During the cloud instance SIG meeting today we talked about future plans for cloud-init in CentOS. Right now cloud-init is included as part of EPEL and that's where most CentOS users consume it from. The problem is that cloud-init and related bits are critical for building images to run on a public or private cloud, and we need to build early guest initialization tools into the cloud images we produce. Ideally this does not include adding EPEL or packages from EPEL which have not been rebuilt in our build systems.
So, the proposal that there's general consensus upon within the SIG is to maintain cloud-init, its dependencies, and any related packages on git.centos.org and rebuild them ourselves. I'm one of the maintainers in EPEL so I offered to maintain the git repos for CentOS, anyone else who would like to be involved in more than welcome to step up.
Thoughts, questions, concerns?
-s
On 05.05.2014 18:24, Sam Kottler wrote:
During the cloud instance SIG meeting today we talked about future plans for cloud-init in CentOS. Right now cloud-init is included as part of EPEL and that's where most CentOS users consume it from. The problem is that cloud-init and related bits are critical for building images to run on a public or private cloud, and we need to build early guest initialization tools into the cloud images we produce. Ideally this does not include adding EPEL or packages from EPEL which have not been rebuilt in our build systems.
So, the proposal that there's general consensus upon within the SIG is to maintain cloud-init, its dependencies, and any related packages on git.centos.org and rebuild them ourselves. I'm one of the maintainers in EPEL so I offered to maintain the git repos for CentOS, anyone else who would like to be involved in more than welcome to step up.
Thoughts, questions, concerns?
Thanks Sam. I guess the main concern for me is - as a lot of people are using EPEL - to make sure the version is EPEL is in some kind of sync, or at least if higher version that it won't mess up stuff.
Lucian
On 5/5/14, 11:28 PM, Nux! wrote:
On 05.05.2014 18:24, Sam Kottler wrote:
During the cloud instance SIG meeting today we talked about future plans for cloud-init in CentOS. Right now cloud-init is included as part of EPEL and that's where most CentOS users consume it from. The problem is that cloud-init and related bits are critical for building images to run on a public or private cloud, and we need to build early guest initialization tools into the cloud images we produce. Ideally this does not include adding EPEL or packages from EPEL which have not been rebuilt in our build systems.
So, the proposal that there's general consensus upon within the SIG is to maintain cloud-init, its dependencies, and any related packages on git.centos.org and rebuild them ourselves. I'm one of the maintainers in EPEL so I offered to maintain the git repos for CentOS, anyone else who would like to be involved in more than welcome to step up.
Thoughts, questions, concerns?
Thanks Sam. I guess the main concern for me is - as a lot of people are using EPEL - to make sure the version is EPEL is in some kind of sync, or at least if higher version that it won't mess up stuff.
I think we'd ideally keep the packages in lock-step with one another to prevent versioning problems. The goal here isn't to diverge from EPEL, but rather to consolidate where the required packages 'live' across the different repos (CentOS vs. EPEL).
-s
Lucian
On 05/05/14 18:30, Sam Kottler wrote:
On 5/5/14, 11:28 PM, Nux! wrote:
On 05.05.2014 18:24, Sam Kottler wrote:
During the cloud instance SIG meeting today we talked about future plans for cloud-init in CentOS. Right now cloud-init is included as part of EPEL and that's where most CentOS users consume it from. The problem is that cloud-init and related bits are critical for building images to run on a public or private cloud, and we need to build early guest initialization tools into the cloud images we produce. Ideally this does not include adding EPEL or packages from EPEL which have not been rebuilt in our build systems.
So, the proposal that there's general consensus upon within the SIG is to maintain cloud-init, its dependencies, and any related packages on git.centos.org and rebuild them ourselves. I'm one of the maintainers in EPEL so I offered to maintain the git repos for CentOS, anyone else who would like to be involved in more than welcome to step up.
Thoughts, questions, concerns?
Thanks Sam. I guess the main concern for me is - as a lot of people are using EPEL - to make sure the version is EPEL is in some kind of sync, or at least if higher version that it won't mess up stuff.
I think we'd ideally keep the packages in lock-step with one another to prevent versioning problems. The goal here isn't to diverge from EPEL, but rather to consolidate where the required packages 'live' across the different repos (CentOS vs. EPEL).
I see the epel6 version has gotten out of sync. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1168444
That probably requires syncing the following to EPEL: https://git.centos.org/log/rpms!cloud-init/refs!heads!c6-extras but changing things like the default user from centos to cloud-user to align with RH-COMMON settings?
However I was wondering about the general point of having packages in RH-COMMON, EPEL (6 and 7), and the cloud instance sig Should we consider dropping the EPEL versions, or do we need to maintain them to handle settings like the default user etc.?
thanks, Pádraig.
+1 for removing it from EPEL, or at least have it in fewer places.
As for the default user, there have been many discussions, at this point I don't care any more; I'm using "root" for my deployments.
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From: "Pádraig Brady" pbrady@redhat.com To: "The CentOS developers mailing list." centos-devel@centos.org Cc: "Perry Myers" pmyers@redhat.com, "Alan Pevec" apevec@redhat.com Sent: Monday, 1 December, 2014 19:04:49 Subject: Re: [CentOS-devel] cloud-init in CentOS
On 05/05/14 18:30, Sam Kottler wrote:
On 5/5/14, 11:28 PM, Nux! wrote:
On 05.05.2014 18:24, Sam Kottler wrote:
During the cloud instance SIG meeting today we talked about future plans for cloud-init in CentOS. Right now cloud-init is included as part of EPEL and that's where most CentOS users consume it from. The problem is that cloud-init and related bits are critical for building images to run on a public or private cloud, and we need to build early guest initialization tools into the cloud images we produce. Ideally this does not include adding EPEL or packages from EPEL which have not been rebuilt in our build systems.
So, the proposal that there's general consensus upon within the SIG is to maintain cloud-init, its dependencies, and any related packages on git.centos.org and rebuild them ourselves. I'm one of the maintainers in EPEL so I offered to maintain the git repos for CentOS, anyone else who would like to be involved in more than welcome to step up.
Thoughts, questions, concerns?
Thanks Sam. I guess the main concern for me is - as a lot of people are using EPEL - to make sure the version is EPEL is in some kind of sync, or at least if higher version that it won't mess up stuff.
I think we'd ideally keep the packages in lock-step with one another to prevent versioning problems. The goal here isn't to diverge from EPEL, but rather to consolidate where the required packages 'live' across the different repos (CentOS vs. EPEL).
I see the epel6 version has gotten out of sync. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1168444
That probably requires syncing the following to EPEL: https://git.centos.org/log/rpms!cloud-init/refs!heads!c6-extras but changing things like the default user from centos to cloud-user to align with RH-COMMON settings?
However I was wondering about the general point of having packages in RH-COMMON, EPEL (6 and 7), and the cloud instance sig Should we consider dropping the EPEL versions, or do we need to maintain them to handle settings like the default user etc.?
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On 01/12/14 19:04, Pádraig Brady wrote:
That probably requires syncing the following to EPEL: https://git.centos.org/log/rpms!cloud-init/refs!heads!c6-extras but changing things like the default user from centos to cloud-user to align with RH-COMMON settings?
However I was wondering about the general point of having packages in RH-COMMON, EPEL (6 and 7), and the cloud instance sig Should we consider dropping the EPEL versions, or do we need to maintain them to handle settings like the default user etc.?
We are hosting cloud-init in the base CentOS Extras repo, making it available everywhere, without any extra configs, and keep track of it and keeping it in sync with EPEL is something that we need to address. Dropping it from some targets might be ok, but as a first step I think we should:
- find a way to make sure everyone gets a fair chance for updates - find a way to communicate patches for features going in - move some of the repo / target / distro specific content like the default user, into macros in the spec files, enclosed in suiteable checks.
- KB
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Sam Kottler s@shk.io wrote:
During the cloud instance SIG meeting today we talked about future plans for cloud-init in CentOS. Right now cloud-init is included as part of EPEL and that's where most CentOS users consume it from. The problem is that cloud-init and related bits are critical for building images to run on a public or private cloud, and we need to build early guest initialization tools into the cloud images we produce. Ideally this does not include adding EPEL or packages from EPEL which have not been rebuilt in our build systems.
So, the proposal that there's general consensus upon within the SIG is to maintain cloud-init, its dependencies, and any related packages on git.centos.org and rebuild them ourselves. I'm one of the maintainers in EPEL so I offered to maintain the git repos for CentOS, anyone else who would like to be involved in more than welcome to step up.
I'm the EPEL maintainer of cloud-utils and cloud-initramfs-tools and I'm willing to maintain those packages and their dependencies for CentOS with the goal to keep them in sync.
...Juerg
Thoughts, questions, concerns?
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On 5/5/14, 11:31 PM, Juerg Haefliger wrote:
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Sam Kottler <s@shk.io mailto:s@shk.io> wrote:
During the cloud instance SIG meeting today we talked about future plans for cloud-init in CentOS. Right now cloud-init is included as part of EPEL and that's where most CentOS users consume it from. The problem is that cloud-init and related bits are critical for building images to run on a public or private cloud, and we need to build early guest initialization tools into the cloud images we produce. Ideally this does not include adding EPEL or packages from EPEL which have not been rebuilt in our build systems.
So, the proposal that there's general consensus upon within the SIG is to maintain cloud-init, its dependencies, and any related packages on git.centos.org http://git.centos.org and rebuild them ourselves.
I'm one of the maintainers in
EPEL so I offered to maintain the git repos for CentOS, anyone else who would like to be involved in more than welcome to step up.
I'm the EPEL maintainer of cloud-utils and cloud-initramfs-tools and I'm willing to maintain those packages and their dependencies for CentOS with the goal to keep them in sync.
Awesome, thanks!
...Juerg
Thoughts, questions, concerns?
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Hi
Now the image whether support resize?
CentOS can provide rpm for https://github.com/flegmatik/linux-rootfs-resize?
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Sam Kottler s@shk.io wrote:
On 5/5/14, 11:31 PM, Juerg Haefliger wrote:
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Sam Kottler <s@shk.io mailto:s@shk.io> wrote:
During the cloud instance SIG meeting today we talked about future
plans
for cloud-init in CentOS. Right now cloud-init is included as part of EPEL and that's where most CentOS users consume it from. The problem is that cloud-init and related bits are critical for building images to
run
on a public or private cloud, and we need to build early guest initialization tools into the cloud images we produce. Ideally this
does
not include adding EPEL or packages from EPEL which have not been rebuilt in our build systems.
So, the proposal that there's general consensus upon within the SIG is to maintain cloud-init, its dependencies, and any related packages on git.centos.org http://git.centos.org and rebuild them ourselves.
I'm one of the maintainers in
EPEL so I offered to maintain the git repos for CentOS, anyone else who would like to be involved in more than welcome to step up.
I'm the EPEL maintainer of cloud-utils and cloud-initramfs-tools and I'm willing to maintain those packages and their dependencies for CentOS with the goal to keep them in sync.
Awesome, thanks!
...Juerg
Thoughts, questions, concerns?
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On 5/6/14, 8:10 AM, Shake Chen wrote:
Hi
Now the image whether support resize?
CentOS can provide rpm for https://github.com/flegmatik/linux-rootfs-resize?
How is it different from cloud-initramfs-tools? If you're interested in having included a repo, it seems like EPEL is the right place.
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Sam Kottler <s@shk.io mailto:s@shk.io> wrote:
On 5/5/14, 11:31 PM, Juerg Haefliger wrote: > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Sam Kottler <s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io> > <mailto:s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io>>> wrote: > > > > During the cloud instance SIG meeting today we talked about future plans > > for cloud-init in CentOS. Right now cloud-init is included as part of > > EPEL and that's where most CentOS users consume it from. The problem is > > that cloud-init and related bits are critical for building images to run > > on a public or private cloud, and we need to build early guest > > initialization tools into the cloud images we produce. Ideally this does > > not include adding EPEL or packages from EPEL which have not been > > rebuilt in our build systems. > > > > So, the proposal that there's general consensus upon within the SIG is > > to maintain cloud-init, its dependencies, and any related packages on > > git.centos.org <http://git.centos.org> <http://git.centos.org> and rebuild them ourselves. > I'm one of the maintainers in > > EPEL so I offered to maintain the git repos for CentOS, anyone else who > > would like to be involved in more than welcome to step up. > > I'm the EPEL maintainer of cloud-utils and cloud-initramfs-tools and > I'm willing to maintain those packages and their dependencies for > CentOS with the goal to keep them in sync. Awesome, thanks! > > ...Juerg > > > Thoughts, questions, concerns? > > > > -s > > _______________________________________________ > > CentOS-devel mailing list > > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org>> > > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS-devel mailing list > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel _______________________________________________ CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel-- Shake Chen
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On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Sam Kottler s@shk.io wrote:
On 5/6/14, 8:10 AM, Shake Chen wrote:
Hi
Now the image whether support resize?
CentOS can provide rpm for https://github.com/flegmatik/linux-rootfs-resize?
How is it different from cloud-initramfs-tools? If you're interested in having included a repo, it seems like EPEL is the right place.
have same feature with cloud-initramfs-tools, let image can been resize.
now cloud-initramfs-tools only in Fedora, I hope can include in EPEL repo.
I think the cloud image need include Cloud-init，cloud-utils and cloud-initramfs-tools.
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Sam Kottler <s@shk.io mailto:s@shk.io> wrote:
On 5/5/14, 11:31 PM, Juerg Haefliger wrote: > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Sam Kottler <s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io> > <mailto:s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io>>> wrote: > > > > During the cloud instance SIG meeting today we talked about future plans > > for cloud-init in CentOS. Right now cloud-init is included as part of > > EPEL and that's where most CentOS users consume it from. The problem is > > that cloud-init and related bits are critical for building images to run > > on a public or private cloud, and we need to build early guest > > initialization tools into the cloud images we produce. Ideally this does > > not include adding EPEL or packages from EPEL which have not been > > rebuilt in our build systems. > > > > So, the proposal that there's general consensus upon within the SIG is > > to maintain cloud-init, its dependencies, and any related packages on > > git.centos.org <http://git.centos.org> <http://git.centos.org> and rebuild them ourselves. > I'm one of the maintainers in > > EPEL so I offered to maintain the git repos for CentOS, anyone else who > > would like to be involved in more than welcome to step up. > > I'm the EPEL maintainer of cloud-utils and cloud-initramfs-toolsand
> I'm willing to maintain those packages and their dependencies for > CentOS with the goal to keep them in sync. Awesome, thanks! > > ...Juerg > > > Thoughts, questions, concerns? > > > > -s > > _______________________________________________ > > CentOS-devel mailing list > > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org>> > > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS-devel mailing list > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel _______________________________________________ CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel-- Shake Chen
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On 5/6/14, 2:27 PM, Shake Chen wrote:
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Sam Kottler <s@shk.io mailto:s@shk.io> wrote:
On 5/6/14, 8:10 AM, Shake Chen wrote: > Hi > > Now the image whether support resize? > > CentOS can provide rpm > for https://github.com/flegmatik/linux-rootfs-resize? How is it different from cloud-initramfs-tools? If you're interested in having included a repo, it seems like EPEL is the right place.have same feature with cloud-initramfs-tools, let image can been resize.
now cloud-initramfs-tools only in Fedora, I hope can include in EPEL repo.
I think the cloud image need include Cloud-init，cloud-utils and cloud-initramfs-tools.
That's the plan.
> > > > > On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Sam Kottler <s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io> > <mailto:s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io>>> wrote: > > > On 5/5/14, 11:31 PM, Juerg Haefliger wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Sam Kottler <s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io> > <mailto:s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io>> > > <mailto:s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io> <mailto:s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io>>>> wrote: > > > > > > During the cloud instance SIG meeting today we talked about > future plans > > > for cloud-init in CentOS. Right now cloud-init is included as > part of > > > EPEL and that's where most CentOS users consume it from. The > problem is > > > that cloud-init and related bits are critical for building > images to run > > > on a public or private cloud, and we need to build early guest > > > initialization tools into the cloud images we produce. Ideally > this does > > > not include adding EPEL or packages from EPEL which have not been > > > rebuilt in our build systems. > > > > > > So, the proposal that there's general consensus upon within > the SIG is > > > to maintain cloud-init, its dependencies, and any related > packages on > > > git.centos.org <http://git.centos.org> <http://git.centos.org> <http://git.centos.org> > and rebuild them ourselves. > > I'm one of the maintainers in > > > EPEL so I offered to maintain the git repos for CentOS, anyone > else who > > > would like to be involved in more than welcome to step up. > > > > I'm the EPEL maintainer of cloud-utils and cloud-initramfs-tools and > > I'm willing to maintain those packages and their dependencies for > > CentOS with the goal to keep them in sync. > > Awesome, thanks! > > > > > ...Juerg > > > > > Thoughts, questions, concerns? > > > > > > -s > > > _______________________________________________ > > > CentOS-devel mailing list > > > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org>> > <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org>>> > > > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CentOS-devel mailing list > > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org>> > > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS-devel mailing list > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org>> > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel > > > > > -- > Shake Chen > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS-devel mailing list > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel _______________________________________________ CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel-- Shake Chen
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On 5/6/14, 2:27 PM, Shake Chen wrote:
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Sam Kottler <s@shk.io mailto:s@shk.io> wrote:
On 5/6/14, 8:10 AM, Shake Chen wrote: > Hi > > Now the image whether support resize? > > CentOS can provide rpm > for https://github.com/flegmatik/linux-rootfs-resize? How is it different from cloud-initramfs-tools? If you're interested in having included a repo, it seems like EPEL is the right place.have same feature with cloud-initramfs-tools, let image can been resize.
now cloud-initramfs-tools only in Fedora, I hope can include in EPEL repo.
Nope, it's also included in EPEL 6 [1]. It's not available for EL5 via EPEL, though.
1. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/cloud-initramfs-tools
I think the cloud image need include Cloud-init，cloud-utils and cloud-initramfs-tools.
> > > > > On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Sam Kottler <s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io> > <mailto:s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io>>> wrote: > > > On 5/5/14, 11:31 PM, Juerg Haefliger wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Sam Kottler <s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io> > <mailto:s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io>> > > <mailto:s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io> <mailto:s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io>>>> wrote: > > > > > > During the cloud instance SIG meeting today we talked about > future plans > > > for cloud-init in CentOS. Right now cloud-init is included as > part of > > > EPEL and that's where most CentOS users consume it from. The > problem is > > > that cloud-init and related bits are critical for building > images to run > > > on a public or private cloud, and we need to build early guest > > > initialization tools into the cloud images we produce. Ideally > this does > > > not include adding EPEL or packages from EPEL which have not been > > > rebuilt in our build systems. > > > > > > So, the proposal that there's general consensus upon within > the SIG is > > > to maintain cloud-init, its dependencies, and any related > packages on > > > git.centos.org <http://git.centos.org> <http://git.centos.org> <http://git.centos.org> > and rebuild them ourselves. > > I'm one of the maintainers in > > > EPEL so I offered to maintain the git repos for CentOS, anyone > else who > > > would like to be involved in more than welcome to step up. > > > > I'm the EPEL maintainer of cloud-utils and cloud-initramfs-tools and > > I'm willing to maintain those packages and their dependencies for > > CentOS with the goal to keep them in sync. > > Awesome, thanks! > > > > > ...Juerg > > > > > Thoughts, questions, concerns? > > > > > > -s > > > _______________________________________________ > > > CentOS-devel mailing list > > > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org>> > <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org>>> > > > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CentOS-devel mailing list > > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org>> > > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS-devel mailing list > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org>> > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel > > > > > -- > Shake Chen > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS-devel mailing list > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel _______________________________________________ CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel-- Shake Chen
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On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Sam Kottler s@shk.io wrote:
On 5/6/14, 2:27 PM, Shake Chen wrote:
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Sam Kottler <s@shk.io mailto:s@shk.io> wrote:
On 5/6/14, 8:10 AM, Shake Chen wrote: > Hi > > Now the image whether support resize? > > CentOS can provide rpm > for https://github.com/flegmatik/linux-rootfs-resize? How is it different from cloud-initramfs-tools? If you're interested in having included a repo, it seems like EPEL is the right place.have same feature with cloud-initramfs-tools, let image can been resize.
now cloud-initramfs-tools only in Fedora, I hope can include in EPEL
repo.
Nope, it's also included in EPEL 6 [1]. It's not available for EL5 via EPEL, though.
That's because there's no easy way to customize an initrd in CentOS/RHEL5. And nobody asked for it yet :-)
...Juerg
I think the cloud image need include Cloud-init，cloud-utils and cloud-initramfs-tools.
> > > > > On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Sam Kottler <s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io> > <mailto:s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io>>> wrote: > > > On 5/5/14, 11:31 PM, Juerg Haefliger wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Sam Kottler <s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io> > <mailto:s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io>> > > <mailto:s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io> <mailto:s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io>>>> wrote: > > > > > > During the cloud instance SIG meeting today we talked about > future plans > > > for cloud-init in CentOS. Right now cloud-init is included as > part of > > > EPEL and that's where most CentOS users consume it from. The > problem is > > > that cloud-init and related bits are critical for building > images to run > > > on a public or private cloud, and we need to build early guest > > > initialization tools into the cloud images we produce. Ideally > this does > > > not include adding EPEL or packages from EPEL which have not been > > > rebuilt in our build systems. > > > > > > So, the proposal that there's general consensus upon within > the SIG is > > > to maintain cloud-init, its dependencies, and any related > packages on > > > git.centos.org <http://git.centos.org> <http://git.centos.org> <http://git.centos.org> > and rebuild them ourselves. > > I'm one of the maintainers in > > > EPEL so I offered to maintain the git repos for CentOS, anyone > else who > > > would like to be involved in more than welcome to step up. > > > > I'm the EPEL maintainer of cloud-utils and cloud-initramfs-tools and > > I'm willing to maintain those packages and their dependencies
for
> > CentOS with the goal to keep them in sync. > > Awesome, thanks! > > > > > ...Juerg > > > > > Thoughts, questions, concerns? > > > > > > -s > > > _______________________________________________ > > > CentOS-devel mailing list > > > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org>> > <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org>>> > > > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CentOS-devel mailing list > > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org>> > > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS-devel mailing list > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org>> > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel > > > > > -- > Shake Chen > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS-devel mailing list > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel _______________________________________________ CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel-- Shake Chen
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I check the EPEL 6 and can not find the cloud-initramfs-tools in http://repos.fedorapeople.org/
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Juerg Haefliger juergh@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Sam Kottler s@shk.io wrote:
On 5/6/14, 2:27 PM, Shake Chen wrote:
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Sam Kottler <s@shk.io mailto:s@shk.io> wrote:
On 5/6/14, 8:10 AM, Shake Chen wrote: > Hi > > Now the image whether support resize? > > CentOS can provide rpm > for https://github.com/flegmatik/linux-rootfs-resize? How is it different from cloud-initramfs-tools? If you're interested in having included a repo, it seems like EPEL is the right place.have same feature with cloud-initramfs-tools, let image can been
resize.
now cloud-initramfs-tools only in Fedora, I hope can include in EPEL
repo.
Nope, it's also included in EPEL 6 [1]. It's not available for EL5 via EPEL, though.
That's because there's no easy way to customize an initrd in CentOS/RHEL5. And nobody asked for it yet :-)
...Juerg
I think the cloud image need include Cloud-init，cloud-utils and cloud-initramfs-tools.
> > > > > On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Sam Kottler <s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io> > <mailto:s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io>>> wrote: > > > On 5/5/14, 11:31 PM, Juerg Haefliger wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Sam Kottler <s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io> > <mailto:s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io>> > > <mailto:s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io> <mailto:s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io>>>> wrote: > > > > > > During the cloud instance SIG meeting today we talked about > future plans > > > for cloud-init in CentOS. Right now cloud-init is included as > part of > > > EPEL and that's where most CentOS users consume it from. The > problem is > > > that cloud-init and related bits are critical for building > images to run > > > on a public or private cloud, and we need to build earlyguest
> > > initialization tools into the cloud images we produce.Ideally
> this does > > > not include adding EPEL or packages from EPEL which have not been > > > rebuilt in our build systems. > > > > > > So, the proposal that there's general consensus upon within > the SIG is > > > to maintain cloud-init, its dependencies, and any related > packages on > > > git.centos.org <http://git.centos.org> <http://git.centos.org> <http://git.centos.org> > and rebuild them ourselves. > > I'm one of the maintainers in > > > EPEL so I offered to maintain the git repos for CentOS,anyone
> else who > > > would like to be involved in more than welcome to step up. > > > > I'm the EPEL maintainer of cloud-utils and cloud-initramfs-tools and > > I'm willing to maintain those packages and their dependenciesfor
> > CentOS with the goal to keep them in sync. > > Awesome, thanks! > > > > > ...Juerg > > > > > Thoughts, questions, concerns? > > > > > > -s > > > _______________________________________________ > > > CentOS-devel mailing list > > > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org>> > <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org>>> > > > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CentOS-devel mailing list > > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org>> > > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS-devel mailing list > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org>> > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel > > > > > -- > Shake Chen > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS-devel mailing list > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel _______________________________________________ CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel-- Shake Chen
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On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Shake Chen shake.chen@gmail.com wrote:
I check the EPEL 6 and can not find the cloud-initramfs-tools in
http://repos.fedorapeople.org/
cloud-initramfs-tools is the name of the source RPM. The binary (subpackage) is called dracut-modules-growroot.
...Juerg
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Juerg Haefliger juergh@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Sam Kottler s@shk.io wrote:
On 5/6/14, 2:27 PM, Shake Chen wrote:
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Sam Kottler <s@shk.io mailto:s@shk.io> wrote:
On 5/6/14, 8:10 AM, Shake Chen wrote: > Hi > > Now the image whether support resize? > > CentOS can provide rpm > for https://github.com/flegmatik/linux-rootfs-resize? How is it different from cloud-initramfs-tools? If you're interested in having included a repo, it seems like EPEL is the right place.have same feature with cloud-initramfs-tools, let image can been
resize.
now cloud-initramfs-tools only in Fedora, I hope can include in EPEL
repo.
Nope, it's also included in EPEL 6 [1]. It's not available for EL5 via EPEL, though.
That's because there's no easy way to customize an initrd in
CentOS/RHEL5. And nobody asked for it yet :-)
...Juerg
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/cloud-initramfs-tools
I think the cloud image need include Cloud-init，cloud-utils and cloud-initramfs-tools.
> > > > > On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Sam Kottler <s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io> > <mailto:s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io>>> wrote: > > > On 5/5/14, 11:31 PM, Juerg Haefliger wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Sam Kottler <s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io> > <mailto:s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io>> > > <mailto:s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io> <mailto:s@shk.io <mailto:s@shk.io>>>> wrote: > > > > > > During the cloud instance SIG meeting today we talked about > future plans > > > for cloud-init in CentOS. Right now cloud-init is included
as
> part of > > > EPEL and that's where most CentOS users consume it from.
The
> problem is > > > that cloud-init and related bits are critical for building > images to run > > > on a public or private cloud, and we need to build early
guest
> > > initialization tools into the cloud images we produce.
Ideally
> this does > > > not include adding EPEL or packages from EPEL which have
not
been > > > rebuilt in our build systems. > > > > > > So, the proposal that there's general consensus upon within > the SIG is > > > to maintain cloud-init, its dependencies, and any related > packages on > > > git.centos.org <http://git.centos.org> <http://git.centos.org> <http://git.centos.org> > and rebuild them ourselves. > > I'm one of the maintainers in > > > EPEL so I offered to maintain the git repos for CentOS,
anyone
> else who > > > would like to be involved in more than welcome to step up. > > > > I'm the EPEL maintainer of cloud-utils and cloud-initramfs-tools and > > I'm willing to maintain those packages and their
dependencies for
> > CentOS with the goal to keep them in sync. > > Awesome, thanks! > > > > > ...Juerg > > > > > Thoughts, questions, concerns? > > > > > > -s > > > _______________________________________________ > > > CentOS-devel mailing list > > > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org>> > <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org<mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> > > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CentOS-devel mailing list > > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org>> > > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS-devel mailing list > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org>> > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel > > > > > -- > Shake Chen > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS-devel mailing list > CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel _______________________________________________ CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-devel@centos.org> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel-- Shake Chen
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On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Juerg Haefliger juergh@gmail.com wrote:
dracut-modules-growroot
Thanks and I would test it later.
On 05/05/2014 06:31 PM, Juerg Haefliger wrote:
I'm the EPEL maintainer of cloud-utils and cloud-initramfs-tools and I'm willing to maintain those packages and their dependencies for CentOS with the goal to keep them in sync.
hi guys,
thanks for offering to do this. I've got the buildsystem stuff in place - for now were just going to use the existing build service, I've added a few more builder nodes - so there should not be a capacity issue.
however, a flip side is that there is no way to easily allow external code to be imported as a bootstrap, I will need to run the imports by hand for the first import - then you guys should be able to manage and maintain the repos from there on ( i realise this isnt a scaleable solution, but rather than wait on a new beautiful solution, I'm all for getting started instead ).
With that in mind, can you please open an issue at bugs.centos.org - use project: Buildsys and Category : New package import. List the srpms to import, ideally with their sha256sums. I will run the import and followup with a process-to-manage document.
regards,
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