Re: [CentOS-devel] Is advanced-virt (Virtualization SIG) not relevant anymore with latest CentOS Stream 8?
Hi Danilo,
Thanks for the very quick response! And thanks Sandro for including relevant people (as it was hard for me to find appropriate emails).
Have a great day,
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 2:04 PM Danilo de Paula ddepaula@redhat.com wrote:
Yes, until RHEL 8.5 the latest-and-greatest virt packages used to be shipped within Advanced Virtualization. But since AV packages are part of RHEL now, there's no need for updating the SIG anymore because RHEL has the most updated packages and, by consequence, c8s should have those builds too.
On Tue., Nov. 16, 2021, 7:25 a.m. Sandro Bonazzola, sbonazzo@redhat.com wrote:
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Il giorno mar 16 nov 2021 alle ore 12:52 Igor Raits igor.raits@gmail.com ha scritto:
Hello,
I've noticed that the latest c8s repos ship libvirt/qemu-kvm (and other related things) newer than the advanced virtualization repository… which brings me to a question if it is still worth using those builds or not?
I've been trying to dig into some mailing list conversations (which are pretty much non-existent at this point) and IRC meetings (which I did not see in October, but found one in November[1]). Found only mention that libvirt/qemu will not be available for power arches since c9s and that's what probably virt sig will build (if my understanding of meeting minutes are correct).
Any piece of information would be very helpful :)
[1] https://www.centos.org/minutes/2021/November/centos-meeting.2021-11-03-17.03...
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I'm trying to square this with my not being able to find this update:
https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2021:2098
which has libvirt-7.0.0-14.module+el8.4.0+10886+79296686 and is listed for:
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Advanced Virtualization 8
which I don't see on my RHEL 8 machines:
Available Packages libvirt.x86_64 6.0.0-37.module+el8.5.0+12162+40884dd2 rhel-8-for-x86_64-appstream-rpms
I do have a very updated libvirt on my CentOS Stream 8 machine:
libvirt-7.10.0-1.module_el8.6.0+1046....
Any more insight would be appreciated, thanks.
On 11/16/21 06:11, Igor Raits wrote:
Hi Danilo,
Thanks for the very quick response! And thanks Sandro for including relevant people (as it was hard for me to find appropriate emails).
Have a great day,
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 2:04 PM Danilo de Paula <ddepaula@redhat.com mailto:ddepaula@redhat.com> wrote:
Yes, until RHEL 8.5 the latest-and-greatest virt packages used to be shipped within Advanced Virtualization. But since AV packages are part of RHEL now, there's no need for updating the SIG anymore because RHEL has the most updated packages and, by consequence, c8s should have those builds too. On Tue., Nov. 16, 2021, 7:25 a.m. Sandro Bonazzola, <sbonazzo@redhat.com <mailto:sbonazzo@redhat.com>> wrote: +Eduardo Lima <mailto:etrunko@redhat.com> +Danilo Cesar Lemes de Paula <mailto:ddepaula@redhat.com> Il giorno mar 16 nov 2021 alle ore 12:52 Igor Raits <igor.raits@gmail.com <mailto:igor.raits@gmail.com>> ha scritto: Hello, I've noticed that the latest c8s repos ship libvirt/qemu-kvm (and other related things) newer than the advanced virtualization repository… which brings me to a question if it is still worth using those builds or not? I've been trying to dig into some mailing list conversations (which are pretty much non-existent at this point) and IRC meetings (which I did not see in October, but found one in November[1]). Found only mention that libvirt/qemu will not be available for power arches since c9s and that's what probably virt sig will build (if my understanding of meeting minutes are correct). Any piece of information would be very helpful :) [1] https://www.centos.org/minutes/2021/November/centos-meeting.2021-11-03-17.03.log.html <https://www.centos.org/minutes/2021/November/centos-meeting.2021-11-03-17.03.log.html> -- Sandro Bonazzola MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA R&D RHV Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/> sbonazzo@redhat.com <mailto:sbonazzo@redhat.com> <https://www.redhat.com/> ** *Red Hat respects your work life balance. Therefore there is no need to answer this email out of your office hours. * * *
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On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 2:21 PM Orion Poplawski orion@nwra.com wrote:
I'm trying to square this with my not being able to find this update:
https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2021:2098
which has libvirt-7.0.0-14.module+el8.4.0+10886+79296686 and is listed for:
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Advanced Virtualization 8
which I don't see on my RHEL 8 machines:
Available Packages libvirt.x86_64 6.0.0-37.module+el8.5.0+12162+40884dd2 rhel-8-for-x86_64-appstream-rpms Any more insight would be appreciated, thanks.
To the best of my knowledge, this module version is not part of RHEL but from the RHEL Advanced Virtualization 8 product. If you don't have the "advanced-virt{,-crb}-for-rhel-8-x86_64-rpms" repositories, you will not see these packages.
On 1/31/22 12:46, Mike Rochefort wrote:
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 2:21 PM Orion Poplawski orion@nwra.com wrote:
I'm trying to square this with my not being able to find this update:
https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2021:2098
which has libvirt-7.0.0-14.module+el8.4.0+10886+79296686 and is listed for:
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Advanced Virtualization 8
which I don't see on my RHEL 8 machines:
Available Packages libvirt.x86_64 6.0.0-37.module+el8.5.0+12162+40884dd2 rhel-8-for-x86_64-appstream-rpms Any more insight would be appreciated, thanks.
To the best of my knowledge, this module version is not part of RHEL but from the RHEL Advanced Virtualization 8 product. If you don't have the "advanced-virt{,-crb}-for-rhel-8-x86_64-rpms" repositories, you will not see these packages.
This is what I was confused about:
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 2:04 PM Danilo de Paula <ddepaula@redhat.com mailto:ddepaula@redhat.com> wrote:
Yes, until RHEL 8.5 the latest-and-greatest virt packages used to be shipped within Advanced Virtualization. But since AV packages are part of RHEL now, there's no need for updating the SIG anymore because RHEL has the most updated packages
So, it seems that the latest-and-greated virt packages are still a part of the RHEL Advanced Virtualization 8 product and *not* a part of RHEL8 proper (though there are versions in the base product) as stated above?
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 5:42 PM Orion Poplawski orion@nwra.com wrote:
So, it seems that the latest-and-greated virt packages are still a part of the RHEL Advanced Virtualization 8 product and *not* a part of RHEL8 proper (though there are versions in the base product) as stated above?
By looking at what's going on in Stream, these changes for the "latest-and-greatest" convergence will be landing in RHEL 8.6 due out in a few months. Best guess either something happened or the "until" was meant to mean something else.
I don't know the decision making that's happening in the AV group or the roadmap/priorities, etc. Only from scraps I pick up and what's publicly posted on git.centos.org.
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