Hi
There is quite a lot of stuff going on and not all of it is easily visible to everyone. The way to perhaps address that is to setup a project calendar that people can sync against and look at regularly. And more win if we can have it slightly open ended, allowing people / projects / sig's to contribute events into that cal.
To that extent Stephen Smoogen introduced me to Pierre-Yves Chibo who runs the fedocal effort, and they have graciously agreed to set something up for CentOS as well. Stephen I know is on this list already, I've requested Pierre to join ( he might have done so already ).
Firstly looking for comments on the idea / plan - and then for options on implemention, publishing and consumption of the calendar.
Regards
On 03/28/2014 07:31 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
Firstly looking for comments on the idea / plan - and then for options on implemention, publishing and consumption of the calendar.
+1 - Fedocal is very handy and pretty easy to maintain.
Would love to have a separate cal for events.
Best,
jzb
On 28/03/14 13:31, Karanbir Singh wrote:
Hi
There is quite a lot of stuff going on and not all of it is easily visible to everyone. The way to perhaps address that is to setup a project calendar that people can sync against and look at regularly. And more win if we can have it slightly open ended, allowing people / projects / sig's to contribute events into that cal.
To that extent Stephen Smoogen introduced me to Pierre-Yves Chibo who runs the fedocal effort, and they have graciously agreed to set something up for CentOS as well. Stephen I know is on this list already, I've requested Pierre to join ( he might have done so already ).
Firstly looking for comments on the idea / plan - and then for options on implemention, publishing and consumption of the calendar.
Regards
I really like the idea of having one place to look at and concatenating multiple calendars at once (and that gives the possibility to respective groups/SIGs to master their own calendars too). I didn't know Fedocal and had a quick look at the doc. I like the fact that iCal is supported, but only in read-only mode, so one has to use the WebUI to add event to the calendar(s) (or upload a ics).
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 06:28:34PM +0100, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
On 28/03/14 13:31, Karanbir Singh wrote:
Hi
There is quite a lot of stuff going on and not all of it is easily visible to everyone. The way to perhaps address that is to setup a project calendar that people can sync against and look at regularly. And more win if we can have it slightly open ended, allowing people / projects / sig's to contribute events into that cal.
To that extent Stephen Smoogen introduced me to Pierre-Yves Chibon who runs the fedocal effort, and they have graciously agreed to set something up for CentOS as well. Stephen I know is on this list already, I've requested Pierre to join ( he might have done so already ).
Firstly looking for comments on the idea / plan - and then for options on implemention, publishing and consumption of the calendar.
I really like the idea of having one place to look at and concatenating multiple calendars at once (and that gives the possibility to respective groups/SIGs to master their own calendars too). I didn't know Fedocal and had a quick look at the doc. I like the fact that iCal is supported, but only in read-only mode, so one has to use the WebUI to add event to the calendar(s) (or upload a ics).
My understanding is that iCal is always read-only. To get read/write you have to move to caldav which is a complete other level of complexicity/breakability.
Once question though, does the CentOS infrastructure has an account system? Currently Fedocal relies on FedOAuth which provides OpenID (and persona) and combined with the openid-teams extension fedocal is able to manage authorization. FedOAuth [1] might be something interesting for CentOS, otherwise we can of courss look at adapting fedocal to the current CentOS infrastructure.
[1] https://github.com/FedOAuth/FedOAuth
Best regards, Pierre
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 03:26:43PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 06:28:34PM +0100, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
On 28/03/14 13:31, Karanbir Singh wrote:
Hi
There is quite a lot of stuff going on and not all of it is easily visible to everyone. The way to perhaps address that is to setup a project calendar that people can sync against and look at regularly. And more win if we can have it slightly open ended, allowing people / projects / sig's to contribute events into that cal.
To that extent Stephen Smoogen introduced me to Pierre-Yves Chibon who runs the fedocal effort, and they have graciously agreed to set something up for CentOS as well. Stephen I know is on this list already, I've requested Pierre to join ( he might have done so already ).
Firstly looking for comments on the idea / plan - and then for options on implemention, publishing and consumption of the calendar.
I really like the idea of having one place to look at and concatenating multiple calendars at once (and that gives the possibility to respective groups/SIGs to master their own calendars too). I didn't know Fedocal and had a quick look at the doc. I like the fact that iCal is supported, but only in read-only mode, so one has to use the WebUI to add event to the calendar(s) (or upload a ics).
My understanding is that iCal is always read-only. To get read/write you have to move to caldav which is a complete other level of complexicity/breakability.
Once question though, does the CentOS infrastructure has an account system? Currently Fedocal relies on FedOAuth which provides OpenID (and persona) and combined with the openid-teams extension fedocal is able to manage authorization. FedOAuth [1] might be something interesting for CentOS, otherwise we can of courss look at adapting fedocal to the current CentOS infrastructure.
No account system? :)
Pierre
On 04/10/2014 10:06 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
No account system? :)
Not currently. We're working on doing a 'best of breed' comparison between FAS and FreeIPA, as they're the two systems that meet our needs. FreeIPA lacks oauth, but FAS lacks significantly in documentation, and doesn't appear to be 'officially' packaged for distribution(EPEL or other public repo). Who in fedora would we work with to ensure a fair comparison between the two?
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 07:38:34PM -0500, Jim Perrin wrote:
On 04/10/2014 10:06 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
No account system? :)
Not currently. We're working on doing a 'best of breed' comparison between FAS and FreeIPA, as they're the two systems that meet our needs. FreeIPA lacks oauth, but FAS lacks significantly in documentation, and doesn't appear to be 'officially' packaged for distribution(EPEL or other public repo). Who in fedora would we work with to ensure a fair comparison between the two?
Couple of things here. The Fedora infrastructure only deploy application using RPM, so all our application are packaged, but not all them are in the 'official' repositories (Fedora or EPEL), when they are not, you can find them in the infra repo: http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/repo/6/ (so you will find there also backport of more recent libraries eventually needed).
The second thing is that FAS is being re-written, we have plans to include some oauth mechanisms in it for example. So if you see some things missing that you would like, feel free to suggest them, now is the right time.
Finally, I believe Toshio (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Toshio - toshio@fedoraproject.org) would be the best person to talk to ensure a fair comparison, but if you ask your questions here I will of course try my best to answer them :)
Pierre
Reviving an old thread here, I think we've got quite a lot of stuff going on around the project to benefit from a shared calendar solution.
Do we have a way forward on this ? if not, we can try and just do something via a shared git repo or a hosted cal that can publish an ics file ?
On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 12:49:41AM +0000, Karanbir Singh wrote:
Reviving an old thread here, I think we've got quite a lot of stuff going on around the project to benefit from a shared calendar solution.
Do we have a way forward on this ? if not, we can try and just do something via a shared git repo or a hosted cal that can publish an ics file ?
I don't have the whole earlier thread handy (curse you mailman and your per-month archiving), but it'd be pretty great to collaborate with Fedocal here.
On 12/01/2014 08:10 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
I don't have the whole earlier thread handy (curse you mailman and your per-month archiving), but it'd be pretty great to collaborate with Fedocal here.
+1
It works, it's running, why not re-use it?
Best,
jzb
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On 02/12/14 03:10, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 12:49:41AM +0000, Karanbir Singh wrote:
Reviving an old thread here, I think we've got quite a lot of stuff going on around the project to benefit from a shared calendar solution.
Do we have a way forward on this ? if not, we can try and just do something via a shared git repo or a hosted cal that can publish an ics file ?
I don't have the whole earlier thread handy (curse you mailman and your per-month archiving), but it'd be pretty great to collaborate with Fedocal here.
And I guess it has a strong dependency on FAS ? (from what I can read on http://fedocal.readthedocs.org/en/latest/usage.html)
There is already a thread about FAS vs IPA on the centos-devel list, about which one to target for the (near) future, but it seems it doesn't get momentum/traction ... (well, IPA seems the "prefered" choice, but no vote - yet - )
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On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 08:55:54AM +0100, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
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On 02/12/14 03:10, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 12:49:41AM +0000, Karanbir Singh wrote:
Reviving an old thread here, I think we've got quite a lot of stuff going on around the project to benefit from a shared calendar solution.
Do we have a way forward on this ? if not, we can try and just do something via a shared git repo or a hosted cal that can publish an ics file ?
I don't have the whole earlier thread handy (curse you mailman and your per-month archiving), but it'd be pretty great to collaborate with Fedocal here.
And I guess it has a strong dependency on FAS ? (from what I can read on http://fedocal.readthedocs.org/en/latest/usage.html)
The question is what would you like to use as authentication/authorization mechanism?
Fedora uses FedOAuth (now merged into Ipsilon) which does both the authentication and authorization. Ipsilon supports other backend that FAS such as ldap as well as local username/password/groups store (in a local DB). So you could use it with one backend now and move to something else later once you have made your choice.
Pierre
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