren't going to do a s390x for CentOS 8? Does it mean we are going to do it, and have a plan?
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 6:26 AM David Edelsohn dje.gcc@gmail.com wrote:
From: Karanbir Singh kbsingh@centos.org To: David Edelsohn edelsohn@us.ibm.com Date: 05/17/2018 11:17 PM Subject: Re: CentOS on Z-Series
Hi David,
We wont need ClefOS to do the bootstrap, we'd want to do it the same way as we did the power bringup and the arm-server etc just to keep the baseline intact and work from there up.
The plan from the IBMer who had bootstrapped CentOS on PPC64LE Linux was:
I just spoke a bit with Jim Perrins (Evolution on irc) and got the go ahead to use ClefOS to speed up the bootstrap. I think I’ll stop asking questions and get to work quietly before Karanbir Singh tells me I have to use old Fedora 19 s390x rpms to bootstrap and build everything from CentOS 7.0 -> 7.1 -> 7.2 -> 7.3 -> 7.4 -> 7.5
I will build CentOS 7.5.1804 s390x/s390 will a small backing of ClefOS rpms, and then rebuild CentOS 7.5.1804 s390x/s390 cleanly with itself. At some point I”ll need to get the LinuxOne VMs reinstalled with my CentOS code for the final rebuild and then turn things over to CentOS guys to gpg sign and publish.
The IBMer then was instructed to not help Z. And the CentOS work never was staffed within IBM.
- David
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 3:49 AM FuLong Wang fulwang@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I'm from IBM China Development Team and I'm working on a new initiative that plan to enable a "minimized" or "full" CentOS operating system on IBM LinuxONE / IBM System Z (s390x architect).
The reason why we start this topic is we are trying to contribute to the RDO community with our OpenStack build on LInuxONE. We have successfully finished the build job for OpenStack Train Version on LinuxONE and passed the basic function verification tests recently. Now, we already have a link for worldwide users & fans to reference for their needs. For "official official" contributing to the RDO community, community admin stated that a TripleO CI env is a must for community release criteria and the OpenStack packages need to be built in the CentOS build system which run on s390x arch.
So, we turn to here for help, we know CentOS community ever had releases for s390x arch but for whatever reasons finally stopped for update. We want to take this opportunity to enable it up again and therefore want to know about the overall processes, skills required, hardware requirements, manpowers and duration estimated and which parts need IBM's team's input, etc.
Our target is to enable at least a "minimized" CentOS (which can support the OpenStack CI work), is there a SIG fit for this purpose? or a "full" CentOS with default feature sets.
Could anybody kindly give us some clue to start this journey?
Thanks everyone in advance!
The Howto of OpenStack Train Installation on IBM LinuxONE had been merged to the RDO official website.
https://www.rdoproject.org/install/
-- FuLong Wang fulong.wang@cn.ibm.com IBM China Systems Lab, Beijing, China _______________________________________________
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
Sorry, I replied to the wrong thread.
FuLong is trying to restart the CentOS on s390x effort and we are trying to determine the technical steps to initiate a bootstrap. I reported the plan from 2018.
Thanks, David
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:36 AM Troy Dawson tdawson@redhat.com wrote:
What does this mean? Does this mean we aren't going to do a s390x for CentOS 8? Does it mean we are going to do it, and have a plan?
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 6:26 AM David Edelsohn dje.gcc@gmail.com wrote:
From: Karanbir Singh kbsingh@centos.org To: David Edelsohn edelsohn@us.ibm.com Date: 05/17/2018 11:17 PM Subject: Re: CentOS on Z-Series
Hi David,
We wont need ClefOS to do the bootstrap, we'd want to do it the same way as we did the power bringup and the arm-server etc just to keep the baseline intact and work from there up.
The plan from the IBMer who had bootstrapped CentOS on PPC64LE Linux was:
I just spoke a bit with Jim Perrins (Evolution on irc) and got the go ahead to use ClefOS to speed up the bootstrap. I think I’ll stop asking questions and get to work quietly before Karanbir Singh tells me I have to use old Fedora 19 s390x rpms to bootstrap and build everything from CentOS 7.0 -> 7.1 -> 7.2 -> 7.3 -> 7.4 -> 7.5
I will build CentOS 7.5.1804 s390x/s390 will a small backing of ClefOS rpms, and then rebuild CentOS 7.5.1804 s390x/s390 cleanly with itself. At some point I”ll need to get the LinuxOne VMs reinstalled with my CentOS code for the final rebuild and then turn things over to CentOS guys to gpg sign and publish.
The IBMer then was instructed to not help Z. And the CentOS work never was staffed within IBM.
- David
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 3:49 AM FuLong Wang fulwang@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I'm from IBM China Development Team and I'm working on a new initiative that plan to enable a "minimized" or "full" CentOS operating system on IBM LinuxONE / IBM System Z (s390x architect).
The reason why we start this topic is we are trying to contribute to the RDO community with our OpenStack build on LInuxONE. We have successfully finished the build job for OpenStack Train Version on LinuxONE and passed the basic function verification tests recently. Now, we already have a link for worldwide users & fans to reference for their needs. For "official official" contributing to the RDO community, community admin stated that a TripleO CI env is a must for community release criteria and the OpenStack packages need to be built in the CentOS build system which run on s390x arch.
So, we turn to here for help, we know CentOS community ever had releases for s390x arch but for whatever reasons finally stopped for update. We want to take this opportunity to enable it up again and therefore want to know about the overall processes, skills required, hardware requirements, manpowers and duration estimated and which parts need IBM's team's input, etc.
Our target is to enable at least a "minimized" CentOS (which can support the OpenStack CI work), is there a SIG fit for this purpose? or a "full" CentOS with default feature sets.
Could anybody kindly give us some clue to start this journey?
Thanks everyone in advance!
The Howto of OpenStack Train Installation on IBM LinuxONE had been merged to the RDO official website.
https://www.rdoproject.org/install/
-- FuLong Wang fulong.wang@cn.ibm.com IBM China Systems Lab, Beijing, China _______________________________________________
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
Thanks for the clarification. And thanks to FuLong, and any others helping in this effort.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 6:41 AM David Edelsohn dje.gcc@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry, I replied to the wrong thread.
FuLong is trying to restart the CentOS on s390x effort and we are trying to determine the technical steps to initiate a bootstrap. I reported the plan from 2018.
Thanks, David
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:36 AM Troy Dawson tdawson@redhat.com wrote:
What does this mean? Does this mean we aren't going to do a s390x for CentOS 8? Does it mean we are going to do it, and have a plan?
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 6:26 AM David Edelsohn dje.gcc@gmail.com wrote:
From: Karanbir Singh kbsingh@centos.org To: David Edelsohn edelsohn@us.ibm.com Date: 05/17/2018 11:17 PM Subject: Re: CentOS on Z-Series
Hi David,
We wont need ClefOS to do the bootstrap, we'd want to do it the same way as we did the power bringup and the arm-server etc just to keep the baseline intact and work from there up.
The plan from the IBMer who had bootstrapped CentOS on PPC64LE Linux was:
I just spoke a bit with Jim Perrins (Evolution on irc) and got the go ahead to use ClefOS to speed up the bootstrap. I think I’ll stop asking questions and get to work quietly before Karanbir Singh tells me I have to use old Fedora 19 s390x rpms to bootstrap and build everything from CentOS 7.0 -> 7.1 -> 7.2 -> 7.3 -> 7.4 -> 7.5
I will build CentOS 7.5.1804 s390x/s390 will a small backing of ClefOS rpms, and then rebuild CentOS 7.5.1804 s390x/s390 cleanly with itself. At some point I”ll need to get the LinuxOne VMs reinstalled with my CentOS code for the final rebuild and then turn things over to CentOS guys to gpg sign and publish.
The IBMer then was instructed to not help Z. And the CentOS work never was staffed within IBM.
- David
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 3:49 AM FuLong Wang fulwang@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I'm from IBM China Development Team and I'm working on a new initiative that plan to enable a "minimized" or "full" CentOS operating system on IBM LinuxONE / IBM System Z (s390x architect).
The reason why we start this topic is we are trying to contribute to the RDO community with our OpenStack build on LInuxONE. We have successfully finished the build job for OpenStack Train Version on LinuxONE and passed the basic function verification tests recently. Now, we already have a link for worldwide users & fans to reference for their needs. For "official official" contributing to the RDO community, community admin stated that a TripleO CI env is a must for community release criteria and the OpenStack packages need to be built in the CentOS build system which run on s390x arch.
So, we turn to here for help, we know CentOS community ever had releases for s390x arch but for whatever reasons finally stopped for update. We want to take this opportunity to enable it up again and therefore want to know about the overall processes, skills required, hardware requirements, manpowers and duration estimated and which parts need IBM's team's input, etc.
Our target is to enable at least a "minimized" CentOS (which can support the OpenStack CI work), is there a SIG fit for this purpose? or a "full" CentOS with default feature sets.
Could anybody kindly give us some clue to start this journey?
Thanks everyone in advance!
The Howto of OpenStack Train Installation on IBM LinuxONE had been merged to the RDO official website.
https://www.rdoproject.org/install/
-- FuLong Wang fulong.wang@cn.ibm.com IBM China Systems Lab, Beijing, China _______________________________________________
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
Part of the challenge around this has been in "how to get resources". We're in the process of trying to get access to some Z-series gear, for a variety of technical detail minutia it's taking a little while. I'm happy to discuss this off-list.
On 3/19/20 7:05 AM, Troy Dawson wrote:
Thanks for the clarification. And thanks to FuLong, and any others helping in this effort.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 6:41 AM David Edelsohn dje.gcc@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry, I replied to the wrong thread.
FuLong is trying to restart the CentOS on s390x effort and we are trying to determine the technical steps to initiate a bootstrap. I reported the plan from 2018.
Thanks, David
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:36 AM Troy Dawson tdawson@redhat.com wrote:
What does this mean? Does this mean we aren't going to do a s390x for CentOS 8? Does it mean we are going to do it, and have a plan?
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 6:26 AM David Edelsohn dje.gcc@gmail.com wrote:
From: Karanbir Singh kbsingh@centos.org To: David Edelsohn edelsohn@us.ibm.com Date: 05/17/2018 11:17 PM Subject: Re: CentOS on Z-Series
Hi David,
We wont need ClefOS to do the bootstrap, we'd want to do it the same way as we did the power bringup and the arm-server etc just to keep the baseline intact and work from there up.
The plan from the IBMer who had bootstrapped CentOS on PPC64LE Linux was:
I just spoke a bit with Jim Perrins (Evolution on irc) and got the go ahead to use ClefOS to speed up the bootstrap. I think I’ll stop asking questions and get to work quietly before Karanbir Singh tells me I have to use old Fedora 19 s390x rpms to bootstrap and build everything from CentOS 7.0 -> 7.1 -> 7.2 -> 7.3 -> 7.4 -> 7.5
I will build CentOS 7.5.1804 s390x/s390 will a small backing of ClefOS rpms, and then rebuild CentOS 7.5.1804 s390x/s390 cleanly with itself. At some point I”ll need to get the LinuxOne VMs reinstalled with my CentOS code for the final rebuild and then turn things over to CentOS guys to gpg sign and publish.
The IBMer then was instructed to not help Z. And the CentOS work never was staffed within IBM.
- David
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 3:49 AM FuLong Wang fulwang@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I'm from IBM China Development Team and I'm working on a new initiative that plan to enable a "minimized" or "full" CentOS operating system on IBM LinuxONE / IBM System Z (s390x architect).
The reason why we start this topic is we are trying to contribute to the RDO community with our OpenStack build on LInuxONE. We have successfully finished the build job for OpenStack Train Version on LinuxONE and passed the basic function verification tests recently. Now, we already have a link for worldwide users & fans to reference for their needs. For "official official" contributing to the RDO community, community admin stated that a TripleO CI env is a must for community release criteria and the OpenStack packages need to be built in the CentOS build system which run on s390x arch.
So, we turn to here for help, we know CentOS community ever had releases for s390x arch but for whatever reasons finally stopped for update. We want to take this opportunity to enable it up again and therefore want to know about the overall processes, skills required, hardware requirements, manpowers and duration estimated and which parts need IBM's team's input, etc.
Our target is to enable at least a "minimized" CentOS (which can support the OpenStack CI work), is there a SIG fit for this purpose? or a "full" CentOS with default feature sets.
Could anybody kindly give us some clue to start this journey?
Thanks everyone in advance!
The Howto of OpenStack Train Installation on IBM LinuxONE had been merged to the RDO official website.
https://www.rdoproject.org/install/
-- FuLong Wang fulong.wang@cn.ibm.com IBM China Systems Lab, Beijing, China _______________________________________________
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
Hi, Jim
The resources is not a problem. I had allocated two raw z/VMs at Marist in 2018 and the developer was working on it until told to stop.
The challenge is a person knowledgeable with CentOS bootstrap and s390x.
Thanks, David
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 10:21 AM Jim Perrin jperrin@centos.org wrote:
Part of the challenge around this has been in "how to get resources". We're in the process of trying to get access to some Z-series gear, for a variety of technical detail minutia it's taking a little while. I'm happy to discuss this off-list.
On 3/19/20 7:05 AM, Troy Dawson wrote:
Thanks for the clarification. And thanks to FuLong, and any others helping in this effort.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 6:41 AM David Edelsohn dje.gcc@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry, I replied to the wrong thread.
FuLong is trying to restart the CentOS on s390x effort and we are trying to determine the technical steps to initiate a bootstrap. I reported the plan from 2018.
Thanks, David
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:36 AM Troy Dawson tdawson@redhat.com wrote:
What does this mean? Does this mean we aren't going to do a s390x for CentOS 8? Does it mean we are going to do it, and have a plan?
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 6:26 AM David Edelsohn dje.gcc@gmail.com wrote:
From: Karanbir Singh kbsingh@centos.org To: David Edelsohn edelsohn@us.ibm.com Date: 05/17/2018 11:17 PM Subject: Re: CentOS on Z-Series
Hi David,
We wont need ClefOS to do the bootstrap, we'd want to do it the same way as we did the power bringup and the arm-server etc just to keep the baseline intact and work from there up.
The plan from the IBMer who had bootstrapped CentOS on PPC64LE Linux was:
I just spoke a bit with Jim Perrins (Evolution on irc) and got the go ahead to use ClefOS to speed up the bootstrap. I think I’ll stop asking questions and get to work quietly before Karanbir Singh tells me I have to use old Fedora 19 s390x rpms to bootstrap and build everything from CentOS 7.0 -> 7.1 -> 7.2 -> 7.3 -> 7.4 -> 7.5
I will build CentOS 7.5.1804 s390x/s390 will a small backing of ClefOS rpms, and then rebuild CentOS 7.5.1804 s390x/s390 cleanly with itself. At some point I”ll need to get the LinuxOne VMs reinstalled with my CentOS code for the final rebuild and then turn things over to CentOS guys to gpg sign and publish.
The IBMer then was instructed to not help Z. And the CentOS work never was staffed within IBM.
- David
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 3:49 AM FuLong Wang fulwang@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I'm from IBM China Development Team and I'm working on a new initiative that plan to enable a "minimized" or "full" CentOS operating system on IBM LinuxONE / IBM System Z (s390x architect).
The reason why we start this topic is we are trying to contribute to the RDO community with our OpenStack build on LInuxONE. We have successfully finished the build job for OpenStack Train Version on LinuxONE and passed the basic function verification tests recently. Now, we already have a link for worldwide users & fans to reference for their needs. For "official official" contributing to the RDO community, community admin stated that a TripleO CI env is a must for community release criteria and the OpenStack packages need to be built in the CentOS build system which run on s390x arch.
So, we turn to here for help, we know CentOS community ever had releases for s390x arch but for whatever reasons finally stopped for update. We want to take this opportunity to enable it up again and therefore want to know about the overall processes, skills required, hardware requirements, manpowers and duration estimated and which parts need IBM's team's input, etc.
Our target is to enable at least a "minimized" CentOS (which can support the OpenStack CI work), is there a SIG fit for this purpose? or a "full" CentOS with default feature sets.
Could anybody kindly give us some clue to start this journey?
Thanks everyone in advance!
The Howto of OpenStack Train Installation on IBM LinuxONE had been merged to the RDO official website.
https://www.rdoproject.org/install/
-- FuLong Wang fulong.wang@cn.ibm.com IBM China Systems Lab, Beijing, China _______________________________________________
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
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I know s390x I just need to know what a CentOS builder looks like. I can use ClefOS or RHEL to provide the bootstrap environment. When we first did 6.2 we boostrapped with rhel 6 and once the first ClefOS came out the other end we used it for all subsequent builds. We used the three phase approach to get the end product.
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-------- Original message -------- From: David Edelsohn dje.gcc@gmail.com Date: 3/20/20 00:29 (GMT+10:00) To: "The CentOS developers mailing list." centos-devel@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS-devel] CentOS for IBM LinuxONE / IBM System Z
Hi, Jim
The resources is not a problem. I had allocated two raw z/VMs at Marist in 2018 and the developer was working on it until told to stop.
The challenge is a person knowledgeable with CentOS bootstrap and s390x.
Thanks, David
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 10:21 AM Jim Perrin jperrin@centos.org wrote:
Part of the challenge around this has been in "how to get resources". We're in the process of trying to get access to some Z-series gear, for a variety of technical detail minutia it's taking a little while. I'm happy to discuss this off-list.
On 3/19/20 7:05 AM, Troy Dawson wrote:
Thanks for the clarification. And thanks to FuLong, and any others helping in this effort.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 6:41 AM David Edelsohn dje.gcc@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry, I replied to the wrong thread.
FuLong is trying to restart the CentOS on s390x effort and we are trying to determine the technical steps to initiate a bootstrap. I reported the plan from 2018.
Thanks, David
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:36 AM Troy Dawson tdawson@redhat.com wrote:
What does this mean? Does this mean we aren't going to do a s390x for CentOS 8? Does it mean we are going to do it, and have a plan?
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 6:26 AM David Edelsohn dje.gcc@gmail.com wrote:
From: Karanbir Singh kbsingh@centos.org To: David Edelsohn edelsohn@us.ibm.com Date: 05/17/2018 11:17 PM Subject: Re: CentOS on Z-Series
Hi David,
We wont need ClefOS to do the bootstrap, we'd want to do it the same way as we did the power bringup and the arm-server etc just to keep the baseline intact and work from there up.
The plan from the IBMer who had bootstrapped CentOS on PPC64LE Linux was:
I just spoke a bit with Jim Perrins (Evolution on irc) and got the go ahead to use ClefOS to speed up the bootstrap. I think I’ll stop asking questions and get to work quietly before Karanbir Singh tells me I have to use old Fedora 19 s390x rpms to bootstrap and build everything from CentOS 7.0 -> 7.1 -> 7.2 -> 7.3 -> 7.4 -> 7.5
I will build CentOS 7.5.1804 s390x/s390 will a small backing of ClefOS rpms, and then rebuild CentOS 7.5.1804 s390x/s390 cleanly with itself. At some point I”ll need to get the LinuxOne VMs reinstalled with my CentOS code for the final rebuild and then turn things over to CentOS guys to gpg sign and publish.
The IBMer then was instructed to not help Z. And the CentOS work never was staffed within IBM.
- David
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 3:49 AM FuLong Wang fulwang@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I'm from IBM China Development Team and I'm working on a new initiative that plan to enable a "minimized" or "full" CentOS operating system on IBM LinuxONE / IBM System Z (s390x architect).
The reason why we start this topic is we are trying to contribute to the RDO community with our OpenStack build on LInuxONE. We have successfully finished the build job for OpenStack Train Version on LinuxONE and passed the basic function verification tests recently. Now, we already have a link for worldwide users & fans to reference for their needs. For "official official" contributing to the RDO community, community admin stated that a TripleO CI env is a must for community release criteria and the OpenStack packages need to be built in the CentOS build system which run on s390x arch.
So, we turn to here for help, we know CentOS community ever had releases for s390x arch but for whatever reasons finally stopped for update. We want to take this opportunity to enable it up again and therefore want to know about the overall processes, skills required, hardware requirements, manpowers and duration estimated and which parts need IBM's team's input, etc.
Our target is to enable at least a "minimized" CentOS (which can support the OpenStack CI work), is there a SIG fit for this purpose? or a "full" CentOS with default feature sets.
Could anybody kindly give us some clue to start this journey?
Thanks everyone in advance!
The Howto of OpenStack Train Installation on IBM LinuxONE had been merged to the RDO official website.
https://www.rdoproject.org/install/
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Thanks David, Troy, Jim and Everyone here,
Yes, I'm trying to restart the CentOS on s390x effort right now and seek experts help here!
As David said, now hardware resources is not a big issue for us, we can managed to afford a powerful environment on LinuxONE Community Cloud hosted in Marist college in pok.
It's slightly more complicated than that with respect to using resources, but I appreciate the offer and desire to restart this effort.
On 3/19/20 7:39 AM, FuLong Wang wrote:
Thanks David, Troy, Jim and Everyone here,
Yes, I'm trying to restart the CentOS on s390x effort right now and seek experts help here!
As David said, now hardware resources is not a big issue for us, we can managed to afford a powerful environment on LinuxONE Community Cloud hosted in Marist college in pok.
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