If I understand it correctly the next Event planned is LinuxTag in Berlin starting May 23rd to 26th, but there's nothing committed yet.
Do we have any Events where we are committed that take place before 6.3 will be released? How many disks do you think we will need for that?
During FOSDEM we gave away around 140 disks. Would've probably been more, but we *always* ran out of stock (I haven't had any idea how many people wanted DVDs)
I haven't had time to do the inventory yet, but I guess it was almost equal share between the x86_64 Live, i386 Install and x86_64 Install. I was surprised how many people actually took the i386 install DVDs.
I talked to Karanbir concerning merging multiple Images onto a Double-Layer DVD. From what I heard right now that's not a good idea. Someone doing professional disk duplication told me that they have a significant (i.e. >20%) amount of degraded disks when they produce DL-DVDs. As DL is just a few cents cheaper than producing three single-layer disks it doesn't make sense if burning fails that often.
So for now, I don't propose to do a DL DVD anymore.
However, I do propose to merge x86_64 and i386 Live DVDs. They will both fit onto a single-layer DVD. That would bring us from 4 different Images down to three.
In fact we could try to do what Fedora did. They're able to autodetect 32-bit/64-bit and boot the appropriate Live Image. As that happens inside the bootloader we should be able to reproduce it.
If it is appreciated, I'd give it a try.
Regards, Andreas
On 02/07/2012 01:14 PM, Andreas Rogge wrote:
I talked to Karanbir concerning merging multiple Images onto a Double-Layer DVD. From what I heard right now that's not a good idea. Someone doing professional disk duplication told me that they have a significant (i.e.>20%) amount of degraded disks when they produce DL-DVDs. As DL is just a few cents cheaper than producing three single-layer disks it doesn't make sense if burning fails that often.
So for now, I don't propose to do a DL DVD anymore.
to be honest I avoided DL so far due to price. over here they still are prohibitive, compared to SL
However, I do propose to merge x86_64 and i386 Live DVDs. They will both fit onto a single-layer DVD. That would bring us from 4 different Images down to three.
In fact we could try to do what Fedora did. They're able to autodetect 32-bit/64-bit and boot the appropriate Live Image. As that happens inside the bootloader we should be able to reproduce it.
definitely +1 here
On 02/07/2012 11:14 AM, Andreas Rogge wrote:
I haven't had time to do the inventory yet, but I guess it was almost equal share between the x86_64 Live, i386 Install and x86_64 Install. I was surprised how many people actually took the i386 install DVDs.
Hi Andreas!
I was surprised by that too.
So for now, I don't propose to do a DL DVD anymore.
I agree, I don't think I have ever bought any, they are much more expensive.
However, I do propose to merge x86_64 and i386 Live DVDs. They will both fit onto a single-layer DVD. That would bring us from 4 different Images down to three.
Could we do i386/x86_64 Install as well? That would be cool too. Then it's simply 2 images and we can give simpler instructions to people at conferences: If you want to play around before installing, use the Live one, otherwise use the Install one.
In fact we could try to do what Fedora did. They're able to autodetect 32-bit/64-bit and boot the appropriate Live Image. As that happens inside the bootloader we should be able to reproduce it.
If it is appreciated, I'd give it a try.
+1
Am 07.02.2012 16:10, schrieb Khusro Jaleel:
On 02/07/2012 11:14 AM, Andreas Rogge wrote:
However, I do propose to merge x86_64 and i386 Live DVDs. They will both fit onto a single-layer DVD. That would bring us from 4 different Images down to three.
Could we do i386/x86_64 Install as well? That would be cool too. Then it's simply 2 images and we can give simpler instructions to people at conferences: If you want to play around before installing, use the Live one, otherwise use the Install one.
I cannot see how that could work. For i386 and x86_64 there are already two DVDs each (Although you need only the first one for the installation). AFAICT (correct me if I'm wrong) Fedora does that also only for live media. They put a series of different live CDs onto a DVD. But that's not an install disk, but only an installable live disk.
Regards, Andreas
On 02/07/2012 04:26 PM, Andreas Rogge wrote:
Am 07.02.2012 16:10, schrieb Khusro Jaleel:
Could we do i386/x86_64 Install as well? That would be cool too. Then it's simply 2 images and we can give simpler instructions to people at conferences: If you want to play around before installing, use the Live one, otherwise use the Install one.
I cannot see how that could work. For i386 and x86_64 there are already two DVDs each (Although you need only the first one for the installation). AFAICT (correct me if I'm wrong) Fedora does that also only for live media. They put a series of different live CDs onto a DVD. But that's not an install disk, but only an installable live disk.
Regards, Andreas
Ah, forgive me, I forgot that those are of course already DVD sized so that won't work. Fedora's web site automatically directs you to the "32-bit Live CD" on the main page (fedoraproject.org) (note: CD not DVD at 605 MB).
If you click on "More options" on the main webpage, you get the page [1] below where once again they are all Live CDs only, either in 32-bit or 64-bit.
No DVDs (Install or Live) that I can see.
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