On 8/11/20 8:38 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 8/10/20 3:41 PM, Troy Dawson wrote:
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 1:29 PM Orion Poplawski orion@nwra.com wrote:
Is there anything I can do to help out with missing -devel packages in CentOS 8? I'm waiting for a number of them, e.g.:
Hi Orion, It helps if it is linked to this ticket. https://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=16492 Although nothing has happened there for 5 months.
To be clear, there is two definitions of "missing -devel packages"
There are the ones that have never shown up anywhere (I'm still waiting on 4 I believe)
And then there are the ones that originally showed up, and we were able to build from them in EPEL8, but then when RHEL 8.2 came along, the EPEL8 packages are still the old ones from RHEL 8.1. https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9580
And while we would love to just publish these .. we can not.
There are competing goals here. Bit for bit like RHEL .. RHEL does not have the SRPMS, we should not.
Someone wants the SRPMS .. so they want us to like RHEL .. except when they don't. All our build system and where we pull info assumes we need to be the same. Introducing things were we are not is HARD .. especially in el8 as we HAVE to use koji and mbox and pungi to build. Introducing differences into compose configurations for pungi for releases is HARD .. it has follow on impacts .. and we need a system in place to make it continue to work when we get updated compose files in the future.
We have people working on this, but it is just not a priority compared to getting things released on time and builds working properly. It is not just a simple .. push a couple packages somewhere.
I understand that it's not the top priority, and there is work involved. But it did seem like a process was defined so that it wasn't such a crazy thing to do. But maybe it is.
As Troy noted, a number of packages have been published, including libuv-devel from the above report. I'll make some notes in those bug reports. But others are still missing, including for example libtar-devel.
Thanks again for your work, and maybe someday others will be able to help you.