Hi Guys,
Actually CentOS uses many free software applications to handle its needs. Those applications have their own design and when you see them as a whole they don't visually fit among them. Additionally, when you are in one application, for example the wiki, there isn't always a visible link referring other sections, like forums, bugs, docs, downloads, projects ...
Don't know if you are agree with the idea of a common and predictable design for the applications we use; so I've organized some ideas in the following wiki page for you to consider and improve:
http://wiki.centos.org/WebsiteVer2/WebEnvironment
As part of these ideas a redesing for mailman application was requiered:
http://wiki.centos.org/WebsiteVer2/WebEnvironment/Mailman
Others applications may be modified to ... but before that I would like to know what do you think about it. I would like to be focused on what CentOS really needs for its improvement.
Best Regards,
Hi Alain,
I am not particularly involved with the whole website ver2 process, but my views on the subject:
On 05/28/2009 04:51 PM, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
Actually CentOS uses many free software applications to handle its needs. Those applications have their own design and when you see them as a whole they don't visually fit among them. Additionally, when you are in one application, for example the wiki, there isn't always a visible link referring other sections, like forums, bugs, docs, downloads, projects ...
This is a crucial issue - and something that we should fix at some level, even the issue of single auth is something that we need to get plumbed in sooner than later.
Don't know if you are agree with the idea of a common and predictable design for the applications we use; so I've organized some ideas in the following wiki page for you to consider and improve:
It would be great if a uniform look and feel could be achieved across the board, however is it worth spending a bit of time and see if we are using the best apps right now and if we might be better of first fixing the apps or moving to things that would give us the best overall setup ?
Others applications may be modified to ... but before that I would like to know what do you think about it. I would like to be focused on what CentOS really needs for its improvement.
One thing we surely need is more people getting involved with this, and being able to pull on strings in parallel. eg. to move the website into anything else would mean various other portions like the forums, docs and other content might need a new home, and we cant really move one without the other.
- KB
Good Evening,
I am not particularly involved with the whole website ver2 process, but
my views on the subject:
On 05/28/2009 04:51 PM, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
Actually CentOS uses many free software applications to handle its needs. Those applications have their own design and when you see them as a whole they don't visually fit among them. Additionally, when you are in one application, for example the wiki, there isn't always a visible link referring other sections, like forums, bugs, docs, downloads, projects ...
This is a crucial issue - and something that we should fix at some level, even the issue of single auth is something that we need to get plumbed in sooner than later.
Don't know if you are agree with the idea of a common and predictable design for the applications we use; so I've organized some ideas in the following wiki page for you to consider and improve:
It would be great if a uniform look and feel could be achieved across the board, however is it worth spending a bit of time and see if we are using the best apps right now and if we might be better of first fixing the apps or moving to things that would give us the best overall setup ?
Others applications may be modified to ... but before that I would like to know what do you think about it. I would like to be focused on what CentOS really needs for its improvement.
One thing we surely need is more people getting involved with this, and being able to pull on strings in parallel. eg. to move the website into anything else would mean various other portions like the forums, docs and other content might need a new home, and we cant really move one without the other.
We are going to set up test environments for all of these components. LDAP backend is already available and usable. Forum migration is 80% done. Some other components (e.g. mailman) are already ported to the new look.
One major decision is if we can rely on a already existing CMS system or if it's bloated and we just need a simple backend to edit the news page. Also User Management has to been set up on custom code base, as there are no real good web based solutions that fulfill our needs.
Best Regards Marcus
On 05/29/2009 05:42 PM, Marcus Moeller wrote:
We are going to set up test environments for all of these components. LDAP backend is already available and usable. Forum migration is 80% done. Some other components (e.g. mailman) are already ported to the new look.
I think its worth syncing up with everyone first - you guys might be going down a route that isnt required. mailman etc we are unlikely to move away from, but pretty much everything else is worth a review.
Dear Karan.
We are going to set up test environments for all of these components. LDAP backend is already available and usable. Forum migration is 80% done. Some other components (e.g. mailman) are already ported to the new look.
I think its worth syncing up with everyone first - you guys might be going down a route that isnt required. mailman etc we are unlikely to move away from, but pretty much everything else is worth a review.
Don't be afraid. We are going to discuss every single step ;)
Best Regards Marcus
Marcus Moeller wrote:
We are going to set up test environments for all of these components. LDAP backend is already available and usable.
We have 35k forum users, 4.5k bugs.centos.org "users" and 3076(!) wiki users (most of them probably accounts registered by spammers). That's going to be fun :)
Forum migration is 80% done. Some other components (e.g. mailman) are already ported to the new look.
Well, at least we don't have to migrate the several thousand ML users to LDAP :)
One major decision is if we can rely on a already existing CMS system or if it's bloated and we just need a simple backend to edit the news page.
Yupp. This is something which needs to be decided rather soonish.
Also User Management has to been set up on custom code base, as there are no real good web based solutions that fulfill our needs.
That is another problem: Everything wants to have its own user database, I don't see any trend in OpenSource software to unify this.
Just pointing out things,
Ralph
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