devel March 2024

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[Feedback request] CentOS website theme readability
by Alain Reguera Delgado 17 Aug '24

17 Aug '24

Hi, The website theme is being updated to improve content responsiveness and readability, on both large and small screen devices. Your feedback would be very helpful to detect usability issues and consolidate a design that works well for you. Here is an example page you can use for testing: https://www.dev.centos.org/about/governance/sigs/#functional-sig-responsibi… Is the content of this page readable for you? If possible, provide feedback from both large and small screen devices. Thanks! -- Alain Reguera Delgado <alain.reguera(a)gmail.com>

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forums + portal for {lang}.centos.org sites
by Karanbir Singh 16 Aug '24

16 Aug '24

Hi, Earlier in the evening today Ralph, Fabian and I had a chat about the present state of the language subsites. This email sort of summarises the main issue ( s/w ). We seem to have run into a slight technical hitch with punbb/fluxbb. They dont support LDAP as a backend. And we had decided a few months back that all new rollouts must have ldap backend so we can rollin CentOS-DS / openldap based backend. So we need to look at alternatives, and since the primary focus of these international sites is going be forums : Here is a shortlist ( if there is anything else that people are aware of, please add to this list ) - phpBB - SMF - Fudforum - phorum - fluxbb Requirements: - Must be able to scale ( couple of hundred thousand msgs ) - Must be able to handle ldap auth ( if it cant, whats involved in writing the ldap-auth portion ) - Must address the specific requirements raised by the present www.centos.org forum users ( Can you please fill this section in ? ) - Must support all languages we need ( pure utf8 support would be good ) - Secure - Skin'able Nice to have: - Capable of running multiple instances from a single deployment - responsive community :D Things we will need to do: - Decide on what s/w to use. - Give the ArtWork people enough time to get the look & feel sorted. - Migrate newbb forums from www.centos.org to $system ( hey, english is a language too :D ). - Migrate fr.centos.org into the final s/w - setup {de/es/ja/it/pt_br}.centos.org Actions: Ralph and Fabian are going to work on setting up a test ldap server, once that is online we will then start by installing into our test-vm-farm the various s/w to eval them. If anyone would like to help, please feel free to jump right in. I'll setup a wiki page for this issue, which might be a good place to track progress. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219@icq

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CentOS 7/8s EOL : infrastructure impacts (please read)
by Fabian Arrotin 16 Apr '24

16 Apr '24

Hi all, As you're all aware (we sent multiple mails in the last year about this), CentOS 7 and Stream 8 will go EOL soon : https://blog.centos.org/2023/04/end-dates-are-coming-for-centos-stream-8-an… Let's lists some things that will happen on the CentOS Infrastructure as we'll be approching (or passed) these dates : # CentOS 7/8s content itself Usual process : content will be archived to https://vault.centos.org and removed from mirror.centos.org completely, with just a simple readme file dropped here (for example http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/readme for already EOL'ed version). Worth knowing that some SIGs are still building for RHEL8, still supported for SIGs through https://cbs.centos.org so such kind of content will continue to be available there as long as SIGs can build against/for it # CBS/koji (https://cbs.centos.org) No impact on CBS env itself ( not running centos 7 nor 8s for a long time now) but the various build tag reflecting centos 7 and 8s will be locked so that nobody would be able to build content anymore : that would even be impossible as content itself will have been removed from mirror.centos.org (internally used for cbs build tags) # CentOS Forums (https://forums.centos.org) : still running on centos 7 and even if that's easy to migrate to newer/supported EL version, it was decided to just shutdown the service (based on discussion with the actual moderation team). An option (to be announced on forums.centos.org ?) is to eventually start moving thread/discussions on Fedora discourse (There is already a CentOS category there : https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/c/neighbors/centos/71) So the plan is just to shutdown forums.centos.org and remove A/AAAA records from DNS # mirrorlist.centos.org service : Starting from Stream 9 (and above), deployed CentOS instance ares using Fedora infra mirrormanager instance for metalink= instead of mirrorlist= in .repo files. We'll just decommission our mirror crawler (also running with a mix of perl/python2 code), so not validating any mirror for legacy/EOL releases. mirrorlist.centos.org A/AAAA records will be removed in the following weeks after c7 will be EOL'ed. That means that people still running CentOS 7 or 8-stream will not have functional yum/dnf stack, except if they point to either vault or have internal mirror but at least people would be aware that distro itself is EOL and that they shouldn't expect to receive any update anymore # CentOS mailing-lists Currently running on mailman2 stack, on top of CentOS 7 linux : there is WIP to port everything to up2date mailman3 stack, actually packaged for EPEL9. We have successfully imported archives into mailman3 and same for lists config but let's start a different/separate thread to discuss changes (like renaming lists, see next coming thread) Kind Regards, -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | @arrfab[@fosstodon.org]

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lists.centos.org migration to mailman3 : RFC !
by Fabian Arrotin 28 Mar '24

28 Mar '24

As mentioned in previous thread about centos 7 EOL, one of the last application that was still running on centos linux 7 is mailman, serving centos lists for a long time now. Thanks to all the hard work done by community contributors (thanks Michel, Neal and others having participated !), there is now a fully functional mailman3 stack available in Epel9. There are still very minor things to do to be 100% ready for a real migration, but we should have a stable .stg. instance deployed very soon. (There is a sandbox instance that is reinstalled / scratched for now) While importing existing lists/archives from mailman2 to mailman3 test instance, there was a discussion (in a Matrix room) about eventually using this migration as an opportunity to rename the lists. For legacy reasons (don't know why as it was even before I joined the project :) ) , lists were created on the same box as MX record for centos.org and so lists were usually called : <lists>@centos.org. The (usual) method is instead to create a dedicate host/sub-domain that will hosts mailling lists, like lists.<domain> and so lists.centos.org (amusingly that's also the hostname we have for the https instance but not for the existing lists) As the discussion was just happening in a Matrix room, and more like a brainstorming session, I thought it would be better (for awareness) to start a real thread on this list, as it's about the future of the list itself :) Some people suggested to rename lists like this : (example): centos-devel(a)centos.org => devel(a)lists.centos.org While technically that seems to work (tested on the import from mailman2 to mailman3) , it would need local aliases so that mails sent to previous address list would just still go to new list (to be tested as I don't know which checks are done by mailman-core now, and SPF, DMARC, DKIM, etc if we just create aliases) This is a RFC (request for comments) thread so let us know what you think .. ideally before we start migrating the real instance :-) Kind Regards, -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | @arrfab[@fosstodon.org]

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Do kmods-kernel-6.1 and -6.6 have a -release package?
by Anthony Alba 17 Mar '24

17 Mar '24

Hi centos-devel, Per the subject: I found a repo file in centos-release-kmods-kernel that references kernel-latest but not -6.1 of -6.6. Are those repos intended to have centos-release-* files? Regards A Alba

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2024-03-13 - CentOS Public Board Meeting
by Thomas Oulevey 12 Mar '24

12 Mar '24

Hi Everyone, Our next board meeting will take place at 21:00 UTC tomorrow `date -d "2024-03-13 21:00 UTC"` Given that some of the board members are traveling, we may not achieve quorum, so we are planning a brief meeting. If you would like to attend please send me an email to alphacc(a)centosproject.org ( please do not reply to @centos-devel or use another email address) and you will receive a link to a meeting room with a passcode, 1 hour before the meeting takes place. The agenda can be checked at (work in progress) : https://hackmd.io/@centosboard/BJ5Xnxapa As a reminder we will enforce few rules : * Wait to be recognized by the Chair before speaking * Respect the Chair when told your time to speak is over - this will allow us to remain on agenda, and complete the meetings in the allotted time * In the event that there are Board-confidential topics, these will be put at the end of the meeting, in Executive Session, and guests will be asked to leave. We hope to minimize these items, but they do sometimes happen. The most common scenarios in which this may happen are personnel issues, or information that Red Hat wishes to share with the Board, but is not yet public. * Muting of participants, or, in extreme situations, ejection from the meeting, is at the sole discretion of the Chair. * Meetings will be recorded, and published to YouTube (possibly with edits/redaction, as approved by the Directors). Thus, by joining the meeting you consent to have your presence at the meeting, and anything you say during the meeting, made public. I hope some of you can join. Sorry for the late announcement. thanks, -- Thomas 'alphacc' Oulevey CentOS Board of Directors Secretary alphacc(a)centosproject.org

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Ruby fails to install in CS9
by Alfredo Moralejo Alonso 06 Mar '24

06 Mar '24

Hi, Latest CentOS Stream compose is failing to install ruby. "dnf install ruby" tries to install modularized 3.1.2-141.module_el9+156+2e0939d1 version and fails with errors: Error: No available modular metadata for modular package Workaround is to specify unmodular version: # sudo dnf install ruby-3.0.4 I've reported it in https://issues.redhat.com/browse/RHEL-28082 Note that if other packages require 3.0 (in RDO case, via automatic dep on "libruby.so.3.0()(64bit)" i.e.) it will just work. Best regards, Alfredo

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flatpak / appstream compat issues?
by Leon Fauster 06 Mar '24

06 Mar '24

Does someone sees this behaviour? $ /usr/bin/flatpak --user remotes Name Optionen fedora oci flathub $ /usr/bin/flatpak --user search testtest F: Failed to parse /srv/home/appuser/.local/share/flatpak/appstream/flathub/x86_64/active/appstream.xml.gz file: Fehler in Zeile 86745, Zeichen 136: <li> already set 'Protection against a common misconfiguration that tends to break apps, the ' and tried to replace with ' development variable' Is EL9's flatpak compatible with flathub appstream data? $ rpm -q flatpak appstream flatpak-1.12.8-1.el9.x86_64 appstream-0.16.1-1.el9.x86_64 Found this: https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/5434 Workaround (vanishes on next update): $ sed 's/<em>//' -i active/appstream.xml $ sed 's/<\/em>//' -i active/appstream.xml $ sed 's/<\/code>//' -i active/appstream.xml $ sed 's/<code>//' -i active/appstream.xml $ gzip -9 -c active/appstream.xml > active/appstream.xml.gz $ /usr/bin/flatpak --user search testtest No matches found -- Leon

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major infra issue : impacting git.centos.org and cbs.centos.org
by Fabian Arrotin 04 Mar '24

04 Mar '24

Today evening (Sunday), I got zabbix notification that some services hosted on same hypervisor were down. A quick investigation showed me that despite running on a hardware raid controller, said server firware confirm data loss and corruption. As I'm myself normally on PTO, I still wanted to restore services to quickly working on trying to redeploy from scratch services, and restore data from last backup and hope to have news soon ... -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | @arrfab[@fosstodon.org]

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