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CentOS Cloud SIG meeting minutes (2023-03-09) centos
by Joel Capitao 09 Mar '23

09 Mar '23

====================================================== #centos-meeting: CentOS Cloud SIG meeting (2023-03-09) ====================================================== Meeting started by jcapitao[m] at 15:00:54 UTC. The full logs are available athttps://www.centos.org/minutes/2023/March/centos-meeting.2023-03-09-15.00… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (jcapitao[m], 15:01:22) * OKD/SCOS Update (jcapitao[m], 15:11:40) * the preparation of the RPM builds for the OpenShift container stack is on-going (jcapitao[m], 15:12:31) * OKD/SCOS is working on standing up a cluster on massopen.cloud (jcapitao[m], 15:13:16) * New release of OpenStack: RDO Antelope schedule plans (jcapitao[m], 15:14:21) * RDO Antelope should be GA by end of March (jcapitao[m], 15:16:40) * TripleO packages won't be provided in CloudSIG repo for this release (jcapitao[m], 15:21:25) * LINK: https://lists.rdoproject.org/archives/list/dev@lists.rdoproject.org/thread/… (jcapitao[m], 15:21:33) * LINK: https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2023-March/142809.html (amoralej, 15:32:23) * LINK: https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2023-March/142814.html (jcapitao[m], 15:44:21) Meeting ended at 15:46:32 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jcapitao[m] (40) * amoralej (18) * spotz (10) * centguard (4) * davdunc[m (2) * karolinku12 (1) * lorbus (1) * karolinku (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Take 1 minute to help with Infra & Releng Team with a decision
by Michal Konecny 07 Mar '23

07 Mar '23

Hi everyone, it came to Infra & Releng Team (sub-team in CPE that is taking care of Fedora Infra, Fedora Release Engineering and CentOS Infra) attention that there is a confusion about the labels we are using for issues in our trackers. Namely fedora-infrastructure, releng and centos-infra. There was even a request to change them to something less confusing. So we want to decide if this is really need to change, so we ask you to take this quick survey [0] (this is an anonymous survey, nothing is collected by us) to see if the change is really needed or people are happy with current labels. The survey will be closed on 7th March 2023. On behalf of I&R Team, Michal [0] - https://forms.gle/J2HWDkw1UNuj8HYD8

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2023-03-08 - CentOS Public Board Meeting
by Thomas Oulevey 02 Mar '23

02 Mar '23

Hi Everyone, Our next board meeting will take place at 21:00 UTC next week: `date -d "2023-03-08 21:00 UTC"` If you would like to attend please send me an email to alphacc(a)centosproject.org (please do not reply to @centos-devel or use another email address) and you will receive a link to a Zoom meeting room with a passcode, 1 hour before the meeting takes place. The agenda can be checked at (work in progress) : https://hackmd.io/@centosboard/BJ_FDo93s As a reminder we will enforce few rules : * Wait to be recognized by the Chair before speaking * Respect the Chair when told your time to speak is over - this will allow us to remain on agenda, and complete the meetings in the allotted time * In the event that there are Board-confidential topics, these will be put at the end of the meeting, in Executive Session, and guests will be asked to leave. We hope to minimize these items, but they do sometimes happen. The most common scenarios in which this may happen are personnel issues, or information that Red Hat wishes to share with the Board, but is not yet public. * Muting of participants, or, in extreme situations, ejection from the meeting, is at the sole discretion of the Chair. * Meetings will be recorded, and published to YouTube (possibly with edits/redaction, as approved by the Directors). Thus, by joining the meeting you consent to have your presence at the meeting, and anything you say during the meeting, made public. I hope some of you can join. thanks, -- Thomas 'alphacc' Oulevey CentOS Board of Directors Secretary alphacc(a)centosproject.org

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RFC (Request for Comments) : future of wiki.centos.org
by Fabian Arrotin 28 Feb '23

28 Feb '23

Let's start discussing the future of wiki.centos.org ! There was a CentOS Docs SIG day happening on monday after Fosdem and during that day, we started to discuss the future of wiki.centos.org. As a reminder : https://wiki.centos.org is actually powered by moin (http://moinmo.in/) which is : - python 2.x based - unmaintained It's also running on CentOS Linux 7 (for these requirements), itself going EOL next year. Also worth adding that it's under constant spammer load, with plenty of bots trying to write content, be denied, and trying in a different way, so it's really a "whack a mole" game. For all these reasons, it has to be replaced by something else, (still a wiki) or even better, be decommissioned entirely and eventually moved to a git workflow. FWIW, it's what is used for all websites from various SIGs under https://sigs.centos.org (including the SIG guide itself, https://sigs.centos.org/guide) As a follow-up on the CentOS SIG day, an investigation (see https://pagure.io/centos-infra/issue/1061) was started as a PoC to just extract wiki content in a readable (static) format, so that we can still host a "read-only" version (archived) of wiki content, while a new service (wiki or else) would replace it. All comments/remarks are welcome, and let's have a plan about what to do (the sooner, the better) Kind Regards, -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | @arrfab[@fosstodon.org]

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February Newsletter
by Shaun McCance 27 Feb '23

27 Feb '23

It's monthly newsletter time. FOSDEM and CentOS Connect recap. KDE EPEL updates. Reports from the Cloud, NFV, Storage, and Promo SIGs. https://blog.centos.org/2023/02/centos-community-newsletter-february-2023/

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CentOS 7/8s EOL and public services/application discussion (READ ME)
by Fabian Arrotin 27 Feb '23

27 Feb '23

Hi all, For the first time in CentOS history, we'll have two version going EOL the same year, at just some week intervals, so we should already be prepared about this, and the sooner, the better. Per https://www.centos.org/centos-linux/ and https://www.centos.org/centos-stream/#centos-stream-8 : - June 30th 2024 for CentOS Linux 7 - May 31st 2024 for CentOS Stream 8 At the infra side, there are services that we still need to see working, so we already started to add el9 support to our ansible roles and some services are already (or will be soon) migrated to el9. I intend to send multiple mails in the next hours/days about identified applications for which we're still unsure if we should migrate these , or just let them behind (decommission), so if you see a topic/subject for an application you're interested in, feel free to participate in that specific thread (easier to read/follow than just everything in one email thread). These emails should start with something like "RFC (Request for comments) : future of <app>" Let me just announce here in advance the (public) infra services running on CentOS 7 that will just disappear when CentOS 7 itself will be EOL (and so not receiving any update anymore) : - mirror.centos.org : all Stream 9 (and above) mirror content is now on its own dedicated mirror.stream.centos.org CDN setup, so there is no need to keep an empty mirror.centos.org vhost with no content, as all content will be moved (as usual) to vault.centos.org. So mirror.centos.org A/AAAA records will be removed completely. (or we can just have a simple vhost with a redirect to mirror.stream.centos.org) - mirrorlist.centos.org : from Stream 9 (and above), it's using Fedora infra mirrormanager instance for metalink= instead of mirrorlist= in .repo files. We'll just decommission our mirror crawler (also running with a mix of perl/python2 code), so not validating any mirror for legacy/EOL releases. mirrorlist.centos.org A/AAAA records will be removed in the following weeks after c7 will be EOL'ed. -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | @arrfab[@fosstodon.org]

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Alternative Images SIG meeting notes
by Troy Dawson 23 Feb '23

23 Feb '23

* Image build systems: kiwi / livecd * Tags and targets are now in CBS. We are now able to build images * Thanks to all those that did that work * We are not able to publish to the mirrors yet * https://pagure.io/centos-infra/issue/1039 * !! Help is needed creating rpm-ostree stuff in kiwi !! * https://github.com/OSInside/kiwi/issues/38 * kiwi can currently create the following images: live media, OEM disk images, VM disk images, cloud images, container images, WSL images, fstrees, squashfs images, filesystem tarballs, liveinstall ISOs, PXE images, UEFI netboot images * Image build systems: containers * The SIG would like to build containers in kiwi, so that it is build on CBS instead of elsewhere. People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tdawson (47) * Eighth_Doctor (34) * salimma (15) * davide (6) * centguard (5) Minutes: https://www.centos.org/minutes/2023/February/centos-meeting.2023-02-23-19.0… Log: https://www.centos.org/minutes/2023/February/centos-meeting.2023-02-23-19.0…

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CentOS Stream 8 is transitioning to be ahead of RHEL 8 - Compose push to mirror operations affected
by Brian Stinson 22 Feb '23

22 Feb '23

Hi Folks, As many of you know, CentOS Stream 8 is currently produced using an "inside out" workflow, meaning RHEL builds happen first and then are reflected in CentOS Stream afterward. This is not the case with CentOS Stream 9 where builds are performed directly by maintainers at Red Hat from merge requests in gitlab.com. The CentOS Stream team is busy working on a project to migrate CentOS Stream 8 to the gitlab.com/Stream-first workflow. This is an exciting step to reflect CentOS Stream's true purpose in both currently active releases. One effect of this transition, though, is that we need to migrate from the old mbox buildsystem to the new Stream koji ( https://kojihub.stream.centos.org) To do this the team needs to pause regular compose and push-to-mirror jobs to avoid a split-brain situation with 2 separate systems. You may notice a lack of updates to the repos on the mirrors for a few more weeks while this transition is completed. The team's first priority is making sure that Red Hat maintainers take control over the c8s branches in https://gitlab.com/redhat/centos-stream/rpms (and builds in koji) and then the team will return to working on regular composes and push-to-mirror operations. If you have any questions in the interim, please reach out to me. Cheers! -- Brian Stinson

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EPEL 8 Modules officially retired
by Troy Dawson 15 Feb '23

15 Feb '23

EPEL 8 Modules are now officially retired. - The EPEL 8 modules are being archived. - The mirror manager is being pointed to the archive - Tags, targets and configurations are being removed so new builds cannot happen. - The dnf epel-modular.repo will remain, but will still default to disabled - The dnf epel-modular.repo name will change DEPRECATED to RETIRED Some of these steps take longer than others. If you do not see the change right now, know that it is coming. Questions and Answers: Question: Will I still be able to access the modules? Answer: It is not recommended, because the modules will not get any security or bug fixes, but yes. They will be in the Fedora archives, and the mirror managers will point at them.

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CentOS Board Office Hours
by Shaun McCance 14 Feb '23

14 Feb '23

Due to CentOS Connect, FOSDEM, and general travel, the CentOS Board didn't get notice out for the February meeting. There was no official meeting, although there was a video chat. Nonetheless, we'll hold our monthly board office hours this Thursday, February 16, 15 15:00 UTC. https://us06web.zoom.us/j/81819497130?pwd=WTQxNDdYS1UwK3RzdTdxeGRIMjRBUT09 Thanks, Shaun

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