People,
Firstly, sorry for the cross-list post (centos-devel and centos-docs).
I'd like to reach you in order to ask for a formal authorization to use CentOS logo on GNOME Boxes[0]. GNOME Boxes already shows a few other distro's logos as you can check here[1].
Would be possible to get the explicit confirmation that we could use CentOS logo as well?
[0]: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Boxes [1]: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-boxes/raw/master/README.logos
Best Regards,
Bumping this thread in the hopes that we can get an official opinion from someone on the board.
In particular, the guidelines at https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo seem to indicate that we're not supposed to use the logo without the wordmark, but we do that all the time, even on official swag. What's the official ruling, and who can we go to for further clarification?
--Rich
On 6/19/18 7:29 AM, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:
People,
Firstly, sorry for the cross-list post (centos-devel and centos-docs).
I'd like to reach you in order to ask for a formal authorization to use CentOS logo on GNOME Boxes[0]. GNOME Boxes already shows a few other distro's logos as you can check here[1].
Would be possible to get the explicit confirmation that we could use CentOS logo as well?
Best Regards,
Thanks Rich for drawing this forward, I had missed it. (I generally handle all the trademark usage queries.)
The key reference is this one, the trademark guidelines:
https://www.centos.org/legal/trademarks/
That document should give the GNOME project all of the authorization and guidelines on how to use and not use the CentOS marks.
Fabiano -- if you have any further questions, you may also direct them to centos-tm@centos.org .
Rich -- it looks as if we need to update or clarify on the wiki around the appearance of the (R) in the marks. There is a link in a section there called "Usage Restrictions"[1] but it isn't terribly visible. I just added a new short paragraph at the top of the page referring to the guidelines.
Best regards,
- Karsten
[1] https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo#head-f379d7da0b5da9a7161148c5c9a0...
On 09/18/2018 07:23 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
Bumping this thread in the hopes that we can get an official opinion from someone on the board.
In particular, the guidelines at https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo seem to indicate that we're not supposed to use the logo without the wordmark, but we do that all the time, even on official swag. What's the official ruling, and who can we go to for further clarification?
--Rich
On 6/19/18 7:29 AM, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:
People,
Firstly, sorry for the cross-list post (centos-devel and centos-docs).
I'd like to reach you in order to ask for a formal authorization to use CentOS logo on GNOME Boxes[0]. GNOME Boxes already shows a few other distro's logos as you can check here[1].
Would be possible to get the explicit confirmation that we could use CentOS logo as well?
Best Regards,
Karsten,
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:45 PM, Karsten Wade kwade@redhat.com wrote:
Thanks Rich for drawing this forward, I had missed it. (I generally handle all the trademark usage queries.)
The key reference is this one, the trademark guidelines:
https://www.centos.org/legal/trademarks/
That document should give the GNOME project all of the authorization and guidelines on how to use and not use the CentOS marks.
Fabiano -- if you have any further questions, you may also direct them to centos-tm@centos.org .
Rich -- it looks as if we need to update or clarify on the wiki around the appearance of the (R) in the marks. There is a link in a section there called "Usage Restrictions"[1] but it isn't terribly visible. I just added a new short paragraph at the top of the page referring to the guidelines.
My understanding is that we can use all the CentOS marks provided here[0]. However, those unfortunately are not looking good enough on Boxes and we'd like to use, if possible, just the logo as in here[1]
Would that be possible? As far as I could understand that would be a violation of the trademark.
[0]: https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo#head-bf605cecf99c819d5a39e726ffb9... [1]: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:CentOS#/media/File:CentOS_color_...
Best regards,
- Karsten
[1] https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo#head-f379d7da0b5da9a7161148c5c9a0...
On 09/18/2018 07:23 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
Bumping this thread in the hopes that we can get an official opinion from someone on the board.
In particular, the guidelines at https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo seem to indicate that we're not supposed to use the logo without the wordmark, but we do that all the time, even on official swag. What's the official ruling, and who can we go to for further clarification?
--Rich
On 6/19/18 7:29 AM, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:
People,
Firstly, sorry for the cross-list post (centos-devel and centos-docs).
I'd like to reach you in order to ask for a formal authorization to use CentOS logo on GNOME Boxes[0]. GNOME Boxes already shows a few other distro's logos as you can check here[1].
Would be possible to get the explicit confirmation that we could use CentOS logo as well?
Best Regards,
-- Karsten Wade | Community Architect | @quaid Red Hat Open Source and Standards (OSAS) : @redhatopen https://community.redhat.com | https://next.redhat.com | https://osci.io gpg: AD0E0C41 | https://red.ht/sig
On 09/18/2018 11:03 AM, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:
My understanding is that we can use all the CentOS marks provided here[0]. However, those unfortunately are not looking good enough on Boxes and we'd like to use, if possible, just the logo as in here[1]
Would that be possible? As far as I could understand that would be a violation of the trademark.
Hi Fabiano,
Thanks for clarifying and that connects with what Rich said about how we've used just the graphic logo mark in practice but do not have a guideline that allows that on the ArtWork wiki.
This item is actually on my short list of things to clarify for the trademark guidelines and updates on the ArtWork page.
For the moment, we can pursue a specific permission for GNOME Boxes. Can you provide a mock-up of how it would appear on the page?
I'm looking at https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Boxes but am not sure how it would appear. Am I correct that the logo would appear when running the GNOME Boxes application inside of a GNOME session? If yes, is there also a corresponding use on the website? A mock-up from there would be useful as well.
Knowing that this has been missed for a few months, I'll work through the discussions on our side to expedite a decision for you.
Regards,
- Karsten
Karsten,
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 1:07 AM, Karsten Wade kwade@redhat.com wrote:
On 09/18/2018 11:03 AM, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:
My understanding is that we can use all the CentOS marks provided
here[0].
However, those unfortunately are not looking good enough on Boxes and we'd like to use, if possible, just the logo as in here[1]
Would that be possible? As far as I could understand that would be a violation of the trademark.
bf605cecf99c819d5a39e726ffb928999e1a13e6
File:CentOS_color_logo.svg
Hi Fabiano,
Thanks for clarifying and that connects with what Rich said about how we've used just the graphic logo mark in practice but do not have a guideline that allows that on the ArtWork wiki.
This item is actually on my short list of things to clarify for the trademark guidelines and updates on the ArtWork page.
For the moment, we can pursue a specific permission for GNOME Boxes. Can you provide a mock-up of how it would appear on the page?
It's not going to be in the GNOME Boxes page, but in the GNOME Boxes usage. Here is basically how CentOS is displayed Today: - https://fidencio.fedorapeople.org/centos/boxes_master.png
And these are the screenshots of what we would like to have: - https://fidencio.fedorapeople.org/centos/boxes_iso_centos_patch.png - https://fidencio.fedorapeople.org/centos/boxes_download_centos_patch.png
I'm looking at https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Boxes but am not sure how it would appear. Am I correct that the logo would appear when running the GNOME Boxes application inside of a GNOME session? If yes, is there also a corresponding use on the website? A mock-up from there would be useful as well.
It's just going to be used by GNOME Boxes application, which can be run inside a GNOME (or any other Desktop Environment) session. Hopefully the links provided above are enough to show what we want to have.
Knowing that this has been missed for a few months, I'll work through the discussions on our side to expedite a decision for you.
Regards,
- Karsten
-- Karsten Wade | Community Architect | @quaid Red Hat Open Source and Standards (OSAS) : @redhatopen https://community.redhat.com | https://next.redhat.com | https://osci.io gpg: AD0E0C41 | https://red.ht/sig
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
Also, would be really nice if we could either have an authorization to use the logo in the following format: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-boxes-logos/blob/master/README ... or have the provided logo under https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo#head-68f8a695d8fea47d6705a7b7010f... (which makes clear enough that we're authorized to use it).
Thanks a lot for having this thread moving!
Best Regards,