For those of you who missed it, here's a recap of last week's CentOS Dojo at FOSDEM - https://blog.centos.org/2021/02/centos-dojo-fosdem-2021/
Given the adversarial and occasionally toxic discussions we've seen on this list over the past 2 months, I was concerned that we'd have more of the same at the Dojo, but it seems that seeing people's faces tempered the discussion. People continued to ask the hard questions, but without the hostility that we've seen recently.
As a result, I'm considering running several more of these over the coming year, at least until we get back to doing some in-person events, and probably even after that.
Last week's event was optimized for a European-centric time zone. The next one will probably be more centered around North American time zones, and will probably happen some time around May.
If you are interested in helping put the event together, or have ideas about what content you'd like to see, or if you yourself want to present something, please let us know.
Based on early feedback on the post-event survey, people want to hear more about:
* CentOS Stream 9 * more non-red hat use cases * koji (and similar ways of managing smaller scale automated rpm builds) * creating your own module/stream in personal repo, freeipa, keycloak * NextGen: RHEL Sources Home / GitLab / Stream9
And I would echo the "non-Red Hat" item here. While it makes sense that our content has strong Red Hat participation, I'm always doubly-pleased when we get presentations from outside of Red Hat.
Le 08/02/2021 à 21:16, Rich Bowen a écrit :
For those of you who missed it, here's a recap of last week's CentOS Dojo at FOSDEM - https://blog.centos.org/2021/02/centos-dojo-fosdem-2021/
Given the adversarial and occasionally toxic discussions we've seen on this list over the past 2 months, I was concerned that we'd have more of the same at the Dojo, but it seems that seeing people's faces tempered the discussion. People continued to ask the hard questions, but without the hostility that we've seen recently.
As a result, I'm considering running several more of these over the coming year, at least until we get back to doing some in-person events, and probably even after that.
Last week's event was optimized for a European-centric time zone. The next one will probably be more centered around North American time zones, and will probably happen some time around May.
If you are interested in helping put the event together, or have ideas about what content you'd like to see, or if you yourself want to present something, please let us know.
Based on early feedback on the post-event survey, people want to hear more about:
- CentOS Stream 9
- more non-red hat use cases
- koji (and similar ways of managing smaller scale automated rpm builds)
- creating your own module/stream in personal repo, freeipa, keycloak
- NextGen: RHEL Sources Home / GitLab / Stream9
And I would echo the "non-Red Hat" item here. While it makes sense that our content has strong Red Hat participation, I'm always doubly-pleased when we get presentations from outside of Red Hat.
The time frame in announcing the switch from CentOS Linux 8 to CentOS Stream was a huge mistake and angered people like Hitchcock's birds.
Now that the table is turned, we need to see how to deal with this new situation. I'm not interested in CentOS Stream because it's not stable enough or no-cost RHEL because it's just not free in terms of license.
Instead of migrate CentOS Linux 7 to 8, in the same way Red Hat let CentOS Linux 8 down in the middle of the road, I switched to Oracle Linux 8 with no regrets now that the job is done.
Having said that, I've never been against CentOS Stream, before the crash I thought it was a pretty good thing, and I could still be helpfull to some SIG with test machines, but not a production server.
Jean-Marc
On 2/9/21 10:49 PM, Edward via CentOS-devel wrote:
On 2/8/21 12:16 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:
at least until we get back to doing some in-person events
hope that includes having a booth at next years SCALE?
I certainly plan to be at next year's SCALE - as we say here in Kentucky - Lord willing and the creek don't rise.
On 2/10/21 7:38 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
On 2/9/21 10:49 PM, Edward via CentOS-devel wrote:
On 2/8/21 12:16 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:
at least until we get back to doing some in-person events
hope that includes having a booth at next years SCALE?
I certainly plan to be at next year's SCALE - as we say here in Kentucky
- Lord willing and the creek don't rise.
I'm curious how deep this interest in a booth at SCALE would be?
Because of the timing of all the things and that pre-Pasadena SCALE had expo hall space limitations, we have always had CentOS as one of the many community participants at the Red Hat booth.
By comparison, Fedora has always had a stand-alone booth at SCALE, sometimes near the RH booth, sometimes farther away.
For us to have a stand-alone SCALE booth would require a bit of more local help. I would absolutely be there and will drive down from NorCal so I can help ferry booth things around the week-of. But we need more than Rich and myself to organize and staff that booth.
If there are folks in Southern Californa and would be interested in a stand-alone CentOS booth at SCALE in 2022, let's start talking!
Best regards,
- Karsten
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 09:28:39AM -0800, Karsten Wade wrote:
By comparison, Fedora has always had a stand-alone booth at SCALE, sometimes near the RH booth, sometimes farther away.
Fedora folks might be interested in sharing the Fedora booth, or at least being neighbors. We've done that at LISA for several years (and Red Hat Summit, too) and I've felt it to be successful for both projects.
On 2/10/21 12:47 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 09:28:39AM -0800, Karsten Wade wrote:
By comparison, Fedora has always had a stand-alone booth at SCALE, sometimes near the RH booth, sometimes farther away.
Fedora folks might be interested in sharing the Fedora booth, or at least being neighbors. We've done that at LISA for several years (and Red Hat Summit, too) and I've felt it to be successful for both projects.
This is what I'd like to do, when the time comes. I think this makes the most sense.
I like this idea as well as it shows adjacent communities working together. I think it would also help folks understand where Stream fits in a little better though hopefully by 2022 that won't be a concern.
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On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 11:50 AM Rich Bowen rbowen@redhat.com wrote:
On 2/10/21 12:47 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 09:28:39AM -0800, Karsten Wade wrote:
By comparison, Fedora has always had a stand-alone booth at SCALE, sometimes near the RH booth, sometimes farther away.
Fedora folks might be interested in sharing the Fedora booth, or at least being neighbors. We've done that at LISA for several years (and Red Hat Summit, too) and I've felt it to be successful for both projects.
This is what I'd like to do, when the time comes. I think this makes the most sense.
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On Wed, 2021-02-10 at 09:28 -0800, Karsten Wade wrote:
I'm curious how deep this interest in a booth at SCALE would be?
Because of the timing of all the things and that pre-Pasadena SCALE had expo hall space limitations, we have always had CentOS as one of the many community participants at the Red Hat booth.
By comparison, Fedora has always had a stand-alone booth at SCALE, sometimes near the RH booth, sometimes farther away.
For us to have a stand-alone SCALE booth would require a bit of more local help. I would absolutely be there and will drive down from NorCal so I can help ferry booth things around the week-of. But we need more than Rich and myself to organize and staff that booth.
If there are folks in Southern Californa and would be interested in a stand-alone CentOS booth at SCALE in 2022, let's start talking!
I'm usually at SCALE manning the Facebook booth, but I'd be happy to help with CentOS for a few shifts if needed (and could likely drag a few other folks along).
Cheers Davide
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