Am 18.10.19 um 18:48 schrieb Jim Perrin:

On 10/17/19 3:39 PM, Leon Fauster via CentOS-devel wrote:

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Just wondering; are the output files of the koji system no more accessible? I remember asking for some devel packages

https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2019-May/017417.html

and at that time I could download the rpm files. Why this "administrative rules" now? Any reasons for that?

And in general; a lot of devel packages are missing. Whats the policy for that? Can we see these rpms in the PowerTools or Extras repos?

A couple reasons for this. Just because things build doesn't mean they're ready. We sometimes need to iterate builds, and having people pulling packages direct from the build system makes supporting this challenging, especially if they have a matching NVR build that's not the right one. The packages may or may not be signed yet, depending on when someone tries to pull from koji. We'd prefer people wait for the actual release when we're sure everything is right. Lastly, the builders aren't on mirrored systems, so there's a bandwidth cost from people attempting to pull directly. The administrative block solves all 3 of these issues.

Thanks to clarify this ... albeit I wonder about the outlined impact.

As for shipping the devel packages: I believe bstinson has a plan for that as a separate repo in the future, but this won't work for -devel packages which belong to modules and are filtered as part of that module's metadata.

I saw later that some people on the list had already asked about it.

So, this are great news!

Thanks, Leon