Hi,
There are a couple of things mentioned during the release of 5.1 that would be nice if they could be integrated into 5.2. These are (in random order) :
- Update the content of the slides (and translate them)
I don't remember what exactly people would like to have changed or who it was that mentioned it. But anyway, the time is now if we would like the slides updated. So speak up :-)
- Add the updates repo (in the same list as the extra repo)
By default at the Updates repo to the Anaconda installer like it currently is for the Extras repo. So people that have a internet connection during install can have updated packages already installed.
- Provide a CentOS png to be displayed on the top of the cube (bug #2633)
When using compiz make sure there is a CentOS logo on the 3D cube when changing desktops.
So the question then is, do we like to do these and if so who is going to do them ? Volunteers speak up :-)
Regards, Tim
--- On Fri, 5/23/08, Tim Verhoeven tim.verhoeven.be@gmail.com wrote:
From: Tim Verhoeven tim.verhoeven.be@gmail.com Subject: [CentOS-devel] CentOS 5.2 todo list To: "The CentOS developers mailing list." centos-devel@centos.org Received: Friday, May 23, 2008, 7:54 AM Hi,
There are a couple of things mentioned during the release of 5.1 that would be nice if they could be integrated into 5.2. These are (in random order) :
- Update the content of the slides (and translate them)
I don't remember what exactly people would like to have changed or who it was that mentioned it. But anyway, the time is now if we would like the slides updated. So speak up :-)
there is a list for this kind of things (translations), so just use it :-) centos-es is ready for that ;-)
cu roger
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Tim Verhoeven wrote:
- Update the content of the slides (and translate them)
I don't remember what exactly people would like to have changed or who it was that mentioned it. But anyway, the time is now if we would like the slides updated. So speak up :-)
As last time, I don't really see any content in the slides which needs to be changed, as we've held those rather generic.
So the question then is, do we like to do these and if so who is going to do them ? Volunteers speak up :-)
Add {0,1,2}.centos.pool.ntp.org to the network time protocol configuration and to the standard ntp.conf file - this still reads {0,1,2}.rhel.pool.ntp.org at the moment, we have our own pool name since a few weeks ago.
A grep over my complete file system is running now, to see where this string is mentioned.
Cheers,
Ralph
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
As last time, I don't really see any content in the slides which needs to be changed, as we've held those rather generic.
I need the final images on the 28th if they are going to make it into anaconda this time.
Add {0,1,2}.centos.pool.ntp.org to the network time protocol configuration and to the standard ntp.conf file - this still reads {0,1,2}.rhel.pool.ntp.org at the moment, we have our own pool name since a few weeks ago.
ok, I can do that now.
- KB
Karanbir Singh wrote:
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
As last time, I don't really see any content in the slides which needs to be changed, as we've held those rather generic.
I need the final images on the 28th if they are going to make it into anaconda this time.
I'm just going through an install and really do not see any need for changes. And 28th is a tad, ermm, short, especially with the rate Gideon can be gotten a hold of ...
Add {0,1,2}.centos.pool.ntp.org to the network time protocol configuration and to the standard ntp.conf file - this still reads {0,1,2}.rhel.pool.ntp.org at the moment, we have our own pool name since a few weeks ago.
ok, I can do that now.
As far as I can see the only change needed is in ntp.conf from the ntp package.
If I understand it correctly, then /usr/share/system-config-date/dateBackend.py reads /etc/ntp.conf on startup and processes "server" lines in there to offer you a choice of ntp servers.
If we really want to make sure, we could also modify /usr/share/system-config-date/ntp.template - but that would be doing more than upstream does, as that only contains
server 0.pool.ntp.org
lines.
Cheers,
Ralph
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
Karanbir Singh wrote:
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
As last time, I don't really see any content in the slides which needs to be changed, as we've held those rather generic.
I need the final images on the 28th if they are going to make it into anaconda this time.
I'm just going through an install and really do not see any need for changes. And 28th is a tad, ermm, short, especially with the rate Gideon can be gotten a hold of ...
Add {0,1,2}.centos.pool.ntp.org to the network time protocol configuration and to the standard ntp.conf file - this still reads {0,1,2}.rhel.pool.ntp.org at the moment, we have our own pool name since a few weeks ago.
ok, I can do that now.
As far as I can see the only change needed is in ntp.conf from the ntp package.
If I understand it correctly, then /usr/share/system-config-date/dateBackend.py reads /etc/ntp.conf on startup and processes "server" lines in there to offer you a choice of ntp servers.
If we really want to make sure, we could also modify /usr/share/system-config-date/ntp.template - but that would be doing more than upstream does, as that only contains
server 0.pool.ntp.org
My dhcp server offers an ntp server; _that_ is the one I want used. It seems weird to me that it isn't.
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
My dhcp server offers an ntp server; _that_ is the one I want used. It seems weird to me that it isn't.
Nobody forbids you to use that. We are just changing the *default* stuff for the time configuration utility and the *default* config for ntpd.
I think what he means is that if the dhcp server supplies the option for ntp servers, they should be installed and used automatically more or less like dns servers are - unless you have set an option to override with a different setting.
Les Mikesell wrote:
Ralph Angenendt wrote: I think what he means is that if the dhcp server supplies the option for ntp servers, they should be installed and used automatically more or less like dns servers are - unless you have set an option to override with a different setting.
I wasn't talking about any functionality changes here.
Ralph
Les Mikesell wrote:
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
My dhcp server offers an ntp server; _that_ is the one I want used. It seems weird to me that it isn't.
Nobody forbids you to use that. We are just changing the *default* stuff for the time configuration utility and the *default* config for ntpd.
I think what he means is that if the dhcp server supplies the option for ntp servers, they should be installed and used automatically more or less like dns servers are - unless you have set an option to override with a different setting.
Exactly. At present, the offering is either ignored ... or I've made a goose of myself again.
I don't feel like doing a manual install right now to see what goes on, but I can't find a RH-ish system that isn't using the value offered by my dhcp server. Even on C4.
I do think one shouldn't be asked about timezone info by Anaconda if the DHCP server provides it, and I'm sure it still does, but that isn't what I had in mind.
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 9:33 AM, John Summerfield debian@herakles.homelinux.org wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
My dhcp server offers an ntp server; _that_ is the one I want used. It seems weird to me that it isn't.
Nobody forbids you to use that. We are just changing the *default* stuff for the time configuration utility and the *default* config for ntpd.
I think what he means is that if the dhcp server supplies the option for ntp servers, they should be installed and used automatically more or less like dns servers are - unless you have set an option to override with a different setting.
Exactly. At present, the offering is either ignored ... or I've made a goose of myself again.
It shouldn't be ignored out of the box.. my system got an updated ntp but I am not sure if I changed it later. I will have to do a reinstall to make sure... but it looks like its not ignoring.
I don't feel like doing a manual install right now to see what goes on, but I can't find a RH-ish system that isn't using the value offered by my dhcp server. Even on C4.
Thats weird. I need to check my boxes again.
I do think one shouldn't be asked about timezone info by Anaconda if the DHCP server provides it, and I'm sure it still does, but that isn't what I had in mind.
Thats a bit more of a change.. I think it would need to be an upstream change first.
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 4:54 AM, Tim Verhoeven tim.verhoeven.be@gmail.com wrote:
- Provide a CentOS png to be displayed on the top of the cube (bug #2633)
When using compiz make sure there is a CentOS logo on the 3D cube when changing desktops.
Just uploaded a centos logo image file that could be used to replace the fedora file (see http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2633 ) . The image is:
http://bugs.centos.org/file_download.php?file_id=487&type=bug
Akemi
Akemi Yagi wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 4:54 AM, Tim Verhoeven tim.verhoeven.be@gmail.com wrote:
- Provide a CentOS png to be displayed on the top of the cube (bug #2633)
When using compiz make sure there is a CentOS logo on the 3D cube when changing desktops.
Just uploaded a centos logo image file that could be used to replace the fedora file (see http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2633 ) . The image is:
http://bugs.centos.org/file_download.php?file_id=487&type=bug
Thanks,
I've just used the logo, and not the 'CentOS' bit, is that ok ?
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 3:30 AM, Karanbir Singh mail-lists@karan.org wrote:
Akemi Yagi wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 4:54 AM, Tim Verhoeven tim.verhoeven.be@gmail.com wrote:
- Provide a CentOS png to be displayed on the top of the cube (bug #2633)
When using compiz make sure there is a CentOS logo on the 3D cube when changing desktops.
Just uploaded a centos logo image file that could be used to replace the fedora file (see http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2633 ) . The image is:
http://bugs.centos.org/file_download.php?file_id=487&type=bug
Thanks,
I've just used the logo, and not the 'CentOS' bit, is that ok ?
Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219@icq
Surely. Thanks.
Akemi
On Fri, 23 May 2008, Tim Verhoeven wrote:
There are a couple of things mentioned during the release of 5.1 that would be nice if they could be integrated into 5.2. These are (in random order) :
- Update the content of the slides (and translate them)
I don't remember what exactly people would like to have changed or who it was that mentioned it. But anyway, the time is now if we would like the slides updated. So speak up :-)
I did. The slides would be the perfect opportunity to promote some things.
- Explain what CentOS is and how we relate to upstream - Explain all the additional stuff the CentOS project is doing - Explain that we have SIGs and how they can join them - Explain where to get documentation - Explain how people can help CentOS (contribute, pay C, buy RH) - Explain what Enterprise Linux means and show the release cycle - ...
Can we have a look at the current CentOS slides and see what we could improve ?
- Add the updates repo (in the same list as the extra repo)
By default at the Updates repo to the Anaconda installer like it currently is for the Extras repo. So people that have a internet connection during install can have updated packages already installed.
When doing this on CentOS 5.1 in a kickstart file (repo directive) it would fail because of the wrong package order. One of the first things that needs to be installed is glibc (because of ldconfig) and coreutils but it didn't go first and 100% packages simply failed to install.
I didn't debug this, maybe the updates repo needed some special tweaking ?
Dag Wieers wrote:
I did. The slides would be the perfect opportunity to promote some things.
Maybe a tad late now? Especially if we think about translations.
- Explain what CentOS is and how we relate to upstream
- Explain all the additional stuff the CentOS project is doing
- Explain that we have SIGs and how they can join them
- Explain where to get documentation
- Explain how people can help CentOS (contribute, pay C, buy RH)
- Explain what Enterprise Linux means and show the release cycle
- ...
There's not really that much space on the slides to do some of the things above.
Can we have a look at the current CentOS slides and see what we could improve ?
http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Release/CentOS5.0AnacondaSlides
Ralph
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
Dag Wieers wrote:
- Explain what CentOS is and how we relate to upstream
- Explain all the additional stuff the CentOS project is doing
- Explain that we have SIGs and how they can join them
- Explain where to get documentation
- Explain how people can help CentOS (contribute, pay C, buy RH)
- Explain what Enterprise Linux means and show the release cycle
- ...
There's not really that much space on the slides to do some of the things above.
The are currently 9 images in the anaconda rnotes directory for each language, 01 -- 09. Can we have e.g. 10-centos-release-cycle, 11-centos-extra etc. or something?
Another question, why is there not a zh_CN or zh_TW directory in the centos rnotes? Nobody did this before?
Ruomu
Ruomu Hu wrote:
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
Ruomu Hu wrote:
Another question, why is there not a zh_CN or zh_TW directory in the centos rnotes? Nobody did this before?
I am willing to do this. I'm a native Chinese speaker. BTW, I believe there're pretty much CentOS users in China.
Good.
Please wait for a call for translation for the Release Notes of CentOS 5.2 (which should go out today to this list).
There is no real chance to do new slides for 5.2, but I put that on my ToDo list for 5.3. But: It would be great if you could translate our Release Notes which live on http://wiki.centos.org/ (more details follow).
What you can do now is register yourself a wiki account there (FirstnameLastname, please) and tell me when you did so.
Cheers,
Ralph
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
Dag Wieers wrote:
Can we have a look at the current CentOS slides and see what we could improve ?
http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Release/CentOS5.0AnacondaSlides
I don't have any editing rights there, don't need them either if this mail is read ;)
My advice for the 05-centos5-centosplus.png would be to change the URL to http://wiki.centos.org/Repositories. The wiki is very helpful and this link is much easier to remember. On the wiki-page CentOSPlus is the first repository mentioned, so this even fits to the contents of the slide.
Cheers, Niels
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