There has been a recent forum thread [1] where the OP has asked about the C-5 Testing Repository and the php packages contained therein.
When the time permits, would one of the core-devs please post a comment to that thread.
Having defocussed my eyes, I mentally see an image of Tru, Johnny, Karanbir, Ralph or Russ checking the quoted URL . . .
Regards, Alan.
[1] http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=24153&forum=4...
2010/1/11 Alan Bartlett ajb@elrepo.org:
There has been a recent forum thread [1] where the OP has asked about the C-5 Testing Repository and the php packages contained therein.
When the time permits, would one of the core-devs please post a comment to that thread.
Having defocussed my eyes, I mentally see an image of Tru, Johnny, Karanbir, Ralph or Russ checking the quoted URL . . .
Regards, Alan.
[1] http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=24153&forum=4...
I'll continue to talk to myself by mentioning that another contributor to the above thread, in post #7, has stated that:
"The PHP packages in the CentOS testing repo are outdated."
If that indeed is the case, perhaps they should be pulled -- if the original CentOS packager is unable to maintain them?
Alan.
On 12/01/10 17:49, Alan Bartlett wrote:
I'll continue to talk to myself by mentioning that another contributor to the above thread, in post #7, has stated that:
"The PHP packages in the CentOS testing repo are outdated."
outdated how ? were still following rhwas...
I was hoping to put some of these things together into its own 'silo' which would allow people to get 'just rhwas' and not the other bits from the testing repo.
Is it a case of meeting user-expectations ? if there really is a major interest in following the upstream ( i mean all the way, like php.net ) release ?
2010/1/12 Karanbir Singh mail-lists@karan.org:
On 12/01/10 17:49, Alan Bartlett wrote:
I'll continue to talk to myself by mentioning that another contributor to the above thread, in post #7, has stated that:
"The PHP packages in the CentOS testing repo are outdated."
outdated how ? were still following rhwas...
Obviously, KB, that is a question to be asked of the poster and not of me, the middle man.
I was hoping to put some of these things together into its own 'silo' which would allow people to get 'just rhwas' and not the other bits from the testing repo.
That sound good (to me).
Is it a case of meeting user-expectations ? if there really is a major interest in following the upstream ( i mean all the way, like php.net ) release ?
May I, therefore, take it that when you can find the time you will interact with the end-users?
I have, in my own way, suggested that users requiring information of this nature should ask their pertinent questions on this m/l. It seems, however, that some people are not happy to use this list.
Alan.
On 12/01/10 18:11, Alan Bartlett wrote:
May I, therefore, take it that when you can find the time you will interact with the end-users?
I try :/ but the forums just take up too much time to go through and i end up fighting the system more than the content itself.
I have, in my own way, suggested that users requiring information of this nature should ask their pertinent questions on this m/l. It seems, however, that some people are not happy to use this list.
humm wonder why that is.
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Karanbir Singh mail-lists@karan.org wrote:
On 12/01/10 18:11, Alan Bartlett wrote:
I have, in my own way, suggested that users requiring information of this nature should ask their pertinent questions on this m/l. It seems, however, that some people are not happy to use this list.
humm wonder why that is.
It's not just "this list" more general. :) Just like there are people (like yourself) who do not like the forum interface, there *are* people who do not like mailing lists. The fact CentOS provides both venues is blessing.
To attest what Alan said, I want to add my observations as well. At times, there are questions that cannot be answered by any of the helpers in the forums such as those that only CentOS devs/core admins can answer. Also, the mailing lists are supposed to have "thousands of experts" ( quoting your own words; I have yet to see all those thousands speak up on the lists ;-P ).
Anyway, I do ask forum posters to use the mailing list when that is the only option to get responses. In most cases, they don't bother. If the subject is important or something that comes up often, I then do a middle man just like Alan has done.
Akemi
2010/1/12 Karanbir Singh mail-lists@karan.org:
On 12/01/10 18:11, Alan Bartlett wrote:
May I, therefore, take it that when you can find the time you will interact with the end-users?
I try :/ but the forums just take up too much time to go through and i end up fighting the system more than the content itself.
I appreciate that.
In my case, I read all the major CentOS m/ls *with the exception* of the general m/l (for reasons that are irrelevant to this discussion) and rely on others to give me a bump if there is something therein that I really should read.
No one has the time to do everything / read everything, everywhere. Hence that is why there are persons, such as Akemi or myself, who will act the "middle man", if necessary.
I see that Akemi has (quite independently) expanded upon the reasoning for why I (we) occasionally post here in the above capacity.
And finally, although my initial post was to ask if one of the core-devs would please respond to the forum thread and mentioned the names of those in whose general direction I was looking, I note that you are the only one to respond. At times, KB, I sense that you try to do far too much for one person -- so perhaps one of the other previously mentioned names could find the time to explain the status of the php packages, still in the testing repo (even after we, forum helpers, have prompted many users of those packages to report their success to this m/l) and why they have not been promoted to C-Plus (or extra, whatever the appropriate location might be). ;-)
Alan.
Am Dienstag, den 12.01.2010, 18:49 +0100 schrieb Alan Bartlett:
2010/1/11 Alan Bartlett ajb@elrepo.org:
There has been a recent forum thread [1] where the OP has asked about the C-5 Testing Repository and the php packages contained therein.
When the time permits, would one of the core-devs please post a comment to that thread.
Having defocussed my eyes, I mentally see an image of Tru, Johnny, Karanbir, Ralph or Russ checking the quoted URL . . .
Regards, Alan.
[1] http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=24153&forum=4...
I'll continue to talk to myself by mentioning that another contributor to the above thread, in post #7, has stated that:
"The PHP packages in the CentOS testing repo are outdated."
If that indeed is the case, perhaps they should be pulled -- if the original CentOS packager is unable to maintain them?
Alan.
Actually i checked and rebuild the RHWAS php packages from upstream myself and it seems they can just go unmodified through the build process. I did not find any copyright,branding,whatever from upstream. Its just the vanilla php plus a few patches.
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On 12/01/10 18:00, Christoph Maser wrote:
Actually i checked and rebuild the RHWAS php packages from upstream myself and it seems they can just go unmodified through the build process. I did not find any copyright,branding,whatever from upstream. Its just the vanilla php plus a few patches.
Thats pretty much what I have as well. And the rhaws stuff is being tracked with the same tools as the main distro.
Karanbir Singh wrote on 01/12/2010 04:48 PM:
On 12/01/10 18:00, Christoph Maser wrote:
Actually i checked and rebuild the RHWAS php packages from upstream myself and it seems they can just go unmodified through the build process. I did not find any copyright,branding,whatever from upstream. Its just the vanilla php plus a few patches.
Thats pretty much what I have as well. And the rhaws stuff is being tracked with the same tools as the main distro.
So, how and when might these packages emerge (no I'm not switching distros :-D ) from testing?
Phil
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