Hi, There has been some confusion around the new CentOS Stream timeframe.
Through the past year we've been told that when CentOS Stream 9 comes out, CentOS Stream 8 will be phased out in a short period of time.
With the new announcement we have been told that the CentOS Stream 8 (and any future version) will be available during the maintenance phase of that release. [1] This means that CentOS Stream 8 will be around for 5 years.
I've been trying to send people to the CentOS Stream FAQ [2] because it's easier to find. But the question [3] related to this hasn't been updated and says it will be a year at most.
So, thus my question. Can the CentOS Stream FAQ be updated with the new policy?
Thanks Troy Dawson
[1] - https://centos.org/distro-faq/#q6-will-there-be-separateparallelsimultaneous... [2] - https://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOSStream [3] - https://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOSStream#What_happens_when_CentOS_Stream_swi...
On 12/17/20 9:54 AM, Troy Dawson wrote:
Hi, There has been some confusion around the new CentOS Stream timeframe.
Through the past year we've been told that when CentOS Stream 9 comes out, CentOS Stream 8 will be phased out in a short period of time.
That is untrue.
The end date of CentOS Stream 8 is the end of the RHEL full support period. That is 5 years from the release of RHEL 8. That is in the FAQ:
With the new announcement we have been told that the CentOS Stream 8 (and any future version) will be available during the maintenance phase of that release. [1] This means that CentOS Stream 8 will be around for 5 years.
I've been trying to send people to the CentOS Stream FAQ [2] because it's easier to find. But the question [3] related to this hasn't been updated and says it will be a year at most.
Question 2 says:
Updates for the CentOS Stream 8 distribution continue through the full RHEL support phase. .. It links directly to the RHEL page to say 5 years.
So, thus my question. Can the CentOS Stream FAQ be updated with the new policy?
Thanks Troy Dawson
[1] - https://centos.org/distro-faq/#q6-will-there-be-separateparallelsimultaneous... [2] - https://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOSStream [3] - https://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOSStream#What_happens_when_CentOS_Stream_swi...
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On 12/17/20 10:22 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 12/17/20 9:54 AM, Troy Dawson wrote:
Hi, There has been some confusion around the new CentOS Stream timeframe.
Through the past year we've been told that when CentOS Stream 9 comes out, CentOS Stream 8 will be phased out in a short period of time.
That is untrue.
The end date of CentOS Stream 8 is the end of the RHEL full support period. That is 5 years from the release of RHEL 8. That is in the FAQ:
With the new announcement we have been told that the CentOS Stream 8 (and any future version) will be available during the maintenance phase of that release. [1] This means that CentOS Stream 8 will be around for 5 years.
I've been trying to send people to the CentOS Stream FAQ [2] because it's easier to find. But the question [3] related to this hasn't been updated and says it will be a year at most.
Question 2 says:
Updates for the CentOS Stream 8 distribution continue through the full RHEL support phase. .. It links directly to the RHEL page to say 5 years.
So, thus my question. Can the CentOS Stream FAQ be updated with the new policy?
Thanks Troy Dawson
[1] - https://centos.org/distro-faq/#q6-will-there-be-separateparallelsimultaneous... [2] - https://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOSStream [3] - https://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOSStream#What_happens_when_CentOS_Stream_swi...
BTW .. THIS is the FAQ:
https://centos.org/distro-faq/
The wiki is community maintained.
On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 8:24 AM Johnny Hughes johnny@centos.org wrote:
On 12/17/20 10:22 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 12/17/20 9:54 AM, Troy Dawson wrote:
Hi, There has been some confusion around the new CentOS Stream timeframe.
Through the past year we've been told that when CentOS Stream 9 comes out, CentOS Stream 8 will be phased out in a short period of time.
That is untrue.
The end date of CentOS Stream 8 is the end of the RHEL full support period. That is 5 years from the release of RHEL 8. That is in the FAQ:
With the new announcement we have been told that the CentOS Stream 8 (and any future version) will be available during the maintenance phase of that release. [1] This means that CentOS Stream 8 will be around for 5 years.
I've been trying to send people to the CentOS Stream FAQ [2] because it's easier to find. But the question [3] related to this hasn't been updated and says it will be a year at most.
Question 2 says:
Updates for the CentOS Stream 8 distribution continue through the full RHEL support phase. .. It links directly to the RHEL page to say 5 years.
So, thus my question. Can the CentOS Stream FAQ be updated with the new policy?
Thanks Troy Dawson
[1] - https://centos.org/distro-faq/#q6-will-there-be-separateparallelsimultaneous... [2] - https://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOSStream [3] - https://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOSStream#What_happens_when_CentOS_Stream_swi...
BTW .. THIS is the FAQ:
https://centos.org/distro-faq/
The wiki is community maintained.
The FAQ that I linked to must have been updated before you read it. Because it is quite different than when I originally linked to it.
I know you and your team are going through alot of garbage being thrown at you from all sides. I apologize if this seemed like just another sling at you. It wasn't intended to be.
But when I do a google on CentOS Stream FAQ, the link to the wiki is what I, and others are getting. I couldn't figure out who updates it, so I sent the request here. Because, as you said, what it was saying was no longer true.
Troy
On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 9:26 AM Troy Dawson tdawson@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 8:24 AM Johnny Hughes johnny@centos.org wrote:
On 12/17/20 10:22 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 12/17/20 9:54 AM, Troy Dawson wrote:
Hi, There has been some confusion around the new CentOS Stream timeframe.
Through the past year we've been told that when CentOS Stream 9 comes out, CentOS Stream 8 will be phased out in a short period of time.
That is untrue.
The end date of CentOS Stream 8 is the end of the RHEL full support period. That is 5 years from the release of RHEL 8. That is in the FAQ:
With the new announcement we have been told that the CentOS Stream 8 (and any future version) will be available during the maintenance phase of that release. [1] This means that CentOS Stream 8 will be around for 5 years.
I've been trying to send people to the CentOS Stream FAQ [2] because it's easier to find. But the question [3] related to this hasn't been updated and says it will be a year at most.
Question 2 says:
Updates for the CentOS Stream 8 distribution continue through the full RHEL support phase. .. It links directly to the RHEL page to say 5 years.
So, thus my question. Can the CentOS Stream FAQ be updated with the new policy?
Thanks Troy Dawson
[1] - https://centos.org/distro-faq/#q6-will-there-be-separateparallelsimultaneous... [2] - https://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOSStream [3] - https://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOSStream#What_happens_when_CentOS_Stream_swi...
BTW .. THIS is the FAQ:
https://centos.org/distro-faq/
The wiki is community maintained.
The FAQ that I linked to must have been updated before you read it. Because it is quite different than when I originally linked to it.
I know you and your team are going through alot of garbage being thrown at you from all sides. I apologize if this seemed like just another sling at you. It wasn't intended to be.
But when I do a google on CentOS Stream FAQ, the link to the wiki is what I, and others are getting. I couldn't figure out who updates it, so I sent the request here. Because, as you said, what it was saying was no longer true.
Troy
You can see the edit history of the referenced wiki page here:
https://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOSStream?action=info
Akemi
On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 10:55 AM Troy Dawson tdawson@redhat.com wrote:
So, thus my question. Can the CentOS Stream FAQ be updated with the new policy?
Done!
On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 07:54:35AM -0800, Troy Dawson wrote:
Through the past year we've been told that when CentOS Stream 9 comes out, CentOS Stream 8 will be phased out in a short period of time.
Yeah, overshadowed by everything else, this is an excellent change for Stream that apparently came out of the CentOS Board meeting over this.
On 12/17/20 12:31 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 07:54:35AM -0800, Troy Dawson wrote:
Through the past year we've been told that when CentOS Stream 9 comes out, CentOS Stream 8 will be phased out in a short period of time.
Yeah, overshadowed by everything else, this is an excellent change for Stream that apparently came out of the CentOS Board meeting over this.
It was indeed one HUGE change that the CentOS Board negotiated for.
On 12/17/20 3:02 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
... It was indeed one HUGE change that the CentOS Board negotiated for.
Honestly, it's the only thing that makes the situation the tiniest bit palatable. Kudos to the Board, and a big thanks to Red Hat for agreeing to do that. While 5 years is not as good as 10, it's better than 2 or 3.
As I've been composing my email to the centos-questions@redhat.com address, I went back through my local archive of a to-be-nameless mailing list with NDA-covered information, and ran across the pre-release notice of the post-Shrike (well, there's a city name in there, too, but I speak not of such locales) change in Red Hat Linux moving away from a boxed set product and more into a semi-stable dynamic development distribution with comprehensive community involvement, taking the old Fedora.us repo name as its own. Given the long time since that announcement, it is a really interesting read. Obviously I'm not going to post snippets, but the public announcement isn't hard to find. Much gnashing of teeth ensued then, too, but look at what Fedora has become! I hope CentOS Stream finds its way as well as Fedora did.
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