I checked the web forum in case there was something new there, and there doesn't appear to be. It's been a couple of weeks without news. Thanks.
On 4 April 2011 13:40, Matthew Miller mattdm@mattdm.org wrote:
I checked the web forum in case there was something new there, and there doesn't appear to be. It's been a couple of weeks without news. Thanks.
Matthew,
Please tell me that I am not in a time warp or falling into a black hole.
How does my last posting [1] (dated 2011/3/31) fit into your assertion of "a couple of weeks without news"?
Regards, Alan.
[1] https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=29685&forum=...
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 01:48:50PM +0100, Alan Bartlett wrote:
I checked the web forum in case there was something new there, and there doesn't appear to be. It's been a couple of weeks without news. Thanks.
Please tell me that I am not in a time warp or falling into a black hole.
I'm sorry, I didn't see that one. The formatting on the forum is a bit confusing to me, as the "Posted on" dates for the _previous_ posts are in the same white block as the titles for the next one.
How does my last posting [1] (dated 2011/3/31) fit into your assertion of "a couple of weeks without news"?
Well, it certainly has been a couple of weeks without news here on the CentOS developers' mailing list. It would be really helpful if you could make short updates here as well.
I also don't see anything new on CentOS 6.
Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 01:48:50PM +0100, Alan Bartlett wrote:
How does my last posting [1] (dated 2011/3/31) fit into your assertion of "a couple of weeks without news"?
[...] It would be really helpful if you could make short updates here as well.
+1
regards Olaf
On 4 April 2011 14:05, Olaf Mueller daily-planet@istari.de wrote:
Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 01:48:50PM +0100, Alan Bartlett wrote:
How does my last posting [1] (dated 2011/3/31) fit into your assertion of "a couple of weeks without news"?
[...] It would be really helpful if you could make short updates here as well.
+1
O.k. folks.
Please note that this m/l is for discussions regarding the development of products released by the CentOS Project or the development of the CentOS Project itself. It is not designed as a means of "talking" to CentOS developers about "this", "that" or "the other". The main mailing list [2] is the correct location for such I/O. Announcements are made on the CentOS-Announce [3] mailing list.
That said, I will reproduce the quotation just posted to the forum thread relating to the CentOS 5.6 release status [4,1]:
[quote] 5.6 is going out to the external mirrors at the moment, I am going to have torrents ready for later today and then maybe release announcement sometime tomorrow. [/quote]
Regards, Alan.
[2] http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos [3] http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce [4] https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=29685&start=...
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:35:19PM +0100, Alan Bartlett wrote:
Please note that this m/l is for discussions regarding the development of products released by the CentOS Project or the development of the CentOS Project itself. It is not designed as a means of "talking" to CentOS developers about "this", "that" or "the other".
I'm confused by this message. Are you suggesting that CentOS 5.6 and CentOS 6 are not products of the CentOS project?
On 4 April 2011 14:57, Matthew Miller mattdm@mattdm.org wrote:
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:35:19PM +0100, Alan Bartlett wrote:
Please note that this m/l is for discussions regarding the development of products released by the CentOS Project or the development of the CentOS Project itself. It is not designed as a means of "talking" to CentOS developers about "this", "that" or "the other".
I'm confused by this message. Are you suggesting that CentOS 5.6 and CentOS 6 are not products of the CentOS project?
Sorry Matthew,
In a general attempt to clarify the purpose of this mailing list, I have then caused your confusion. Please regard my clarification as to the list readers as a whole and not to yourself nor you query, specifically. ;-)
Alan.
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 03:03:35PM +0100, Alan Bartlett wrote:
In a general attempt to clarify the purpose of this mailing list, I have then caused your confusion. Please regard my clarification as to the list readers as a whole and not to yourself nor you query, specifically. ;-)
Okay, whew. I agree that the list could certainly _use_ that clarification recently.
On 4 April 2011 15:06, Matthew Miller mattdm@mattdm.org wrote:
Okay, whew. I agree that the list could certainly _use_ that clarification recently.
ACK.
Alan.
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Alan Bartlett ajb@elrepo.org wrote:
On 4 April 2011 13:40, Matthew Miller mattdm@mattdm.org wrote:
I checked the web forum in case there was something new there, and there doesn't appear to be. It's been a couple of weeks without news. Thanks.
Matthew,
Please tell me that I am not in a time warp or falling into a black hole.
How does my last posting [1] (dated 2011/3/31) fit into your assertion of "a couple of weeks without news"?
Regards, Alan.
[1] https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=29685&forum=...
I'm completely flabbergasted that, given all of the arguing, you didn't think to post any of these status updates to the mailing lists? The MLs have been a powder keg for months and you never thought to mention these updates in any of those threads? Or realized that no one was reading the forum and additionally posted them to the MLs?
Doing such a simple thing would've seriously prevented a large amount of noise had this been posted to the MLs as a new message, under its own subject to each list (Main and Devel).
The whole point of everyone's complaining has simply been lack of information.
// Brian Mathis
On 04/04/11 18:27, Brian Mathis wrote:
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Alan Bartlettajb@elrepo.org wrote:
On 4 April 2011 13:40, Matthew Millermattdm@mattdm.org wrote:
I checked the web forum in case there was something new there, and there doesn't appear to be. It's been a couple of weeks without news. Thanks.
Matthew,
Please tell me that I am not in a time warp or falling into a black hole.
How does my last posting [1] (dated 2011/3/31) fit into your assertion of "a couple of weeks without news"?
Regards, Alan.
[1] https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=29685&forum=...
I'm completely flabbergasted that...
Brian,
No disrespect, but I'm equally flabbergasted that you have the nerve to criticise Alan who has reached out to the CentOS developers for information and relayed it to the part of the CentOS community for which he is responsible (i.e, the forums). Perhaps if someone from the MLs similarly stepped up and showed some initiative/leadership, or even just coordinated with Alan, then you might have a clue what goes on around here rather than waiting for something to magically appear in your inbox.
Hi,
On 04/04/2011 01:40 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
I checked the web forum in case there was something new there, and there doesn't appear to be. It's been a couple of weeks without news. Thanks.
External mirrors should start seeing the 5.6 tree about now, along with updates etc. I hope to have torrents up later today and perhaps release announcement from there. We have cleaned up the msync stuff quite a bit since 5.4 days, so hopefully we can repeat the 5.5 release process where we got external mirrors sync'd in under 24 hrs.
On the other hand, we have had over 200 new mirrors since 5.5 release! So lets see how that pans out.
re: 6, I'm still saying 2 - 3 weeks from 5.6 Announcement. In more tangible terms : short of 60 pkgs, 6.0 is all done. But keep in mind this is the distro 'tree', much fun to be had after that with anaconda, mirror setups, yum policies etc. ( so if anyone has kickstarts, test scripts : specially for acceptance and integration; do share ).
- KB
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:29:06PM +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:
External mirrors should start seeing the 5.6 tree about now, along with updates etc. I hope to have torrents up later today and perhaps release announcement from there. We have cleaned up the msync stuff quite a bit since 5.4 days, so hopefully we can repeat the 5.5 release process where we got external mirrors sync'd in under 24 hrs. On the other hand, we have had over 200 new mirrors since 5.5 release! So lets see how that pans out.
Thanks. I'll be looking for it.
re: 6, I'm still saying 2 - 3 weeks from 5.6 Announcement. In more tangible terms : short of 60 pkgs, 6.0 is all done. But keep in mind this is the distro 'tree', much fun to be had after that with anaconda, mirror setups, yum policies etc. ( so if anyone has kickstarts, test scripts : specially for acceptance and integration; do share ).
Are plans in place for 6.1?
B.S. Have no relation (alas) to the CentOS team, except that I am proud CentOS user as well as probably you xD
Are plans in place for 6.1?
Most probably, it's not even considered now, taking 6.0 release pending into account. After 6.0 is ready (and it will take the great CentOS team a bit of time) they maybe will attend to the 6.1 challenge along with the updates for 5 series, 5.6 and 6.0.
IMO (and just IMO), it was bad idea to process both 5.6 and 6.0 at the same time. It got worse on the release time, and got terrible delay. Doing two independent things at once is really bad thing therefore.
On 04/04/2011 02:52 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
re: 6, I'm still saying 2 - 3 weeks from 5.6 Announcement. In more tangible terms : short of 60 pkgs, 6.0 is all done. But keep in mind this is the distro 'tree', much fun to be had after that with anaconda, mirror setups, yum policies etc. ( so if anyone has kickstarts, test scripts : specially for acceptance and integration; do share ).
Are plans in place for 6.1?
Yes and No
CentOS-6 is going to be the first distro we build and release with end to end automation. However, there are a few critical issues that we need to solve fairly soon. How well we can do 6.1 will depend on those issues.
By the end of this week, I'll get these things written up and posted to the list. Lets try, once again, and see if there can be some constructive conversations.
- KB
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 03:18:42PM +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:
CentOS-6 is going to be the first distro we build and release with end to end automation. However, there are a few critical issues that we need to solve fairly soon. How well we can do 6.1 will depend on those issues.
By the end of this week, I'll get these things written up and posted to the list. Lets try, once again, and see if there can be some constructive conversations.
Awesome. Thanks again.
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