Am 23.02.22 um 13:47 schrieb Fabian Arrotin:

On 22/02/2022 22:37, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote:

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Am 21.02.22 um 16:24 schrieb Fabian Arrotin:

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On 21/02/2022 15:49, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote:

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Hey all, back from vacation and seeing ansible 2.12 in the repos now. Anything to be aware of when upgrading from 2.9 to 2.12 in CS8?

You'd be lucky if it works directly , as there were some semantic changes in ansible, so you'll probably have to review all the changes, and if ansible-core just has the modules (it's a stripped down version of ansible, as you're supposed to download the collections yourself) , and use FQCN (Fully Qualified Collection Names) for  modules ...

FWIW, CentOS Infra still on ansible 2.9.27 from our own configuration management SIG and ansible-core excluded in yum/dnf to ensure that our automation still runs fine (until we have time to test/convert all our roles/tasks/playbooks to run on ansible 5 - aka ansible-core 2.12.x)

Thanks Fabian for the insights. I was planning such tests for May but that seems to be to late now.

I remember that someone wanted to provide a meta package that pull additional ansible collections to give a similar experience like 2.9? Maybe more an EPEL question ...

-- Leon

There is indeed a an effort to have an ansible meta-package that would pull both ansible-core and would contain collections (see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ansible5)

I already had a look myself to see how to rebuild/provide it through configmanagement SIG eventually, as we now have ansible-core availble Some packages for ansible 5.x are already built on koji.fedoraproject.org (see https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=13842) but not yet available for epel8, due to lack of ansible-core in RHEL 8 (for now, but coming as it's in 8-stream, so in advance)

Other introduced problem with ansible-core is the dep  on python 3.8, meaning that while we had ara (Ansible Records Ansible dashboard) available in configmanagement SIG, it needs to be using same python interpreter version for the callback, and previous one was built against/for python 3.6 (like ansible 2.9.x) , so quite some changes ...

Moved this from #centos to #centos-devel:

I am using an "ansible community package" (5.5.0) for testing internally now and noticed following behaviour:

"yum update" obsoletes "ansible-2.9.27-1.el8.noarch" and installs ansible-core-2.12.2-2.el8.x86_64. A second "yum update" updates to ansible-core-2.12.3-1.el8.x86_64.

We have the "ansible community package" as "ansible" in the repos. When doing a "yum install ansible" then dnf downgrades ansible-core to 2.12.2-2.el8. That is caused by the "Obsoletes: ansible" statement in that version but it is changed now to a "Conflicts: ansible < 2.10.0" in the newer version of ansible-core "2.12.3-1.el8.x86_64".

IMO - the cs8 compose should remove the intermediate package ansible-core-2.12.2-2.el8.x86_64 to allow installing newer "ansible community package" rpms ... if it comes from the internal or in the future from the EPEL repo is irrelevant.

test # rpm -q ansible-core ansible-core-2.12.3-1.el8.x86_64

test # yum install ansible Last metadata expiration check: 0:27:35 ago on Mon Apr 4 16:54:41 2022. Dependencies resolved. ================================================================================================================== Package Architecture Version Repository Size ================================================================================================================== Downgrading: ansible-core x86_64 2.12.2-2.el8 appstream 2.4 M

Transaction Summary ================================================================================================================== Downgrade 1 Package

Total download size: 2.4 M Is this ok [y/N]: ^COperation aborted.

test # yum --exclude ansible-core-2.12.2-2.el8.x86_64 install ansible Last metadata expiration check: 0:27:49 ago on Mon Apr 4 16:54:41 2022. Dependencies resolved. ================================================================================================================== Package Architecture Version Repository Size ================================================================================================================== Installing: ansible noarch 5.5.0-1.el8 is-ws-tools 42 M

Transaction Summary ================================================================================================================== Install 1 Package

Total download size: 42 M Installed size: 305 M Is this ok [y/N]: Operation aborted.

-- Leon