What is the long term plan for inclusion of Python 3?
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Thomas F Herbert therbert@redhat.com wrote:
What is the long term plan for inclusion of Python 3?
For CentOS? I do not think CentOS has such long-term plans of its own. It follows RHEL, which partially follows Fedora, which has, among other things:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Platform_Python_Stack
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/System_Python
For specific uses, you can also use SCL, today:
https://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories/SCL
Best,
-- Thomas F Herbert NFV and Fast Data Planes Office of Technology Red Hat
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On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 07:44:00AM -0400, Thomas F Herbert wrote:
What is the long term plan for inclusion of Python 3?
Python 3 is available in the SCL repos. The /usr/bin/python in CentOS6 and CentOS7 are very unlikely to ever be changed from Python 2.x, due to how most of the management tools for RHEL/CentOS are written in Python 2.x.
On 09/25/2017 10:05 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
Python 3 is available in the SCL repos. The /usr/bin/python in CentOS6 and CentOS7 are very unlikely to ever be changed from Python 2.x, due to how most of the management tools for RHEL/CentOS are written in Python 2.x.
Johathon, Thanks for the suggestion. However, I am trying to build a package for Centos distribution and an upstream change now requires Python 3 during the build process. I think that SCL is in extras or EPEL isn't it?
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Thomas F Herbert therbert@redhat.com wrote:
On 09/25/2017 10:05 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
Python 3 is available in the SCL repos. The /usr/bin/python in CentOS6 and CentOS7 are very unlikely to ever be changed from Python 2.x, due to how most of the management tools for RHEL/CentOS are written in Python 2.x.
Johathon, Thanks for the suggestion. However, I am trying to build a package for Centos distribution and an upstream change now requires Python 3 during the build process. I think that SCL is in extras or EPEL isn't it?
It's a separate repository, which CentOS rebuilds from Red Hat published content, much like the rest of CentOS. See https://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories/SCL
The command "yum install centos-release-scl" is your friend for access to the tools. A good look at the SRPM's over at http://vault.centos.org/ is invaluable for the build structure. Setting up "mock" to build them locally, I can ount you to some github repos that are helpful if you like.
-- Thomas F Herbert NFV and Fast Data Planes Office of Technology Red Hat
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
On 09/28/2017 10:22 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Thomas F Herbert therbert@redhat.com wrote:
On 09/25/2017 10:05 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
Python 3 is available in the SCL repos. The /usr/bin/python in CentOS6 and CentOS7 are very unlikely to ever be changed from Python 2.x, due to how most of the management tools for RHEL/CentOS are written in Python 2.x.
Johathon, Thanks for the suggestion. However, I am trying to build a package for Centos distribution and an upstream change now requires Python 3 during the build process. I think that SCL is in extras or EPEL isn't it?
It's a separate repository, which CentOS rebuilds from Red Hat published content, much like the rest of CentOS. See https://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories/SCL
The command "yum install centos-release-scl" is your friend for access to the tools. A good look at the SRPM's over at http://vault.centos.org/ is invaluable for the build structure. Setting up "mock" to build them locally, I can ount you to some github repos that are helpful if you like.
Nico, Thanks for the pointer.
I haven't yet found a SRPM in the 7.4.1408 vault that is not part of SCL itself which has a dependency on software collections or python3x. Do you know of one?
To emphasize, we are building nfv7 tagged vpp packages for Centos as follows: http://cbs.centos.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=19838
Are you recommending that we provide our package as part of scl as an alternative? So far our plan is to disable the new python3 dependent feature until Centos8 release so somebody downloading NFV packages wouldn't require anything other then Centos base packages.
-- Thomas F Herbert NFV and Fast Data Planes Office of Technology Red Hat
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
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On 10/04/2017 09:34 PM, Thomas F Herbert wrote:
I haven't yet found a SRPM in the 7.4.1408 vault that is not part of SCL itself which has a dependency on software collections or python3x. Do you know of one?
As far as I know, there is only one: webkitgtk4, which depends on devtoolset-6-gcc and friends
Jacco
On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Thomas F Herbert therbert@redhat.com wrote:
On 09/28/2017 10:22 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Thomas F Herbert therbert@redhat.com wrote:
On 09/25/2017 10:05 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
Python 3 is available in the SCL repos. The /usr/bin/python in CentOS6 and CentOS7 are very unlikely to ever be changed from Python 2.x, due to how most of the management tools for RHEL/CentOS are written in Python 2.x.
Johathon, Thanks for the suggestion. However, I am trying to build a package for Centos distribution and an upstream change now requires Python 3 during the build process. I think that SCL is in extras or EPEL isn't it?
It's a separate repository, which CentOS rebuilds from Red Hat published content, much like the rest of CentOS. See https://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories/SCL
The command "yum install centos-release-scl" is your friend for access to the tools. A good look at the SRPM's over at http://vault.centos.org/ is invaluable for the build structure. Setting up "mock" to build them locally, I can ount you to some github repos that are helpful if you like.
Nico, Thanks for the pointer.
I haven't yet found a SRPM in the 7.4.1408 vault that is not part of SCL itself which has a dependency on software collections or python3x. Do you know of one?
To emphasize, we are building nfv7 tagged vpp packages for Centos as follows: http://cbs.centos.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=19838
Are you recommending that we provide our package as part of scl as an alternative? So far our plan is to disable the new python3 dependent feature until Centos8 release so somebody downloading NFV packages wouldn't require anything other then Centos base packages.
-- Thomas F Herbert NFV and Fast Data Planes Office of Technology Red Hat
So, you build a local RPM and SRPM using the scl repositories and structure. It would use the same build tools and the same /opt/rh/python33/ or similar locations.
There are a stack of these I built up for the "airflow" python software, for an employer, at https://github.com/SkyhookWireless/airflowrepobuilder/. They use "mock" to do the builds, and have configurations to set up mock configurations for both sclo repositories and a local repository.
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