July 2011 - devel - lists.centos.org

ksplice and CentOS
by Karanbir Singh 25 Sep '25

25 Sep '25

hi guys, lots of people on this list are keen on contributing to the CentOS effort - and one place where we could, as a group of people, make a massive difference is being able to deliver a ksplice upgrade model. A couple of people have started in silo's to try and get something together but I feel it might be a good time to try and see if we can do somethng as a group. Do we have people on the list who find the idea of rebootless kernel upgrades interesting ? Is there some desire to try and make that happen within the CentOS Ecosystem ? - KB

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anaconda dependency calculation?
by Nicholas Byrne 04 Aug '25

04 Aug '25

Hi all, I'm trying to find a tool that calculates all dependencies for a specific package or group of packages for use with CentOS 5 (beta) with the intention of putting together a custom single CD build of CentOS 5. With CentOS 4 i used a python script that used the hdrlist module to find all dependencies which borrowed code from a number of sources. I've looked at yumdownloader and how it checks dependencies (using the --resolve option) but if i pass it the list of packages defined in say the Base and the Core yum groups which generally form an absolute minimal install i end up with about 200 packages. If i do a custom install (using beta 1 disks) and deselect everything i end up with over 300 packages. So i'm guessing anaconda calculates dependencies in a slightly different way, can anyone point me to files/code where i should be looking to find out? Thanks very much in advance for help Nick This e-mail is the property of Quadriga Worldwide Ltd, intended for the addressee only and confidential. Any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message or any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from Quadriga may be monitored. Quadriga cannot guarantee any message delivery method is secure or error-free. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. We do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions in this message and/or attachment that arise as a result of transmission. You should carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Quadriga.

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forums + portal for {lang}.centos.org sites
by Karanbir Singh 16 Aug '24

16 Aug '24

Hi, Earlier in the evening today Ralph, Fabian and I had a chat about the present state of the language subsites. This email sort of summarises the main issue ( s/w ). We seem to have run into a slight technical hitch with punbb/fluxbb. They dont support LDAP as a backend. And we had decided a few months back that all new rollouts must have ldap backend so we can rollin CentOS-DS / openldap based backend. So we need to look at alternatives, and since the primary focus of these international sites is going be forums : Here is a shortlist ( if there is anything else that people are aware of, please add to this list ) - phpBB - SMF - Fudforum - phorum - fluxbb Requirements: - Must be able to scale ( couple of hundred thousand msgs ) - Must be able to handle ldap auth ( if it cant, whats involved in writing the ldap-auth portion ) - Must address the specific requirements raised by the present www.centos.org forum users ( Can you please fill this section in ? ) - Must support all languages we need ( pure utf8 support would be good ) - Secure - Skin'able Nice to have: - Capable of running multiple instances from a single deployment - responsive community :D Things we will need to do: - Decide on what s/w to use. - Give the ArtWork people enough time to get the look & feel sorted. - Migrate newbb forums from www.centos.org to $system ( hey, english is a language too :D ). - Migrate fr.centos.org into the final s/w - setup {de/es/ja/it/pt_br}.centos.org Actions: Ralph and Fabian are going to work on setting up a test ldap server, once that is online we will then start by installing into our test-vm-farm the various s/w to eval them. If anyone would like to help, please feel free to jump right in. I'll setup a wiki page for this issue, which might be a good place to track progress. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219@icq

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Interested in IA64 build.
by James A. Peltier 22 Jan '13

22 Jan '13

I noticed on the SIG that people interested in other ports of interest. I'd like to express interest in the IA64 port. What is the best way to get started? I have two SGI Itanium 2 based machines. One 64 processor x 64GB SGI Altix and a 32 processor x 32GB RAM SGI Prism. They are currently running CentOS 4.8 and I would love to be able to run CentOS 5.5 on them to get them into compliance with the rest of the cluster. -- James A. Peltier Systems Analyst (FASNet), VIVARIUM Technical Director Simon Fraser University - Burnaby Campus Phone : 778-782-6573 Fax : 778-782-3045 E-Mail : jpeltier(a)sfu.ca Website : http://www.fas.sfu.ca | http://vivarium.cs.sfu.ca MSN : subatomic_spam(a)hotmail.com Does your OS has a man 8 lart? http://www.xinu.nl/unix/humour/asr-manpages/lart.html

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Boot.Kernel.Org and CentOS
by Karanbir Singh 04 Aug '11

04 Aug '11

hi guys, About a year or so back, there was some effort put into getting a CentOS-5 image setup to work off boot.kernel.org and be able to get that install process working. That effort was abandoned since it needed quite a lot of work to be done, and was startig to become massively intrusive. The people involved with that effort, including me, are quite busy with a lot of stuff on the agenda at the moment and I was wondering if anyone would like to pickup CentOS-6 images and see whats needed to make things work off b.k.o Regards, - KB -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh ICQ: 2522219 | Yahoo IM: z00dax | Gtalk: z00dax GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc

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Centos server installation
by cephas kamuchira 02 Aug '11

02 Aug '11

I am just suggesting a new opinion on centos server. During the installation, why cant you add a check or click all box to select all packages you are going to install when choosing packages or service you want to install in the server. i have to do the clicking on 1 at a time just to install like 300 or more packages. Its just my sugestion Thank you -- *Best Regards* * * *Cephas Kamuchira Linux System Administrator* *PCworxshop/Foresite* *www.pcworxshop.co.za* <http://www.pcworxshop.co.za/> *Pinetown Durban Kwa-Zulu Natal South Africa * ** *Cell: 071 980 4006 E-mail:**cephokamuchira@gmail.com* <cephokamuchira(a)gmail.com> * **cephas(a)foresite.co.za* <cephas(a)foresite.co.za>

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mantis e-mail
by Jerry Amundson 27 Jul '11

27 Jul '11

Possibly nothing, but I've opened bug #4980 around 40 minutes ago, and updated it just now, yet received no e-mails from either. thanks, jerry

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mock using yum .repo file?
by Ljubomir Ljubojevic 25 Jul '11

25 Jul '11

Hi. I hope this is not too off-topic. I am setting up and learning mock to build packages for CentOS 6, and I have couple of questions for experts. 1. Can I somehow use .repo files from /etc/yum.repos.d/ ? I use 20-30 .repo files on and off (each repository(folder) in it's own file for easier manipulation without editing files), and editing repo configs in 2 places is not too appealing. I have seen this: $MOCK --copyin /etc/yum.repos.d/texlive-mock.repo /etc/yum.repos.d/ is this what I am looking for? 2. Will cleaning mentioned in manual delete all installed rpms (dependencies) or just building folder? If I want to compile same (or different but using same dependancies) package, how to keep dependencies packages for faster compile? I have ccache = 4G, yum cache on 15 days and root cahce on 10 days. Will this do? 3. How do yum priorities work in mock? I have them set for every repo and if I can use .repo files will mock honor priorities? If .repo files can not be used, do I have to sort repos based on priorities values or can I use priority= ? Thanks in advance. -- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Europe Google is the Mother, Google is the Father, and traceroute is your trusty Spiderman... StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant

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automated response
by Jeff Donaldson 25 Jul '11

25 Jul '11

I'll be out of the office the week of July 25th and will be returning on Monday, August 1st. I won't have access to email during this time and will respond as soon as I return. Thank you and have a great day!

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some noarch packages missing in CentOS 6.0 i386 repo?
by Teck Choon Giam 24 Jul '11

24 Jul '11

Hi, This is my second post about missing packages. First one no reply about dev86 package (http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2011-July/007903.html) so this is my second post in the hope that someone is kind enough to direct me to the right channel to ask such questions. Thanks in advance. The following noarch packages found in CentOS 6.0 x86_64 repo but not in CentOS 6.0 i386 repo: vgabios-0.6b-3.4.el6.noarch.rpm gpxe-roms-0.9.7-6.3.el6.noarch.rpm mvapich-common-1.2.0-0.3562.5.el6.noarch.rpm gpxe-roms-qemu-0.9.7-6.3.el6.noarch.rpm perl-XML-DOM-XPath-0.14-4.el6.noarch.rpm perl-XML-Writer-0.606-6.el6.noarch.rpm gpxe-bootimgs-0.9.7-6.3.el6.noarch.rpm perl-Module-Find-0.08-3.el6.noarch.rpm Thanks. Kindest regards, Giam Teck Choon

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CentOS Missing Packages (extras->mcrypt)
by Chris 22 Jul '11

22 Jul '11

It looks like in the extras repo for CentOS 6 the following packages are missing: libmcrypt.x86_64 : Encryption algorithms library libmcrypt-devel.x86_64 : Development libraries and headers for libmcrypt php-mcrypt.x86_64 : Standard PHP module provides mcrypt library support These packages exist in the extras repo for CentOS 5.6 and are a critical part of the whole php and mysql interaction.

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Lots of updates to EL5.x
by Karanbir Singh 22 Jul '11

22 Jul '11

hi guys, looks like 5.7 just got released upstream. The rpm build and the distro build services for the 5.x distro is independant from the 6.x stuff, so it should build in parallel and be available shortly ( via the CR setup ) There are a couple of updates from 5.6 still pending - I just pushed those out. - KB

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announcing stuff that is in CR/
by Karanbir Singh 21 Jul '11

21 Jul '11

hi guys, Opinions on what would be a good time to announce rpms that make it into the CR/ repo's ? As we build through 5.7 and 6.1, and start pushing the packages into the CR/ repo, should we also be announcing those updates ? On one hand it seems like the best time to announce it since the rpms are available - however they are only available to people who specifically opt into the CR/ process, so perhaps the best time to announce them would be when the rpms are in the os ( or updates/ ) repos in the next release. thoughts ? - KB

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Updates proposed but no post on centos-announce
by Gianluca Cecchi 21 Jul '11

21 Jul '11

Reading the various e-mails in centos-devel list archives I understood that each update for 6.0 would go through a specific centos-announce e-mail.... is this correct? I can found 2 install + 78 updates proposed to my CentOS system while apparently no new message in http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2011-July/date.html since 10th of July Also in CentOS home page I can see: " Since upstream has a 6.1 version already released, we will be using a Continous Release repository for 6.0 to bring all 6.1 and post 6.1 security updates to all 6.0 users, till such time as CentOS-6.1 is released itself. " But I understood CR repo has to be specifically "activated"... how? So what is current situation? Possibly lists.centos.org non updated but e-mails actually sent to subscribers...? In attach output of "yum update" on this system... as of 15th of July when I tried (I didn't update) Are perhaps these a sort of 0 day updates, as it happens in Fedora? Thanks in advance Gianluca

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Spacewalk packages removed in CentOS 6?
by Miroslav Suchý 19 Jul '11

19 Jul '11

I just read: http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS6.0#head-c667a3d0dc5a41af… And I wonder why has been: rhnlib rhn-check rhn-client-tools rhnsd rhn-setup rhn-setup-gnome yum-rhn-plugin removed from CentOS 6? We discussed it more than year ago: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2010-January/005307.html http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2010-February/005402.html and the conclusion was that we will leave CentOS 5 as is (i.e. do not add there this packages) but in CentOS 6 this packages will not be removed. So I'm quite surprised that they are removed? Can somebody share with me the details why it has been removed? -- Miroslav Suchy Red Hat Satellite Engineering

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Anaconda install groups vs yumgroups?
by me＠tdiehl.org 14 Jul '11

14 Jul '11

Hi, In looking at the C6 installer there are several types of installs listed. In the past I could do an install and anaconda would tell me what yumgroups it installed via the anaconda.cfg that was dropped in /root. with c6 anaconda still drops this file but none of the yumgroups are listed. Is there a way to determine what yumgroups a particular install group installs? For instance if I do a server install which groups actually get installed? I am thinking there is something in the anaconda source but so far I am unable to find it and Google is not useful. Is this info listed anywhere? Regards, -- Tom me(a)tdiehl.org Spamtrap address me123(a)tdiehl.org

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CentOS 6.0 mirror repodata not compatible with yum from 5.6
by Greg Swallow 14 Jul '11

14 Jul '11

I created a bug report - not sure if it is in the right category and thought someone should be made aware of it, so just posting the link to the list here http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=4946 Greg

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6.0 /etc/ntp.conf references rhel
by Patrick Bervoets 14 Jul '11

14 Jul '11

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Updates between minor releases
by Marcus Moeller 13 Jul '11

13 Jul '11

Hi all. In general the release of CentOS 6 has been appreciated a lot in the German-speaking countries. But a lot of ppl complained about how updates are handled in transition phases between minor releases (e.g. 5.5 to 5.6). >From what I can see on the announce list there has be a lack of updates for about two month: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2011-February/thread.html http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2011-March/thread.html where some critical updates where pending. I remember that we once agreed that if a critical update has been released during transition phase, it should be backported. Maybe we have to completely re-think the process. I guess the main aim is to keep minor releases (the ones that are shipped on the media) in sync with upstream. They should not contain newer packages, then upstream to keep compatibility on release date. But on the other hand, already installed systems need to be patched. I am not completely sure how this scenario is handled atm but if not already done this way, i would suggest that the majorversion directory (e.g. 5/) should be fed with these missing updates so that they become nearly next-minor. Similar to what is planned for 6.0 -> 6.1 Besides that the minor release trees (e.g. 5.7/) should only contain packages that are part of the release, no post release updates, on release date. Greets Marcus

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dev86 package found in x86_64 but not in i386
by Teck Choon Giam 13 Jul '11

13 Jul '11

Hi, If I post this in the wrong list, please accept my apology and direct me to the right list so that I won't repeat this mistake again. Thanks in advance. When building my custom xen packages, one of the dependencies is dev86 which found in x86_64 CentOS-6.0 repo (i.e. http://mirror.centos.org/centos-6/6.0/os/x86_64/Packages/) but not in i386 CentOS-6.0 repo (i.e. http://mirror.centos.org/centos-6/6.0/os/i386/Packages/) Is this intended or missed for dev86 not in i386 CentOS-6.0 repo? Thanks. Kindest regards, Giam Teck Choon

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package centos-release-10:5-6.el5.centos.1.x86_64 newer than centos-release-6-0.el6.centos.5.x86_64
by Ulrich Leodolter 12 Jul '11

12 Jul '11

hi, i know c6 it is not released, but centos-release packages was not upgraded when doing upgrade from 5.6 to 6.0 (using upgradeany option). [root@server Packages]# rpm -Uvh centos-release-6-0.el6.centos.5.x86_64.rpm warning: centos-release-6-0.el6.centos.5.x86_64.rpm: Header V3 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID c105b9de: NOKEY Preparing... ########################################### [100%] package centos-release-10:5-6.el5.centos.1.x86_64 (which is newer than centos-release-6-0.el6.centos.5.x86_64) is already installed i assume this was not tested because this upgrade method is not supported by upstream vendor. br ul -- Ulrich Leodolter <ulrich.leodolter(a)obvsg.at>

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minimal install & avahi
by Ferry Huberts 12 Jul '11

12 Jul '11

Hi I just did a minimal install and then installed avahi-daemon and avahi-dnsconfd. however, both avahi-* fail to start as services. it seems that they try to use dbus, which is not installed in a minimal install. is there something wrong with avahi dependencies or am i missing something? also, at least one serivce is complaining about nss-mdns, which is not available as a package -- Ferry Huberts

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Xen and timekeeping
by Dmitry E. Mikhailov 11 Jul '11

11 Jul '11

Hi to everyone, First of all, I'm not sure I'm posting to a correct list, but please let me borrow a minute of your precious time before directing me to the correct place. I have the problem with Xen domU's and timekeeping in dom0. Time in dom0 was incorrect by 5 hours due to wrong timezone assumed. Fixed it by ntpdate ntp.nist.gov. The time on a dom0 was changed. I didn't append xen.independent_wallclock=1 to sysctl.conf thus the time in all domU's was also changed. But THEY DIDN'T "KNOW" THAT! The 'date' output in domU shows time unchanged, as before, incorrect by 5 hours. But any current_time-dependent operations don't behave correctly. Quagga's OSPFd daemon doesn't add routes. 'service dhcpd stop' hangs forever while correctly stopping the daemon. AFAIK, it hangs on 'killproc' [root@gbuh-ufa init.d]# grep killproc dhcpd -A 2 -B 2 echo -n $"Shutting down $prog: " killproc $prog RETVAL=$? [ $RETVAL = 0 ] && rm -f $lockfile From http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/15380.html killproc: killproc kills a process which is given by a full path to the executable. ...cut... (by default a SIGTERM is sent, then a SIGKILL if the process does not die within 5 seconds). So a 5 seconds interval becomes 5 hours and 5 seconds - something I'm not willing to wait for. The problem was worked around when I did a 'date 07111158' on a dom0 and all domU's semi-simultaneously. Is this behaviour normal or should I file a bug? Best regards, Dmitry Mikhailov dom0: Hardware: Intel 5000P chipset, 2 CPUs, total 8 cores [root@xensrv ~]# cat /etc/redhat-release CentOS release 5.6 (Final) [root@xensrv ~]# uname -a Linux xensrv 2.6.18-238.el5xen #1 SMP Thu Jan 13 16:41:45 EST 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [root@xensrv ~]# rpm -q ntp ntp-4.2.2p1-9.el5.centos.2.1 [root@xensrv ~]# cat /proc/cpuinfo - 8 times the following processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 23 model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5420 @ 2.50GHz stepping : 6 cpu MHz : 1998.000 cache size : 6144 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 1 core id : 0 cpu cores : 1 fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 10 wp : yes flags : fpu tsc msr pae cx8 apic mtrr cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht syscall nx lm constant_tsc pni vmx est ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 lahf_lm bogomips : 6237.52 clflush size : 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 38 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: domU#0 [root@gbuh-ufa init.d]# cat /etc/redhat-release CentOS release 5.5 (Final) [root@gbuh-ufa init.d]# uname -a Linux gbuh-ufa 2.6.18-238.el5xen #1 SMP Thu Jan 13 17:49:40 EST 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux domU#1 [root@buhserv ~]# cat /etc/redhat-release CentOS release 5.6 (Final) [root@buhserv ~]# uname -a Linux buhserv 2.6.18-238.el5xen #1 SMP Thu Jan 13 16:41:45 EST 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

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[Fwd: Delivery Status Notification(Failure)]
by Ljubomir Ljubojevic 10 Jul '11

10 Jul '11

I received about 20 "Delivery Status Notification(Failure)" from address: juan.cardoza at - telcel-blackberry-net stating he has not received mails I posted to this mailing list. Can someone remove or disable him from this list since he's obviously not receiving any mail. Ljubomir -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Delivery Status Notification(Failure) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 05:00:32 GMT From: postmaster(a)telcel.blackberry.net To: office(a)plnet.rs Your message: To: juan.cardoza(a)telcel.blackberry.net Subject: Re: [CentOS] inconsistent DNS results - ping vs dig vs nslookup Sent Date: Wed Jun 22 17:44:09 2011 +0000 has not been delivered to the recipient's BlackBerry Handheld.

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Public mirrors leaking ISO files
by Ljubomir Ljubojevic 10 Jul '11

10 Jul '11

One of the members on CentOS Facebook page says that he was able to download ISO file from a public official mirror. Maybe someone could check this claim and plug the leak? Ljubomir

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Opening of the mirrors?
by Ljubomir Ljubojevic 10 Jul '11

10 Jul '11

Hi. Can someone confirm that ISO's are in their final form and ready for download / torrent seeding? I saw announcement on @Centos tweeter account and I see previously locked mirror close to me is know open, but I do not see any md5sum or sha1sum files. Ljubomir

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Re: [CentOS-devel] CentOS-devel Digest, Vol 77, Issue 6
by Mark E. Wilt 10 Jul '11

10 Jul '11

On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 12:00 -0400, centos-devel-request(a)centos.org wrote: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 10:43:56 +0200 > From: Ljubomir Ljubojevic <office(a)plnet.rs> > Subject: Re: [CentOS-devel] Public mirrors leaking ISO files > To: "The CentOS developers mailing list." <centos-devel(a)centos.org> > Message-ID: <4E1814CC.9020507(a)plnet.rs> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Shawn Thompson wrote: > > "leaks" > Yes, as in "drips through barriers" until whole dam is broken. Remember > story about Dutch kid that saved the dam by plugging his finger in dam's > little hole? If you are doing something, do it right or do not do it at all. > > > > This is just the silliest thing I have ever heard. This happens all > > the time, even with Windows. I see no cause for alarm, especially > > since this is FOSS. What's the problem? > > I don't care you don't care. I know dev's value their invested time and You've > do not need more headaches. > > Because it is not 100% complete. If someone (read hundreds possibly) > starts using ISO with a bug, then they could start complaining about > something wrong, and dev's and us willing to help could spend may hours > not knowing why is that persons PC behave like that. Not to mention > possible public name calls for no reason than not caring. > > Ljubomir > > > ------------------------------ Let's see if I understand this - You've got "hundreds possibly" of people who have been anxiously awaiting this release for months...you've got a very real dearth of information coming out of "official" channels regarding the status of the release (with the exception of http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/qa/, which announced that the sync to external mirrors started a couple of days ago, and that the "bit flip" should occur at any time), and you're chastising people for showing an overwhelming interest in the product. If you're so concerned about the potential problems with people "jumping the gun", then COMMUNICATE THE STATUS!! Don't leave people in the dark then act chagrined when people take it upon themselves to seek out what they've been waiting for. I don't care that you don't care that he doesn't care that there are leaks. I do care that you don't care to share what you know with others so that they might behave in a rational manner toward this much anticipated release.

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Announcements for 6.0/updates
by Karanbir Singh 05 Jul '11

05 Jul '11

hi guys, We are getting ready to put the 6.0/updates into place. The prep work brought up a question that needs addressing. There are quite a few different tools that seem to scrape the centos-announce output in order to get update metadata; therefore should we announce every update since the 6.0 release date upstream ? we might be looking at around 5 million emails being generated outbound... if not, what are the other options / ideas ? - KB

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Is C6 QA Sign-off going to occur today?
by Ljubomir Ljubojevic 02 Jul '11

02 Jul '11

Hi. Today is supposed to be QA Sign-off for CentOS 6.0. Is this going to happen or are there remaining show-stoppers? Ljubomir

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Download Location for 6.0 Beta ISO
by Andrew Reis 02 Jul '11

02 Jul '11

What is the link to either the direct image or the .torrent files for the 6.0 beta builds? Andrew Reis MCTS, Network+ Software/Networking/Microsoft Windows Support/Webmaster DBMS Inc.

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