Hi all,
As we're ramping up planning for CentOS Dojos in 2014, it would be a Good Idea to have a code of conduct/Anti-Harassment/Discrimination Policy in place. I've taken the liberty of drafting a short one based on the Linux Foundation's [1] policy.
I trust that this is non-controversial, but I'm including the language below in case we need to make any tweaks. We also need to decide who will be the point of contact for any concerns (aside from the local event staff).
(To be clear, nothing I've heard about previous Dojos gives me any cause to believe that we'll need to deal with infractions, but better to be clear about our expectations and have the policy in place.)
Thoughts, comments, flames?
CentOS Dojo Code of Conduct
CentOS Dojos are working conferences intended for professional networking and collaboration in the CentOS community. Attendees are expected to behave according to professional standards and in accordance with standard policies on appropriate workplace behavior.
While participating in a Dojo, or related social networking opportunities, attendees should not engage in discriminatory or offensive speech or actions regarding gender, sexuality, race, or religion. Speakers should be especially aware of these concerns.
We does not condone any statements by speakers contrary to these standards. We reserve the right to deny entrance and/or eject from an event (without refund) any individual found to be engaging in discriminatory or offensive speech or actions.
Please bring any concerns to to the immediate attention of the Dojo event staff, or contact [whom do we wish to list here?]
# # #
[1] http://events.linuxfoundation.org/anti-harassment-discrimination-policy
On 02/21/2014 02:13 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
Hi all,
As we're ramping up planning for CentOS Dojos in 2014, it would be a Good Idea to have a code of conduct/Anti-Harassment/Discrimination Policy in place. I've taken the liberty of drafting a short one based on the Linux Foundation's [1] policy.
I trust that this is non-controversial, but I'm including the language below in case we need to make any tweaks. We also need to decide who will be the point of contact for any concerns (aside from the local event staff).
(To be clear, nothing I've heard about previous Dojos gives me any cause to believe that we'll need to deal with infractions, but better to be clear about our expectations and have the policy in place.)
Thoughts, comments, flames?
CentOS Dojo Code of Conduct
CentOS Dojos are working conferences intended for professional networking and collaboration in the CentOS community. Attendees are expected to behave according to professional standards and in accordance with standard policies on appropriate workplace behavior.
While participating in a Dojo, or related social networking opportunities, attendees should not engage in discriminatory or offensive speech or actions regarding gender, sexuality, race, or religion. Speakers should be especially aware of these concerns.
We does not condone any statements by speakers contrary to these
We do not condone / The CentOS Dojo does not condone
standards. We reserve the right to deny entrance and/or eject from an event (without refund) any individual found to be engaging in discriminatory or offensive speech or actions.
Please bring any concerns to to the immediate attention of the Dojo event staff, or contact [whom do we wish to list here?]
# # #[1] http://events.linuxfoundation.org/anti-harassment-discrimination-policy
Am 21.02.2014 07:17, schrieb Rejy M Cyriac:
On 02/21/2014 02:13 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
Hi all,
As we're ramping up planning for CentOS Dojos in 2014, it would be a Good Idea to have a code of conduct/Anti-Harassment/Discrimination Policy in place. I've taken the liberty of drafting a short one based on the Linux Foundation's [1] policy.
I trust that this is non-controversial, but I'm including the language below in case we need to make any tweaks. We also need to decide who will be the point of contact for any concerns (aside from the local event staff).
Thoughts, comments, flames?
This seems to be mostly an issue in the USA or at least it isn't an issue in Europe. I've been to several conferences in Europe and I haven't ever heard of any issues concerning something like that and also I haven't heard of any code of conduct. I've heard there have been issues at conferences in the US. A code of conduct might help, but we shouldn't advertise it too offensive. It is okay if we have it and we can refer to it, but we shouldn't put it on every door in 30pt or something like that. I think it would be somewhat offending to advertise it in that way, because for me it implies that you think I don't know how to behave properly.
We *should* have clear guidelines and I'm glad to call them code of conduct and we definitely should evict people who misbehave, but don't put it on every wall
Regards, Andreas
On 02/21/2014 12:22 PM, Andreas Rogge wrote:
Am 21.02.2014 07:17, schrieb Rejy M Cyriac:
On 02/21/2014 02:13 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
Hi all,
As we're ramping up planning for CentOS Dojos in 2014, it would be a Good Idea to have a code of conduct/Anti-Harassment/Discrimination Policy in place. I've taken the liberty of drafting a short one based on the Linux Foundation's [1] policy.
I trust that this is non-controversial, but I'm including the language below in case we need to make any tweaks. We also need to decide who will be the point of contact for any concerns (aside from the local event staff).
Thoughts, comments, flames?
This seems to be mostly an issue in the USA or at least it isn't an issue in Europe. I've been to several conferences in Europe and I haven't ever heard of any issues concerning something like that and also I haven't heard of any code of conduct. I've heard there have been issues at conferences in the US. A code of conduct might help, but we shouldn't advertise it too offensive. It is okay if we have it and we can refer to it, but we shouldn't put it on every door in 30pt or something like that. I think it would be somewhat offending to advertise it in that way, because for me it implies that you think I don't know how to behave properly.
We *should* have clear guidelines and I'm glad to call them code of conduct and we definitely should evict people who misbehave, but don't put it on every wall
Me too, I've never ever heard of issues or even of the existence of a code of conduct at conferences in UE.
I fully agree with Andreas in everything he mentioned above.
Manuel
On 02/21/2014 03:55 PM, Manuel Wolfshant wrote:
On 02/21/2014 12:22 PM, Andreas Rogge wrote:
Am 21.02.2014 07:17, schrieb Rejy M Cyriac:
On 02/21/2014 02:13 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
Hi all,
As we're ramping up planning for CentOS Dojos in 2014, it would be a Good Idea to have a code of conduct/Anti-Harassment/Discrimination Policy in place. I've taken the liberty of drafting a short one based on the Linux Foundation's [1] policy.
I trust that this is non-controversial, but I'm including the language below in case we need to make any tweaks. We also need to decide who will be the point of contact for any concerns (aside from the local event staff).
Thoughts, comments, flames?
This seems to be mostly an issue in the USA or at least it isn't an issue in Europe. I've been to several conferences in Europe and I haven't ever heard of any issues concerning something like that and also I haven't heard of any code of conduct. I've heard there have been issues at conferences in the US. A code of conduct might help, but we shouldn't advertise it too offensive. It is okay if we have it and we can refer to it, but we shouldn't put it on every door in 30pt or something like that. I think it would be somewhat offending to advertise it in that way, because for me it implies that you think I don't know how to behave properly.
We *should* have clear guidelines and I'm glad to call them code of conduct and we definitely should evict people who misbehave, but don't put it on every wall
Me too, I've never ever heard of issues or even of the existence of a code of conduct at conferences in UE.
I fully agree with Andreas in everything he mentioned above.
Manuel
I agree that it should not be given prominent advertising at the venue. It just needs a mention anywhere (a sort of terms and conditions), when folks sign-up for the Dojo. It is not meant to be aggressive, or to deter people, but to function as a fall-back mechanism just in case things do go wrong. We cannot be too careful about racism and gender issues these days, in many places around the globe.
- rejy (rmc)
hi,
On 02/21/2014 10:31 AM, Rejy M Cyriac wrote:
I fully agree with Andreas in everything he mentioned above.
me too
I agree that it should not be given prominent advertising at the venue. It just needs a mention anywhere (a sort of terms and conditions), when folks sign-up for the Dojo. It is not meant to be aggressive, or to deter people, but to function as a fall-back mechanism just in case things do go wrong. We cannot be too careful about racism and gender issues these days, in many places around the globe.
To a large extent this is as much about what to do and howto handle things should they go south.
I've been to a fair few conferences and havent noticed or heard of anything that might need to be addressed in this manner - but then I dont do many conferences in the US where this has been a much bigger problem - having said that, creating a fair and reasonable environment for everyone to come and attend/present at a gathering should be the norm, and I dont see any harm in setting a baseline expectation. And one that is common across the board for everyone, everywhere.
Plus, it seems that its almost fashionable to have a code of conduct and everyone is expected to have one. We could sum it up with a 'dont be an idiot', but then definitions of idiot might vary and are subject to viewpoints - so we need a bit more verbage to quantify it :)
On 02/21/2014 04:24 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
hi,
On 02/21/2014 10:31 AM, Rejy M Cyriac wrote:
I fully agree with Andreas in everything he mentioned above.
me too
I agree that it should not be given prominent advertising at the venue. It just needs a mention anywhere (a sort of terms and conditions), when folks sign-up for the Dojo. It is not meant to be aggressive, or to deter people, but to function as a fall-back mechanism just in case things do go wrong. We cannot be too careful about racism and gender issues these days, in many places around the globe.
To a large extent this is as much about what to do and howto handle things should they go south.
I've been to a fair few conferences and havent noticed or heard of anything that might need to be addressed in this manner - but then I dont do many conferences in the US where this has been a much bigger problem - having said that, creating a fair and reasonable environment for everyone to come and attend/present at a gathering should be the norm, and I dont see any harm in setting a baseline expectation. And one that is common across the board for everyone, everywhere.
Plus, it seems that its almost fashionable to have a code of conduct and everyone is expected to have one. We could sum it up with a 'dont be an idiot', but then definitions of idiot might vary and are subject to viewpoints - so we need a bit more verbage to quantify it :)
We could have that on T-shirt - "Don't be an idiot!" ...though it carries the risk of being completed with "like me/you" :-P
- rejy (rmc)
On 02/21/2014 05:05 AM, Rejy M Cyriac wrote:
We could have that on T-shirt - "Don't be an idiot!" ...though it carries the risk of being completed with "like me/you" :-P
I prefer "be excellent to one another" which really encompasses what we want from our attendees/speakers, etc.
Best,
jzb
On 21/02/14 11:22, Andreas Rogge wrote:
Am 21.02.2014 07:17, schrieb Rejy M Cyriac:
On 02/21/2014 02:13 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
Hi all,
As we're ramping up planning for CentOS Dojos in 2014, it would be a Good Idea to have a code of conduct/Anti-Harassment/Discrimination Policy in place. I've taken the liberty of drafting a short one based on the Linux Foundation's [1] policy.
I trust that this is non-controversial, but I'm including the language below in case we need to make any tweaks. We also need to decide who will be the point of contact for any concerns (aside from the local event staff).
Thoughts, comments, flames?
This seems to be mostly an issue in the USA or at least it isn't an issue in Europe. I've been to several conferences in Europe and I haven't ever heard of any issues concerning something like that and also I haven't heard of any code of conduct. I've heard there have been issues at conferences in the US. A code of conduct might help, but we shouldn't advertise it too offensive. It is okay if we have it and we can refer to it, but we shouldn't put it on every door in 30pt or something like that. I think it would be somewhat offending to advertise it in that way, because for me it implies that you think I don't know how to behave properly.
We *should* have clear guidelines and I'm glad to call them code of conduct and we definitely should evict people who misbehave, but don't put it on every wall
Regards, Andreas
Hi Andreas,
I complete share your opinion/PoV. It's good to have some kind of "code of conduct" to mention to people when they register for an event/centos dojo, but as you said it too, we never had any issue during previous events/dojos. So my opinion would be the same as yours (mention it but don't "write it on every possible wall" :-)
On 02/21/2014 04:22 AM, Andreas Rogge wrote:
We *should* have clear guidelines and I'm glad to call them code of conduct and we definitely should evict people who misbehave, but don't put it on every wall
My thought is we'll do the following:
1) Have a notice on the Website for Dojos. 2) Make sure speakers in particular are made aware of the policy. 3) Make sure people running events are familiar with the policy and how it should be handled.
But, no, I didn't think we needed to put a notice on every wall.
Best,
jzb
On 02/21/2014 12:17 AM, Rejy M Cyriac wrote:
We does not condone any statements by speakers contrary to these
We do not condone / The CentOS Dojo does not condone
Yeah... missed that one, will fix. Thanks!
jzb
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