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Ralph Angenendt wrote:

Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:

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http://wiki.centos.org/Promo/Tshirts

Okay. The second one is completely "overloaded". The first one would look good with only one of the "flowers".

The rest somehow is missing the CentOS reference, as I don't think that the slogans are self explaining.

But the overall looks is great, we'd just have to mix some CentOS reference in there >:)

Working on it :D

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On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Ralph Angenendt wrote:

Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:

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There are some t-shirt's decorations available at:

http://wiki.centos.org/Promo/Tshirts

Okay. The second one is completely "overloaded". The first one would look good with only one of the "flowers".

The rest somehow is missing the CentOS reference, as I don't think that the slogans are self explaining.

But the overall looks is great, we'd just have to mix some CentOS reference in there >:)

That is why for the stickers we chose to take the slogan:

CentOS: Enterprise Linux for the people

So that at least people know that it is an Enterprise Linux and they are included as the target market :) (besides in South America you have strong people movements)

What I like on a poster is to give away the important characteristics of an Enterprise Linux. There are ofcourse many, and some are more interesting to some people than others.

In my presentations I always talk about:

secure, stable, predictable and reproducable

If we look at what Enterprise Linux means, an important one is that security updates are low-risk and available as soon as they are ready and tested. As a result the deliverables are stable and systems running an Enterprise Linux are predictable in behaviour.

Thanks to the fact that the environment does not change too often, experiences and problems are reproducable on other systems.

So to me the poster and future promotional material should indicate that CentOS is an Enterprise Linux, and it should include those 4 important keywords.

What do other people think ?

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Manuel Wolfshant wrote: ...

As a parenthesis the flower raises in me anything but the sentiment of "enterprise". It's nice for a summer beach shirt and recalls Woodstock and the flower power concept, but I would not associate it with linux in any way.

I'm glad to see that kind of comments :). Let's talk about it.

Well, to start it is not a flower at all. It is some kind of unknown Plant.

I selected that as a concept. It is a try, surely not enough but a try. Maybe it do not reflect the Enterprise concept at all but the community feeling.

Plants have roots, trunks, branches and leaves. All those parts work together among them, day by day, doing specific tasks, and ruled by the laws of nature, to let the plant grow as a whole and show the beauty of it existence.

That is somehow the way I see our community: CentOS, the product, is the plant/tree growing every day. We, the community, are part of that Plant's trunk, branches and leaves; ruled by the laws of open standards. The root is our provider.

I'm sure it is not the best idea (and it could be wrong), and probably needs to integrate Enterprise concept on it, but felt motivated to do something with some of the electrical pulses passing through my head.

Does the poster/tshirt Plant have relation now ?

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Manuel Wolfshant wrote:

Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:

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leaving aside the explanation (which is nice, btw), let me put it in other words: if you print that design on a sheet of paper and show it to someone, will that person make the associations described by you above, or will that person need the same tutorial I needed ?

Maybe they need to read the tutorial too.

This is an artwork to add value based on a concept. If the concept is right for you, so the artwork should (supposing it is graphically nice and correct to you). That is a tool that would help us to create a common look and feel in each CentOS element (webs, posters, tshirts, media, ...) say create a visual identity.

The main representation of CentOS is (and always will be) its logotype which is not the Plant. The Plant concept help us to reach an artwork motive to decorate things.

I see your point, and agree with it. The idea needs more work yet. So SVG files are available for everyone to download and improve[1].

Actually I am exploring each CentOS element and how they fit with the concept, so they would be improved later. What you see now is a basic form of what could be, useful to build a svn repo, and identify each CentOS elements that need a touch of artwork.

I would appreciate any suggestion about how to do this. Actually fedora's artwork has been my guide.

[1]: https://projects.centos.org/svn/trunk/

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Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:

There is an intention to represent your idea at:

https://projects.centos.org/svn/artwork/trunk/Promo/Poster/img/EL4People.png

"Enterprise Linux for the(!) people" (like "Power to the people").

:)

Cheers,

Ralph

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Akemi Yagi wrote:

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Ralph Angenendt ra+centos@br-online.de wrote:

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Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:

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There is an intention to represent your idea at:

https://projects.centos.org/svn/artwork/trunk/Promo/Poster/img/EL4People.png

"Enterprise Linux for the(!) people" (like "Power to the people").

and ... "reproducible" :-D

Updated now :D

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