Hi,
The CentOS Brand shown while CentOS 6 is booting up uses The CentOS Release Number on it. Could you please point out what is the typography used for the release number and, if possible, where it can be downloaded?
Best Regards, al.
2014-05-22 20:10 GMT+02:00 Alain Reguera Delgado alain.reguera@gmail.com:
Hi,
The CentOS Brand shown while CentOS 6 is booting up uses The CentOS Release Number on it. Could you please point out what is the typography used for the release number and, if possible, where it can be downloaded?
Best Regards, al.
Alain,
the font is "Denmark". You can get it here: http://fontzone.net/font-details/denmark-regular . Other download links are only one google-search away.
- Jitse
On 5/26/14, Jitse Klomp jitseklomp@gmail.com wrote: ...
the font is "Denmark". You can get it here: http://fontzone.net/font-details/denmark-regular . Other download links are only one google-search away.
Are you absolutely sure about it?
Denmark is the one used in the CentOS word and the CentOS message but it seems to me like it is not the one used in the CentOS release number shown in CentOS 6 bootup/shutdown time. Take a closer look again to Denmark and you'll see the difference (e.g., write the number 6 using denmark font and compare the result with the one shown in CentOS 6 bootup/shutdown). If the difference isn't obvious at that point let me know please to drop an image illustrating the issue (probably is just me).
Thanks, al.
On 05/27/2014 03:22 PM, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
On 5/26/14, Jitse Klomp jitseklomp@gmail.com wrote: ...
the font is "Denmark". You can get it here: http://fontzone.net/font-details/denmark-regular . Other download links are only one google-search away.
Are you absolutely sure about it?
Denmark is the one used in the CentOS word and the CentOS message but it seems to me like it is not the one used in the CentOS release number shown in CentOS 6 bootup/shutdown time. Take a closer look again to Denmark and you'll see the difference (e.g., write the number 6 using denmark font and compare the result with the one shown in CentOS 6 bootup/shutdown). If the difference isn't obvious at that point let me know please to drop an image illustrating the issue (probably is just me).
Thanks, al. _______________________________________________ CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
You're absolutely right, I just assumed it was the same font ;) I don't know what font the number is. I tried WhatTheFont but it isn't very helpful (hope the link works): http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/results?ch%5B0%5D=6&wtfserver=wtf_e_4...
- Jitse
On 05/27/2014 10:15 PM, Jitse Klomp wrote: <snip>
You're absolutely right, I just assumed it was the same font ;) I don't know what font the number is. I tried WhatTheFont but it isn't very helpful (hope the link works): http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/results?ch%5B0%5D=6&wtfserver=wtf_e_4...
- Jitse
The font used for the C5 release number is Denmark, though. So if you're working on artwork for C7 I suggest you just use Denmark, the 7 is quite nice :)
- Jitse
On 5/27/14, Jitse Klomp jitseklomp@gmail.com wrote: ...
The font used for the C5 release number is Denmark, though. So if you're working on artwork for C7 I suggest you just use Denmark, the 7 is quite nice :)
Well, this seems to be not an ordinary decision for anyone to take. The typography used in The CentOS Brand (release number included) affects The CentOS Project visual identity and I guess only The CentOS Project leaders can take a definitive decisions to this respect.
Consider someone working on public design models that anyone can use to massively help The CentOS Project in the process of branding images with customized artistic motifs. Some of the images produced this way (e.g., installation media) require the CentOS release number in them. It would be a wrong direction to use one typography in public design models and other different in prominent parts of The CentOS Project (e.g,. it contradicts the idea of visual consistency we are trying to achieve).
So we, as community, need to coordinate what typography we are going to use in further releases of CentOS so as to strictly preserve the visual consistency of the final images the community can produce. And, to grant this, it is absolutely necessary to make public the typography we use in all cases.
Thank you, al.
Let's not worry about the number itself. I would suggest we drop the number, and tnstead lets focus on the 'CentOS' so that the artwork is reusable and can be adapted as needed. Would that work for you?
On 05/28/2014 09:34 AM, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
On 5/27/14, Jitse Klomp jitseklomp@gmail.com wrote: ...
The font used for the C5 release number is Denmark, though. So if you're working on artwork for C7 I suggest you just use Denmark, the 7 is quite nice :)
Well, this seems to be not an ordinary decision for anyone to take. The typography used in The CentOS Brand (release number included) affects The CentOS Project visual identity and I guess only The CentOS Project leaders can take a definitive decisions to this respect.
Consider someone working on public design models that anyone can use to massively help The CentOS Project in the process of branding images with customized artistic motifs. Some of the images produced this way (e.g., installation media) require the CentOS release number in them. It would be a wrong direction to use one typography in public design models and other different in prominent parts of The CentOS Project (e.g,. it contradicts the idea of visual consistency we are trying to achieve).
So we, as community, need to coordinate what typography we are going to use in further releases of CentOS so as to strictly preserve the visual consistency of the final images the community can produce. And, to grant this, it is absolutely necessary to make public the typography we use in all cases.
Thank you, al. _______________________________________________ CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
2014-05-28 16:50 GMT+02:00 Jim Perrin jperrin@centos.org:
Let's not worry about the number itself. I would suggest we drop the number, and tnstead lets focus on the 'CentOS' so that the artwork is reusable and can be adapted as needed. Would that work for you?
Yes. I am also for just using "CentOS" in there and drop the number. (So this discussion doesn't come up again once 8 gets released ...)
:)
Cheers,
Ralph
2014-05-28 17:01 GMT+02:00 Ralph Angenendt ralph.angenendt@gmail.com:
2014-05-28 16:50 GMT+02:00 Jim Perrin jperrin@centos.org:
Let's not worry about the number itself. I would suggest we drop the number, and tnstead lets focus on the 'CentOS' so that the artwork is reusable and can be adapted as needed. Would that work for you?
Yes. I am also for just using "CentOS" in there and drop the number. (So this discussion doesn't come up again once 8 gets released ...)
On the other hand, if people think we absolutely *must*: The font is called Vegur and I have absolutely no idea regarding licenses.
Ralph
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On 05/28/2014 07:34 AM, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
So we, as community, need to coordinate what typography we are going to use in further releases of CentOS so as to strictly preserve the visual consistency of the final images the community can produce. And, to grant this, it is absolutely necessary to make public the typography we use in all cases.
+1
Having freedom built in to all artwork, documentation, code, and so forth is a key to being a healthy open source project. Sometimes it takes a while for people to understand that e.g. a photo used and manipulated for project artwork has to come with a good-enough license (e.g. CC SA) so that other designers can work with it; same for programs and file formats used to create artwork, we want other people to be able to open Inkscape or GIMP and share in the work and benefits.
- - Karsten - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade .^\ CentOS Doer of Stuff http://TheOpenSourceWay.org \ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:34:53AM -0400, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
So we, as community, need to coordinate what typography we are going to use in further releases of CentOS so as to strictly preserve the visual consistency of the final images the community can produce. And, to grant this, it is absolutely necessary to make public the typography we use in all cases.
Not to suggest that you have to do everything The Fedora Way :), but you might want to take a look at what the Fedora Design Team put together here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines. I've found it very useful over the years.
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On 05/28/2014 09:06 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:34:53AM -0400, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
So we, as community, need to coordinate what typography we are going to use in further releases of CentOS so as to strictly preserve the visual consistency of the final images the community can produce. And, to grant this, it is absolutely necessary to make public the typography we use in all cases.
Not to suggest that you have to do everything The Fedora Way :), but you might want to take a look at what the Fedora Design Team put together here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines. I've found it very useful over the years.
FWIW, I've got it on the shorter-side of my todo list to work on logo usage guidelines and trademark items in general with the community, but it's likely to have to wait until after I'm back from honey-vacation-moon on 7 July - I want to keep cycles open right now to assist with the overall CentOS 7 efforts. Definitely have the Fedora guidelines in my sight as a great place to work from - those have been written, tested, beaten upon, and improved greatly over the years.
- - Karsten - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade .^\ CentOS Doer of Stuff http://TheOpenSourceWay.org \ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41
On 05/28/2014 11:06 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
Not to suggest that you have to do everything The Fedora Way :), but you might want to take a look at what the Fedora Design Team put together here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines. I've found it very useful over the years.
Something tells me you may not have the most impartial of views on this :-P
I've actually been looking at doing something similar to fix up some confusion (and resolve a bug) over the licensing of one of our packages.
On 28/05/14 16:50, Jim Perrin wrote:
Let's not worry about the number itself. I would suggest we drop the number, and tnstead lets focus on the 'CentOS' so that the artwork is reusable and can be adapted as needed. Would that work for you?
The Fedora site is a good example of what you should do.
Your 'brand' should have proper guidelines so everyone sings from the same hymn sheet.
All the fonts should be known and freely available, though regardless of that it is probably best to have the design completely vectorised with any fonts used converted to 'lines' or 'outlines' so there are no problems in reproduction.
Last thing you want is people making it up themselves as they go.
Sorry - I get a bit anal about this as we work in the promotional merchandise industry and it is a continual nightmare with people not having their branding sorted properly :-)
B. Rgds John Crisp
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From: "Jitse Klomp" jitseklomp@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CentOS-devel] The CentOS Release Number Typography
I don't know what font the number is. I tried WhatTheFont but it isn't very helpful (hope the link works):
The font used for the C5 release number is Denmark, though. So if you're working on artwork for C7 I suggest you just use Denmark, the 7 is quite nice :)
Hey folks :-)
Looking at the RHEL 7 release candidate which has the new Anaconda, some things have changed, and I was thinking whether it would make sense to simply use the basic "CentOS" visual style for the installer, without any specific version numbering: (mockup image made with Gimp)
http://koti.kapsi.fi/~tigert/ideas/centos7-anaconda-mockup.png
As you can see, the version number is there just as text.
As for the "Version 7" thing, it might be nice to promote that more on the installed OS itself, as that's what users will be seeing.
I also came up with this kind of idea for the wallpaper:
http://koti.kapsi.fi/~tigert/ideas/centos7-wallpaper-800.jpeg
Now, adding the rather bold and strong logo on this image would not match the style that well - so what if we allowed ourselves a bit of creative freedom on wallpapers? :-)
If you want to test a fullsize wallpaper, see this:
http://koti.kapsi.fi/~tigert/ideas/centos7-wallpaper.jpeg
Greets, Tuomas - the guy who likes to play with pixels and colors..
On 05/28/2014 12:13 PM, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote:
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From: "Jitse Klomp" jitseklomp@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CentOS-devel] The CentOS Release Number Typography
I don't know what font the number is. I tried WhatTheFont but it isn't very helpful (hope the link works):
The font used for the C5 release number is Denmark, though. So if you're working on artwork for C7 I suggest you just use Denmark, the 7 is quite nice :)
Hey folks :-)
Looking at the RHEL 7 release candidate which has the new Anaconda, some things have changed, and I was thinking whether it would make sense to simply use the basic "CentOS" visual style for the installer, without any specific version numbering: (mockup image made with Gimp)
http://koti.kapsi.fi/~tigert/ideas/centos7-anaconda-mockup.png
That looks good.
As you can see, the version number is there just as text.
As for the "Version 7" thing, it might be nice to promote that more on the installed OS itself, as that's what users will be seeing.
I also came up with this kind of idea for the wallpaper:
http://koti.kapsi.fi/~tigert/ideas/centos7-wallpaper-800.jpeg
<personal preference> I really like the concept, but I'm a fan of darker backgrounds</personal preference>
Now, adding the rather bold and strong logo on this image would not match the style that well - so what if we allowed ourselves a bit of creative freedom on wallpapers? :-)
If you want to test a fullsize wallpaper, see this:
http://koti.kapsi.fi/~tigert/ideas/centos7-wallpaper.jpeg
Greets, Tuomas - the guy who likes to play with pixels and colors..
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
On 05/28/2014 06:26 PM, Jim Perrin wrote:
http://koti.kapsi.fi/~tigert/ideas/centos7-wallpaper-800.jpeg
<personal preference> I really like the concept, but I'm a fan of darker backgrounds</personal preference>
+1 from me as well, I like really dark backgrounds :)
On 5/28/14, Jim Perrin jperrin@centos.org wrote:
Let's not worry about the number itself. I would suggest we drop the number, and tnstead lets focus on the 'CentOS' so that the artwork is reusable and can be adapted as needed. Would that work for you?
Reusing artworks (specially brands) is one of my goals and work directions in CentOS Artwork SIG. In that sake, removing the release number from The CentOS Brand would be a good idea but, in some cases, it is not always an viable option (e.g., consider release-specific artworks like the installation media). If we remove the release number from such artworks, only the artistic motif would remain in them as visual identifier to infer what release number the artwork (and more importantly the software it represents to) pertains to. Using the release number is a matter of adding more information and reducing, this way, any sort of confusion about what release of CentOS one is really using.
I think that dropping the release number from prominent areas wouldn't help people to know better what major release of CentOS distribution they are using in their computers. This is true for other areas as well (e.g., documentation). However, I agree; it introduces a work load every time a new release is out and that isn't very good.
This way, the CentOS Artwork SIG is addressing this issue by writing a tool for automating the image rendition process, so it is possible for the community to produce all release-specific images with a single command. I wouldn't like to limit this tool so the community can use release number in the images if they need to, at some point. And, to do so, the typography information The CentOS Project wants to use for it is always necessary.
-- al.
On 5/28/14, Ralph Angenendt ralph.angenendt@gmail.com wrote: ...
On the other hand, if people think we absolutely *must*: The font is called Vegur and I have absolutely no idea regarding licenses.
Thank you Ralph,
I'll use the one in http://www.fontspace.com/arro/vegur if there is no objection.
--al.
On Thu, 29 May 2014, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
On 5/28/14, Ralph Angenendt ralph.angenendt@gmail.com wrote: ...
On the other hand, if people think we absolutely *must*: The font is called Vegur and I have absolutely no idea regarding licenses.
The license seems to be CC http://dotcolon.net/font/vegur/
I'll use the one in http://www.fontspace.com/arro/vegur if there is no objection.
the only possible objection might be that it is already in use by another prominent project, and so there is some 'visual namespace' collision http://luxate.blogspot.com/2010/10/fontastic-how-libreoffice-got-its-font.ht...
-- Russ herrold
Hello Alain and others by the way!
I have not been very active on the list before, so I figured I'd say hi. :-)
I'm a designer based in Finland, and have been helping with design needs here and there a bit (the new website, conference materials and booth signs etc) when kb and others have had a need.
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From: "Alain Reguera Delgado" alain.reguera@gmail.com To: "The CentOS developers mailing list." centos-devel@centos.org Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 5:05:13 PM Subject: Re: [CentOS-devel] The CentOS Release Number Typography
I think that dropping the release number from prominent areas wouldn't help people to know better what major release of CentOS distribution they are using in their computers. This is true for other areas as well (e.g., documentation). However, I agree; it introduces a work load every time a new release is out and that isn't very good.
Yeah. The newest installer seems to have the version number displayed as text in the actual installer UI, which still shows the version number but it is not part of the actual graphics. This of course makes it easy to, say, create a minor version update without having to touch the graphics at all, if design resources were limited.
//Tuomas
On 5/29/14, R P Herrold herrold@owlriver.com wrote:
On Thu, 29 May 2014, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
...
The license seems to be CC http://dotcolon.net/font/vegur/
The one in http://www.fontspace.com/arro/vegur seems to be in the Public Domain. I'll try to contact Vegur designer so as to clarify this issue.
the only possible objection might be that it is already in use by another prominent project, and so there is some 'visual namespace' collision http://luxate.blogspot.com/2010/10/fontastic-how-libreoffice-got-its-font.ht...
Should we contact the LibreOffice leaders as well to verify whether they are ok with us using Vegur in CentOS release numbers? Note that, this is a preventing action. The CentOS release number has not to be present on all images all the time but in some necessary cases only.
--al.
On 5/30/14, Tuomas Kuosmanen tigert@redhat.com wrote:
Hello Alain and others by the way!
I have not been very active on the list before, so I figured I'd say hi. :-)
I'm a designer based in Finland, and have been helping with design needs here and there a bit (the new website, conference materials and booth signs etc) when kb and others have had a need.
Hi Tuomas,
Thank you very much for your contributions. It would be fascinating if we could join forces in the CentOS artworks, coordinating directions, and distributing the work to get better results. I'm not a school-graduated artist but I feel an enthusiast of both programing and graphic design. I enjoy studying the work of others, and making contributions based on what I learn from them.
Yeah. The newest installer seems to have the version number displayed as text in the actual installer UI, which still shows the version number but it is not part of the actual graphics. This of course makes it easy to, say, create a minor version update without having to touch the graphics at all, if design resources were limited.
I haven't seen the new installer in action yet but, based on this, I am feeling quite happy with it :). Having the release number as text in the installer might reduce the need of having the release number inside the CentOS distribution artwork, too. For example, I guess it would be possible to create a strong visual connection between the CentOS release number (text), the CentOS logo (image), and the artistic motif (image) somehow in the installer so as to achieve low maintenance and still a consistent visual connection among these components.
To avoid confusions, each major release of CentOS must use a unique artistic motif.
--al.
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From: "Alain Reguera Delgado" alain.reguera@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CentOS-devel] The CentOS Release Number Typography
Hi Tuomas,
Thank you very much for your contributions. It would be fascinating if we could join forces in the CentOS artworks, coordinating directions, and distributing the work to get better results. I'm not a school-graduated artist but I feel an enthusiast of both programing and graphic design. I enjoy studying the work of others, and making contributions based on what I learn from them.
That is a decent plan of gaining experience and useful skills :)
I'm happy to be of help.
I haven't seen the new installer in action yet but, based on this, I am feeling quite happy with it :). Having the release number as text in the installer might reduce the need of having the release number inside the CentOS distribution artwork, too. For example, I guess it would be possible to create a strong visual connection between the CentOS release number (text), the CentOS logo (image), and the artistic motif (image) somehow in the installer so as to achieve low maintenance and still a consistent visual connection among these components.
To avoid confusions, each major release of CentOS must use a unique artistic motif.
Confusion where? To make it easy to identify the CentOS version running on a particular computer?
//T
Hi Guys
On 05/22/2014 07:10 PM, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
The CentOS Brand shown while CentOS 6 is booting up uses The CentOS Release Number on it. Could you please point out what is the typography used for the release number and, if possible, where it can be downloaded?
How close are we to getting a releaseable first-cut of the centos-artwork srpm ?
Jim has bravely offered to co-ordinate that, can we all just make sure he's aware of whatever work is being done in whatever part of the whole artwork spectrum ?
- KB
On 6/5/14, Tuomas Kuosmanen tigert@redhat.com wrote:
Confusion where?
Well, from a monolithic point of view. It might be confusing to have one artistic motif in the installer, another in the desktop-background, and other different in the web pages for the same major release. In this case the artistic motif is a visual component that helps to strengthen the visual connection between CentOS visual manifestations and the release they refer to.
To make it easy to identify the CentOS version running on a particular computer?
Yes. Although it is not limited to one particular computer, but the entire project visual structure. I think it would be good for CentOS project recognition to use the same artistic motif in all visual manifestations it is made of (e.g., installer, desktop-backgrounds, indexhtml, web pages, posters, stands, cards, everywhere). So, their visual relation can be retained as we interact with them. In that sake, each major release should have one unique visual style (artistic motif), so no visual confusion can exist between major releases.
There seems to be a proportional relation between the number of visual components we use to connect visual manifestations and the recognition strength they provide (e.g., if we use more visual components to connect visual manifestations, we achieve more recognition in them).
--al.
On 6/5/14, Karanbir Singh mail-lists@karan.org wrote:
How close are we to getting a releaseable first-cut of the centos-artwork srpm ?
I've build the following a few weeks ago:
http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Themes/Models/Distribution/7?action=AttachFil...
based on:
http://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhel/beta/7/source/SRPMS/redhat-logos-69.1.9-1....
and using:
http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Themes/Motifs/CentOS7/Sketch1
Should I rename the packge name from "redhat-logo...centos.src.rpm" to "centos-logo...src.rpm"?
Jim has bravely offered to co-ordinate that, can we all just make sure he's aware of whatever work is being done in whatever part of the whole artwork spectrum ?
Jim, could you revise the work and point out issues to fix, so we can get something acceptable from it?
Cheers, --al.
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On 06/05/2014 10:20 AM, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
On 6/5/14, Tuomas Kuosmanen tigert@redhat.com wrote:
Confusion where?
Well, from a monolithic point of view. It might be confusing to have one artistic motif in the installer, another in the desktop-background, and other different in the web pages for the same major release. In this case the artistic motif is a visual component that helps to strengthen the visual connection between CentOS visual manifestations and the release they refer to.
To make it easy to identify the CentOS version running on a particular computer?
Yes. Although it is not limited to one particular computer, but the entire project visual structure. I think it would be good for CentOS project recognition to use the same artistic motif in all visual manifestations it is made of (e.g., installer, desktop-backgrounds, indexhtml, web pages, posters, stands, cards, everywhere). So, their visual relation can be retained as we interact with them. In that sake, each major release should have one unique visual style (artistic motif), so no visual confusion can exist between major releases.
There seems to be a proportional relation between the number of visual components we use to connect visual manifestations and the recognition strength they provide (e.g., if we use more visual components to connect visual manifestations, we achieve more recognition in them).
My only input here is that I *love* the idea of a unified experience for users, across the entire Project's interfaces, and then uniquely identifiable within a specific major release.
For example, documentation for CentOS 6 would appear visually different from that of C5 and C7. Yet all tie back to an overall aesthetic.
By contrast, in Fedora the release name has been used by the Design Team to trigger a visual look - e.g. the Goddard release had a rocket theme for desktop background, while the Beefy Miracle release had an entire experience that included visuals, content (terribly punny jokes about "relishing this release", etc. referring back to the hot dog theme), release collateral[1], and so forth. There is an overall project aesthetic, but each release comes so fast that the per-release themes are not tied to each other.
Since CentOS has a major release on a much longer schedule, we can (eventually) put more time in to creating a unified experience.
- - Karsten - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade .^\ CentOS Doer of Stuff http://TheOpenSourceWay.org \ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41
On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 01:37:25PM -0700, Karsten Wade wrote:
By contrast, in Fedora the release name has been used by the Design Team to trigger a visual look - e.g. the Goddard release had a rocket theme for desktop background, while the Beefy Miracle release had an entire experience that included visuals, content (terribly punny jokes about "relishing this release", etc. referring back to the hot dog theme), release collateral[1], and so forth. There is an overall project aesthetic, but each release comes so fast that the per-release themes are not tied to each other.
This is a pretty much a gigantic tangent to CentOS design, but...
I expect that this will change now that we've ditched release names, and because we're working on presenting separate Cloud, Workstation, and Server varients with individual identity. I think we'll probably work more on a consistent Fedora design to tie everything together, while each "product" grows a unique identity underneath that.
On 06/05/2014 11:09 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
I expect that this will change now that we've ditched release names,
+1
I hate release names, they serve no purpose.
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On 06/05/2014 03:23 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 06/05/2014 11:09 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
I expect that this will change now that we've ditched release names,
+1
I hate release names, they serve no purpose.
I think of release names as similar to DNS. Not all of us can memorize IP addresses. A release name is friendlier to other humans. :)
- - Karsten - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade .^\ CentOS Doer of Stuff http://TheOpenSourceWay.org \ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41
On 2014-06-06, Karsten Wade kwade@redhat.com wrote:
I think of release names as similar to DNS. Not all of us can memorize IP addresses. A release name is friendlier to other humans. :)
The difficulty I have with release names is that, unlike IP addresses, releases are ordered. I know that CentOS 6 came after CentOS 5. If software says "requires CentOS Churro or higher", is CentOS Donut sufficient?
--keith
On 06/06/2014 04:47 AM, Keith Keller wrote:
On 2014-06-06, Karsten Wade kwade@redhat.com wrote:
I think of release names as similar to DNS. Not all of us can memorize IP addresses. A release name is friendlier to other humans. :)
The difficulty I have with release names is that, unlike IP addresses, releases are ordered. I know that CentOS 6 came after CentOS 5. If software says "requires CentOS Churro or higher", is CentOS Donut sufficient?
and unlike DNS, we dont have 4 Billion to consider ( and thats v4 ) and typicall shorter to type + machine processable.
- KB
On 06/05/2014 12:52 PM, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
On 6/5/14, Karanbir Singh mail-lists@karan.org wrote:
How close are we to getting a releaseable first-cut of the centos-artwork srpm ?
I've build the following a few weeks ago:
http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Themes/Models/Distribution/7?action=AttachFil...
Thanks. I'll start taking a look at this one. Out of curiosity, would you be able to use git.centos.org rather than putting these in the wiki? If you need your account credentials, I'll send you some temp ones off-list.
based on:
http://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhel/beta/7/source/SRPMS/redhat-logos-69.1.9-1....
and using:
http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Themes/Motifs/CentOS7/Sketch1
Should I rename the packge name from "redhat-logo...centos.src.rpm" to "centos-logo...src.rpm"?
Yes.
Jim has bravely offered to co-ordinate that, can we all just make sure he's aware of whatever work is being done in whatever part of the whole artwork spectrum ?
Jim, could you revise the work and point out issues to fix, so we can get something acceptable from it?
Yes. I was traveling yesterday so I'm hitting this pretty much first thing this morning. I'll be putting together a wiki page with the various logos, fonts, and licenses etc to help folks keep things straight, and to ensure that we're using the right ones.
On 6/6/14, Jim Perrin jperrin@centos.org wrote:
Out of curiosity, would you be able to use git.centos.org rather than putting these in the wiki?
I am terribly sorry for this Jim. The current link I have access to has limitations and I cannot push from here at present time.
If you need your account credentials, I'll send you some temp ones off-list.
Thank you Jim. I'll keep this in mind.
Yes. I was traveling yesterday so I'm hitting this pretty much first thing this morning. I'll be putting together a wiki page with the various logos, fonts, and licenses etc to help folks keep things straight, and to ensure that we're using the right ones.
Excellent :)
Thanks, --al.
On 06/05/2014 12:52 PM, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
On 6/5/14, Karanbir Singh mail-lists@karan.org wrote:
How close are we to getting a releaseable first-cut of the centos-artwork srpm ?
I've build the following a few weeks ago:
http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Themes/Models/Distribution/7?action=AttachFil...
based on:
http://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhel/beta/7/source/SRPMS/redhat-logos-69.1.9-1....
and using:
http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Themes/Motifs/CentOS7/Sketch1
Should I rename the packge name from "redhat-logo...centos.src.rpm" to "centos-logo...src.rpm"?
Jim has bravely offered to co-ordinate that, can we all just make sure he's aware of whatever work is being done in whatever part of the whole artwork spectrum ?
Jim, could you revise the work and point out issues to fix, so we can get something acceptable from it?
This is actually a very good start. Johnny had also taken the images you put up on the wiki to build the rc1 centos-logos package. His is *slightly* improved over yours as it includes the rnotes anaconda images, and I believe Tuomas had done something similar. I'll try to do a rough merge of the packages/patches and put it up on git.centos.org later today.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alain Reguera Delgado" alain.reguera@gmail.com
Well, from a monolithic point of view. It might be confusing to have one artistic motif in the installer, another in the desktop-background, and other different in the web pages for the same major release. In this case the artistic motif is a visual component that helps to strengthen the visual connection between CentOS visual manifestations and the release they refer to.
Speaking of artistic motifs, where does the current ornament pattern in wallpapers originate from?
Is there a vector or bitmap version available without the shading?
//Tuomas
On 6/9/14, Tuomas Kuosmanen tigert@redhat.com wrote:
Speaking of artistic motifs, where does the current ornament pattern in wallpapers originate from?
I design them at home using Inkscape and GIMPmotivated on the seven.centos.org artwork and Karan's words about the 10 years of CentOS.
Is there a vector or bitmap version available without the shading?
Yes.
http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Themes/Motifs/CentOS7/Sketch1?action=AttachFi...
http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Themes/Motifs/CentOS7/Sketch1?action=AttachFi...