Hi folks - we are moving the CentOS Automotive SIG meeting to Matrix chat going forward. Currently it will be at the same time - first Wednesdays of each month at 1400 UTC = 10:00am EDT, 16:00 CEST. The difference is that instead of a call, the meeting will be held on our Matrix channel at
https://app.element.io/?updated=1.11.3#/room/#centos-automotive-sig:fedorapr...
I'll change the meeting invite today. If you have any trouble reaching the channel or need any help, please reach out to myself or Leo.
best,
Jeffrey "Jefro" Osier-Mixon | josiermi@redhat.com Distinguished Community Architect Automotive, Edge, & Hardware Enablement Communities Red Hat Open Source & AI Program Office Book a meeting: https://calendar.app.google/sMBa7Xe8CLSEUdGV9
On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 9:16 AM Jeffrey Osier-Mixon via devel devel@lists.centos.org wrote:
Hi folks - we are moving the CentOS Automotive SIG meeting to Matrix chat going forward. Currently it will be at the same time - first Wednesdays of each month at 1400 UTC = 10:00am EDT, 16:00 CEST. The difference is that instead of a call, the meeting will be held on our Matrix channel at
https://app.element.io/?updated=1.11.3#/room/#centos-automotive-sig:fedorapr...
I'll change the meeting invite today. If you have any trouble reaching the channel or need any help, please reach out to myself or Leo.
Could you please use one of the meeting rooms instead? That way there's the ability to leverage the meeting bot and logging in meetbot.fedoraproject.org.
On May 26, 2026 at 9:22:52 AM, Neal Gompa (ngompa13@gmail.com) wrote:
On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 9:16 AM Jeffrey Osier-Mixon via devel devel@lists.centos.org wrote:
Hi folks - we are moving the CentOS Automotive SIG meeting to Matrix chat
going forward. Currently it will be at the same time - first Wednesdays of each month at 1400 UTC = 10:00am EDT, 16:00 CEST. The difference is that instead of a call, the meeting will be held on our Matrix channel at
https://app.element.io/?updated=1.11.3#/room/#centos-automotive-sig:fedorapr...
I'll change the meeting invite today. If you have any trouble reaching
the channel or need any help, please reach out to myself or Leo.
Could you please use one of the meeting rooms instead? That way there's the ability to leverage the meeting bot and logging in meetbot.fedoraproject.org.
I dislike this move as I see Matrix as an outdated communication platform that just keeps the same people talking to the same people who are already there.
Where is the Automotive Open source community talking? where are the people who don't know Linux that we want to introduce to AutoSD so that we can make a bigger impact.
Going to where we already are feels like a regression. Could be worse.
But I'll see you there since i'm there anyways. As Neil says, fedora-meeting-1
-Jeff
Sounds good, thanks, we can definitely use a meeting room.
I would call this less a regression and more a response to the community's expressed preference. Meeting attendance has declined significantly - we aren't having those discussions in the automotive SIG, which we started before things like Eclipse SDV existed. I would love to reel them back in. One reason we wanted to move this meeting to Matrix is to encourage further communication, as many people have conflicts for a physical meeting who would otherwise be able to attend one on chat. Also willing to move the time around, but every time is bad for someone.
In regard to the other questions about where people are talking and where we should introduce AutoSD, let's cover that in next week's meeting :)
Jeffrey "Jefro" Osier-Mixon | josiermi@redhat.com Distinguished Community Architect Automotive, Edge, & Hardware Enablement Communities Red Hat Open Source & AI Program Office Book a meeting: https://calendar.app.google/sMBa7Xe8CLSEUdGV9
On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 9:31 AM Jeff Ligon via devel devel@lists.centos.org wrote:
On May 26, 2026 at 9:22:52 AM, Neal Gompa (ngompa13@gmail.com) wrote:
On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 9:16 AM Jeffrey Osier-Mixon via devel devel@lists.centos.org wrote:
Hi folks - we are moving the CentOS Automotive SIG meeting to Matrix
chat going forward. Currently it will be at the same time - first Wednesdays of each month at 1400 UTC = 10:00am EDT, 16:00 CEST. The difference is that instead of a call, the meeting will be held on our Matrix channel at
https://app.element.io/?updated=1.11.3#/room/#centos-automotive-sig:fedorapr...
I'll change the meeting invite today. If you have any trouble reaching
the channel or need any help, please reach out to myself or Leo.
Could you please use one of the meeting rooms instead? That way there's the ability to leverage the meeting bot and logging in meetbot.fedoraproject.org.
I dislike this move as I see Matrix as an outdated communication platform that just keeps the same people talking to the same people who are already there.
Where is the Automotive Open source community talking? where are the people who don't know Linux that we want to introduce to AutoSD so that we can make a bigger impact.
Going to where we already are feels like a regression. Could be worse.
But I'll see you there since i'm there anyways. As Neil says, fedora-meeting-1
-Jeff
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On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 9:46 AM Jeffrey Osier-Mixon jefro@redhat.com wrote:
Sounds good, thanks, we can definitely use a meeting room.
I would call this less a regression and more a response to the community's expressed preference. Meeting attendance has declined significantly - we aren't having those discussions in the automotive SIG, which we started before things like Eclipse SDV existed. I would love to reel them back in. One reason we wanted to move this meeting to Matrix is to encourage further communication, as many people have conflicts for a physical meeting who would otherwise be able to attend one on chat. Also willing to move the time around, but every time is bad for someone.
In regard to the other questions about where people are talking and where we should introduce AutoSD, let's cover that in next week's meeting :)
Is there yet a way for people to do something with AutoSD that doesn't involve being an automaker? Like affordable RC cars or something like that? It's rather hard to hold a community together that can't do anything...
Of course. In addition to AutoSD being used in several other open source communities (Eclipse SDV, SOAFEE, Autoware) it is of strong interest to other transportation entities - think trains, farming equipment - as well as robotics applications. To my knowledge no one has deployed it on an RC car but there is no reason not to. We had some discussions internally a few years ago about f1tenth. It would have to be a community effort, though.
Jeffrey "Jefro" Osier-Mixon | josiermi@redhat.com Distinguished Community Architect Automotive, Edge, & Hardware Enablement Communities Red Hat Open Source & AI Program Office Book a meeting: https://calendar.app.google/sMBa7Xe8CLSEUdGV9
On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 10:20 AM Neal Gompa ngompa13@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 9:46 AM Jeffrey Osier-Mixon jefro@redhat.com wrote:
Sounds good, thanks, we can definitely use a meeting room.
I would call this less a regression and more a response to the
community's expressed preference. Meeting attendance has declined significantly - we aren't having those discussions in the automotive SIG, which we started before things like Eclipse SDV existed. I would love to reel them back in. One reason we wanted to move this meeting to Matrix is to encourage further communication, as many people have conflicts for a physical meeting who would otherwise be able to attend one on chat. Also willing to move the time around, but every time is bad for someone.
In regard to the other questions about where people are talking and
where we should introduce AutoSD, let's cover that in next week's meeting :)
Is there yet a way for people to do something with AutoSD that doesn't involve being an automaker? Like affordable RC cars or something like that? It's rather hard to hold a community together that can't do anything...
-- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!
On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 10:30 AM Jeffrey Osier-Mixon jefro@redhat.com wrote:
Of course. In addition to AutoSD being used in several other open source communities (Eclipse SDV, SOAFEE, Autoware) it is of strong interest to other transportation entities - think trains, farming equipment - as well as robotics applications. To my knowledge no one has deployed it on an RC car but there is no reason not to. We had some discussions internally a few years ago about f1tenth. It would have to be a community effort, though.
As long as there's nothing people can tangibly use it with, it's going to be hard to attract and retain enthusiast contributors. Do you have anything you can show off so people can actively work with it in a meaningfully similar way to how it would be used normally?
-- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!
While I agree, I would also say that "tangibly" is open to interpretation. "used normally" in this case really means "can it be built into a reasonable SDV architecture", which is mostly in the domain of automotive manufacturers and suppliers rather than individual enthusiasts. AutoSD's prevalence in SOAFEE and Eclipse SDV is definitely tangible in community terms, but you cant really put your hands on it or make smoke come out. For the latter, a larger community effort would be necessary. That said, if someone in the community wants to use it for something fun, I'd be glad to help hunt for resources to support such an effort.
Jeffrey "Jefro" Osier-Mixon | josiermi@redhat.com Distinguished Community Architect Automotive, Edge, & Hardware Enablement Communities Red Hat Open Source & AI Program Office Book a meeting: https://calendar.app.google/sMBa7Xe8CLSEUdGV9
On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 11:07 AM Neal Gompa ngompa13@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 10:30 AM Jeffrey Osier-Mixon jefro@redhat.com wrote:
Of course. In addition to AutoSD being used in several other open source
communities (Eclipse SDV, SOAFEE, Autoware) it is of strong interest to other transportation entities - think trains, farming equipment - as well as robotics applications. To my knowledge no one has deployed it on an RC car but there is no reason not to. We had some discussions internally a few years ago about f1tenth. It would have to be a community effort, though.
As long as there's nothing people can tangibly use it with, it's going to be hard to attract and retain enthusiast contributors. Do you have anything you can show off so people can actively work with it in a meaningfully similar way to how it would be used normally?
-- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!
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