Hi All, Does anyone know what will happen with the GlusterFS packages after Stream 8 EOL ?I'm wondering if the build system will keep building them for RHEL 8 or they won't be built anymore ? Best Regards,Strahil Nikolov
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 2:56 AM Strahil Nikolov via CentOS-devel centos-devel@centos.org wrote:
Hi All,
Does anyone know what will happen with the GlusterFS packages after Stream 8 EOL ? I'm wondering if the build system will keep building them for RHEL 8 or they won't be built anymore ?
We haven't finalized what CentOS Stream 8 EOL looks like yet. It's something we hope to determine in the near future so that we can give the community advanced notice on what to expect.
RHEL 8 will continue to provide the GlusterFS packages either way.
josh
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 8:02 AM Josh Boyer jwboyer@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 2:56 AM Strahil Nikolov via CentOS-devel centos-devel@centos.org wrote:
Hi All,
Does anyone know what will happen with the GlusterFS packages after
Stream 8 EOL ?
I'm wondering if the build system will keep building them for RHEL 8 or
they won't be built anymore ?
We haven't finalized what CentOS Stream 8 EOL looks like yet. It's something we hope to determine in the near future so that we can give the community advanced notice on what to expect.
RHEL 8 will continue to provide the GlusterFS packages either way.
RHEL8 will provide the downstream packages, which are based on glusterfs-6. And even those aren't going to receive much in the way of updates going forward.
I suspect Strahil is using glusterfs-9 or glusterfs-10 (from the Storage SIG.)
Not sure. But, e.g., glusterfs-7.9 was never built on CentOS 6 after RHEL6/CentOS6 reached EOL. The buildroots get deleted I know, e.g. on Fedora. I tried to do a scratch build of gluster 7.8 on C6 and the task is stuck in 'waitrepo', so it looks like CBS has deleted its obsolete buildroots too.
RHEL8 and CentOS Stream 8 probably still have around five more years before they approach EOL. Who can say if the people who are building packages now will even still be around in five years. People change jobs, retire, etc.
The volunteers who do the builds don't have infinite resources (e.g. time). Would you be willing to commit to doing them? How about five years from now?
How many people are still using RHEL7 or CentOS 7 at this point? By the time CS8 reaches EOL how many people, realistically, will still be using it? And want new builds of glusterfs five years from now.
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 2:56 AM Strahil Nikolov via CentOS-devel < centos-devel@centos.org> wrote:
Hi All,
Does anyone know what will happen with the GlusterFS packages after Stream 8 EOL ? I'm wondering if the build system will keep building them for RHEL 8 or they won't be built anymore ?
Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov _______________________________________________ CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 8:05 AM Kaleb Keithley kkeithle@redhat.com wrote:
Not sure. But, e.g., glusterfs-7.9 was never built on CentOS 6 after RHEL6/CentOS6 reached EOL. The buildroots get deleted I know, e.g. on Fedora. I tried to do a scratch build of gluster 7.8 on C6 and the task is stuck in 'waitrepo', so it looks like CBS has deleted its obsolete buildroots too.
RHEL8 and CentOS Stream 8 probably still have around five more years before they approach EOL. Who can say if the people who are building packages now will even still be around in five years. People change jobs, retire, etc.
The CentOS Stream 8 EOL timeframe is the end of the full-support phase of RHEL 8. That is roughly 5 years from 8.0 GA, so approximately 2 years from now. This is documented on the project pages.
RHEL 8 has a maintenance phase that extends beyond that and will not be retired for quite some time.
The volunteers who do the builds don't have infinite resources (e.g. time). Would you be willing to commit to doing them? How about five years from now?
How many people are still using RHEL7 or CentOS 7 at this point? By the time CS8 reaches EOL how many people, realistically, will still be using it? And want new builds of glusterfs five years from now.
A significant portion of our user base is still on RHEL 7. The Enterprise industry does not migrate rapidly.
josh
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 2:56 AM Strahil Nikolov via CentOS-devel centos-devel@centos.org wrote:
Hi All,
Does anyone know what will happen with the GlusterFS packages after Stream 8 EOL ? I'm wondering if the build system will keep building them for RHEL 8 or they won't be built anymore ?
Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov _______________________________________________ CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
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Hi Strahil,
I currently maintain a GlusterFS 10.x rebuilt version for EL8 and EL9 with Fedora COPR :
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/ligenix/enterprise-gluster10/
Regards, Jean-Marc Liger
Le 20/07/2022 à 08:52, Strahil Nikolov via CentOS-devel a écrit :
Hi All,
Does anyone know what will happen with the GlusterFS packages after Stream 8 EOL ? I'm wondering if the build system will keep building them for RHEL 8 or they won't be built anymore ?
Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
Thanks for all who replied. I'm worried that after the CS8 EOL (2 years from now) the GlusterFS packages (anything newer than v9) will no longer be built or they will be built with older dependencies breaking compatibility on RHEL and derivatives. If there are no plans to keep building them (for example using RHEL 8 as a build platform) after that, it would be worth considering other options before the time comes.
I don't mind to dedicate some of my personal time (no,my employer doesn't use GlusterFS) to ensure the build process continue to work - but my experience is not much. Best Regards,Strahil Nikolov
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 17:26, Jean-Marc Ligerjean-marc.liger@parisdescartes.fr wrote: Hi Strahil,
I currently maintain a GlusterFS 10.x rebuilt version for EL8 and EL9 with Fedora COPR :
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/ligenix/enterprise-gluster10/
Regards, Jean-Marc Liger
Le 20/07/2022 à 08:52, Strahil Nikolov via CentOS-devel a écrit :
Hi All,
Does anyone know what will happen with the GlusterFS packages after Stream 8 EOL ? I'm wondering if the build system will keep building them for RHEL 8 or they won't be built anymore ?
Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov
CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel