hi,
we've had the centos-announce list as the primary announcement format for a long long time, pretty much as long as the project has exited. We've also tried other means but the announce list has stayed the primary format to get offiical news etc.
I'm wondering if we can do better, specially since we seem to have a very small percentage of the userbase is in touch with us. How can we better engage with the larger userbase out there ? facebook/twitter also have their limitations, as do blogs.
is there something else out there that might help us do a better job of getting news and security info out to users who are most impacted by such issues ?
- KB
Hi Maybe you could send a mail to everyone registered in the fora ? And this is also available for fora in other languages ? J
De : Karanbir Singh mail-lists@karan.org À : centos-devel@centos.org Envoyé le : Jeudi 1 octobre 2015 17h36 Objet : [CentOS-devel] getting better at user engagement / announcements
hi,
we've had the centos-announce list as the primary announcement format for a long long time, pretty much as long as the project has exited. We've also tried other means but the announce list has stayed the primary format to get offiical news etc.
I'm wondering if we can do better, specially since we seem to have a very small percentage of the userbase is in touch with us. How can we better engage with the larger userbase out there ? facebook/twitter also have their limitations, as do blogs.
is there something else out there that might help us do a better job of getting news and security info out to users who are most impacted by such issues ?
- KB
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On 01/10/15 21:35, john tatt wrote:
Hi
Maybe you could send a mail to everyone registered in the fora ? And this is also available for fora in other languages ?
J
Hi John,
Well, I'm not sure that automatically sending notifications for people subscribed to forum/fora would be a good idea : I like the idea that someone can just opt-in for such mail notification. OTOH, some people (like you for fr.centos.org, and thanks for that) can play a kind of "bridge role" between such lists and fora (where a post/topic can be created so that people using forum/fora can be aware, while still not themselves receiving mails that they don't subscribed to)
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On 02/10/15 08:33, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
On 01/10/15 21:35, john tatt wrote:
Hi
Maybe you could send a mail to everyone registered in the fora ? And this is also available for fora in other languages ?
J
Hi John,
Well, I'm not sure that automatically sending notifications for people subscribed to forum/fora would be a good idea : I like the idea that someone can just opt-in for such mail notification. OTOH, some people (like you for fr.centos.org, and thanks for that) can play a kind of "bridge role" between such lists and fora (where a post/topic can be created so that people using forum/fora can be aware, while still not themselves receiving mails that they don't subscribed to)
the newsletter sort of format might be good though, specially if we make it easy for people to opt out of. I think quite a few forums do this already.
Maybe worth a test.
does the software we run at centos.org support something of this nature ? specially the opt out part..
- KB
On 02/10/15 09:51, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 02/10/15 08:33, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
On 01/10/15 21:35, john tatt wrote:
Hi Maybe you could send a mail to everyone registered in the fora ? And this is also available for fora in other languages ? J
Hi John,
Well, I'm not sure that automatically sending notifications for people subscribed to forum/fora would be a good idea : I like the idea that someone can just opt-in for such mail notification. OTOH, some people (like you for fr.centos.org, and thanks for that) can play a kind of "bridge role" between such lists and fora (where a post/topic can be created so that people using forum/fora can be aware, while still not themselves receiving mails that they don't subscribed to)
the newsletter sort of format might be good though, specially if we make it easy for people to opt out of. I think quite a few forums do this already.
Maybe worth a test.
does the software we run at centos.org support something of this nature ? specially the opt out part..
I don't think it's either supported nor do I think it's a good idea. No-one who has signed up for the forums has explicitly signed up to receive mail from us on other subjects other than password resets etc so it would effectively be unsolicited SPAM. In addition the actual hit rate for getting to real users will be extremely low as we currently have over 66,000 users signed up but I would bet that not more than 1 in 10 of those are real users, the rest are spammers signed up by automated bots. The back scatter from a blunderbuss approach to contacting them would be enormous.
Trevor
Hi May be we could use an phpBB extension like "phpBB Board Annoucements" ?
De : Trevor Hemsley trevor.hemsley@ntlworld.com À : The CentOS developers mailing list. centos-devel@centos.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 2 octobre 2015 12h15 Objet : Re: [CentOS-devel] getting better at user engagement / announcements
On 02/10/15 09:51, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 02/10/15 08:33, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
On 01/10/15 21:35, john tatt wrote:
Hi Maybe you could send a mail to everyone registered in the fora ? And this is also available for fora in other languages ? J
Hi John,
Well, I'm not sure that automatically sending notifications for people subscribed to forum/fora would be a good idea : I like the idea that someone can just opt-in for such mail notification. OTOH, some people (like you for fr.centos.org, and thanks for that) can play a kind of "bridge role" between such lists and fora (where a post/topic can be created so that people using forum/fora can be aware, while still not themselves receiving mails that they don't subscribed to)
the newsletter sort of format might be good though, specially if we make it easy for people to opt out of. I think quite a few forums do this already.
Maybe worth a test.
does the software we run at centos.org support something of this nature ? specially the opt out part..
I don't think it's either supported nor do I think it's a good idea. No-one who has signed up for the forums has explicitly signed up to receive mail from us on other subjects other than password resets etc so it would effectively be unsolicited SPAM. In addition the actual hit rate for getting to real users will be extremely low as we currently have over 66,000 users signed up but I would bet that not more than 1 in 10 of those are real users, the rest are spammers signed up by automated bots. The back scatter from a blunderbuss approach to contacting them would be enormous.
Trevor
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On 01.10.2015 17:36, Karanbir Singh wrote:
is there something else out there that might help us do a better job of getting news and security info out to users who are most impacted by such issues ?
- KB
Hi,
maybe I'm a little bit of an old school user, but I would like news and announcement on your main website: centos.org ;)
why not also put them there? I also like the announcement ML, but the website could get it own news section for stuff like this.
regarding the idea to mail all forum users (I'm not one of them):
I don't think this is a good idea, as already said, it's spam if you have no agreement from your users to send such mail.
kind regards
Sven
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