We are now at the point in the CentOS Stream 9 process that we need to do some kind of a "launch" promotional effort, so that people are aware of the work that is being done here beyond the "Coming Soon" message on the download page.
If you are willing to participate in this effort, we will be coordinating on the centos-promo mailing list - https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-promo - so if you're not subscribed, this is a good time to do so.
We will be initially producing two things:
* A blog post for blog.centos.org (and possibly one for a redhat.com property as well) * Web content that will go at centos.org/stream9
Initial notes about what we're creating are here: https://hackmd.io/RkOiWNmIQcWSubQ3emY0lg
We would like to produce this content within the next month - end of November latest. Launching this content would be coordinated with launching the new visual/design work for our various websites.
So ... y'all come help!
Status update:
We have a great blog post drafted at https://hackmd.io/@forbushd/BJC9Q9DSY which looks to me like it's (almost?) ready to go. Can we place have several of you review this and +1 it and/or make any edits/comments?
Personally, I think it's exactly the right length and depth of detail, with links to all of the right places.
Next, we need to put together the content for centos.org/stream9 which, because it can be updated going forward, can be launched when it is "good enough". I will be working on it this week, and would appreciate any contributions to that process. I'll be doing that here: https://hackmd.io/1K3sbGAyQjSZ1sg4VJBZbw
--Rich
On 10/13/21 14:24, Rich Bowen wrote:
We are now at the point in the CentOS Stream 9 process that we need to do some kind of a "launch" promotional effort, so that people are aware of the work that is being done here beyond the "Coming Soon" message on the download page.
If you are willing to participate in this effort, we will be coordinating on the centos-promo mailing list - https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-promo - so if you're not subscribed, this is a good time to do so.
We will be initially producing two things:
- A blog post for blog.centos.org (and possibly one for a redhat.com
property as well)
- Web content that will go at centos.org/stream9
Initial notes about what we're creating are here: https://hackmd.io/RkOiWNmIQcWSubQ3emY0lg
We would like to produce this content within the next month - end of November latest. Launching this content would be coordinated with launching the new visual/design work for our various websites.
So ... y'all come help!
Ok, here's what I've got for an initial draft of this page:
https://hackmd.io/1K3sbGAyQjSZ1sg4VJBZbw?view#Page-Content (Scroll down to the "Page Content" heading.)
It's very lightweight, and we can, of course, update it over time and expand it to more than a single page if desired.
Your thoughts/comments/edits are appreciated.
--Rich
On 11/2/21 09:47, Rich Bowen wrote:
Status update:
We have a great blog post drafted at https://hackmd.io/@forbushd/BJC9Q9DSY which looks to me like it's (almost?) ready to go. Can we place have several of you review this and +1 it and/or make any edits/comments?
Personally, I think it's exactly the right length and depth of detail, with links to all of the right places.
Next, we need to put together the content for centos.org/stream9 which, because it can be updated going forward, can be launched when it is "good enough". I will be working on it this week, and would appreciate any contributions to that process. I'll be doing that here: https://hackmd.io/1K3sbGAyQjSZ1sg4VJBZbw
--Rich
On 10/13/21 14:24, Rich Bowen wrote:
We are now at the point in the CentOS Stream 9 process that we need to do some kind of a "launch" promotional effort, so that people are aware of the work that is being done here beyond the "Coming Soon" message on the download page.
If you are willing to participate in this effort, we will be coordinating on the centos-promo mailing list - https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-promo - so if you're not subscribed, this is a good time to do so.
We will be initially producing two things:
- A blog post for blog.centos.org (and possibly one for a redhat.com
property as well)
- Web content that will go at centos.org/stream9
Initial notes about what we're creating are here: https://hackmd.io/RkOiWNmIQcWSubQ3emY0lg
We would like to produce this content within the next month - end of November latest. Launching this content would be coordinated with launching the new visual/design work for our various websites.
So ... y'all come help!
Hi,
I'm getting more and more questions about the status of CentOS Stream 9. IIUC, we can consider CS9 as released technically and just working on the announcement or promotion part. Is that correct?When will this launch be done?
Best regards,
Alfredo
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 4:41 PM Rich Bowen rbowen@redhat.com wrote:
Ok, here's what I've got for an initial draft of this page:
https://hackmd.io/1K3sbGAyQjSZ1sg4VJBZbw?view#Page-Content (Scroll down to the "Page Content" heading.)
It's very lightweight, and we can, of course, update it over time and expand it to more than a single page if desired.
Your thoughts/comments/edits are appreciated.
--Rich
On 11/2/21 09:47, Rich Bowen wrote:
Status update:
We have a great blog post drafted at https://hackmd.io/@forbushd/BJC9Q9DSY which looks to me like it's (almost?) ready to go. Can we place have several of you review this and +1 it and/or make any edits/comments?
Personally, I think it's exactly the right length and depth of detail, with links to all of the right places.
Next, we need to put together the content for centos.org/stream9 which, because it can be updated going forward, can be launched when it is "good enough". I will be working on it this week, and would appreciate any contributions to that process. I'll be doing that here: https://hackmd.io/1K3sbGAyQjSZ1sg4VJBZbw
--Rich
On 10/13/21 14:24, Rich Bowen wrote:
We are now at the point in the CentOS Stream 9 process that we need to do some kind of a "launch" promotional effort, so that people are aware of the work that is being done here beyond the "Coming Soon" message on the download page.
If you are willing to participate in this effort, we will be coordinating on the centos-promo mailing list - https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-promo - so if you're not subscribed, this is a good time to do so.
We will be initially producing two things:
- A blog post for blog.centos.org (and possibly one for a redhat.com
property as well)
- Web content that will go at centos.org/stream9
Initial notes about what we're creating are here: https://hackmd.io/RkOiWNmIQcWSubQ3emY0lg
We would like to produce this content within the next month - end of November latest. Launching this content would be coordinated with launching the new visual/design work for our various websites.
So ... y'all come help!
CentOS-promo mailing list CentOS-promo@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-promo
On 11/26/21 12:10, Alfredo Moralejo Alonso wrote:
Hi,
I'm getting more and more questions about the status of CentOS Stream 9. IIUC, we can consider CS9 as released technically and just working on the announcement or promotion part. Is that correct?When will this launch be done?
Yes. that is correct.
As to when the launch will be done, the answer is in the rest of this thread, but basically boils down to "as soon as we can get all of the parts ready." I'm *really* hoping for next week.
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 4:41 PM Rich Bowen <rbowen@redhat.com mailto:rbowen@redhat.com> wrote:
Ok, here's what I've got for an initial draft of this page: https://hackmd.io/1K3sbGAyQjSZ1sg4VJBZbw?view#Page-Content <https://hackmd.io/1K3sbGAyQjSZ1sg4VJBZbw?view#Page-Content> (Scroll down to the "Page Content" heading.) It's very lightweight, and we can, of course, update it over time and expand it to more than a single page if desired. Your thoughts/comments/edits are appreciated. --Rich On 11/2/21 09:47, Rich Bowen wrote: > Status update: > > We have a great blog post drafted at > https://hackmd.io/@forbushd/BJC9Q9DSY <https://hackmd.io/@forbushd/BJC9Q9DSY> which looks to me like it's > (almost?) ready to go. Can we place have several of you review this and > +1 it and/or make any edits/comments? > > Personally, I think it's exactly the right length and depth of detail, > with links to all of the right places. > > Next, we need to put together the content for centos.org/stream9 <http://centos.org/stream9> which, > because it can be updated going forward, can be launched when it is > "good enough". I will be working on it this week, and would appreciate > any contributions to that process. I'll be doing that here: > https://hackmd.io/1K3sbGAyQjSZ1sg4VJBZbw <https://hackmd.io/1K3sbGAyQjSZ1sg4VJBZbw> > > --Rich > > On 10/13/21 14:24, Rich Bowen wrote: >> We are now at the point in the CentOS Stream 9 process that we need to >> do some kind of a "launch" promotional effort, so that people are >> aware of the work that is being done here beyond the "Coming Soon" >> message on the download page. >> >> If you are willing to participate in this effort, we will be >> coordinating on the centos-promo mailing list - >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-promo <https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-promo> - so if you're >> not subscribed, this is a good time to do so. >> >> We will be initially producing two things: >> >> * A blog post for blog.centos.org <http://blog.centos.org> (and possibly one for a redhat.com <http://redhat.com> >> property as well) >> * Web content that will go at centos.org/stream9 <http://centos.org/stream9> >> >> Initial notes about what we're creating are here: >> https://hackmd.io/RkOiWNmIQcWSubQ3emY0lg <https://hackmd.io/RkOiWNmIQcWSubQ3emY0lg> >> >> We would like to produce this content within the next month - end of >> November latest. Launching this content would be coordinated with >> launching the new visual/design work for our various websites. >> >> So ... y'all come help! _______________________________________________ CentOS-promo mailing list CentOS-promo@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-promo@centos.org> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-promo <https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-promo>
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Hi, folks.
It looks like all of the pieces are in place. We have the blog post staged and the content for centos.org/stream9 is in Git at https://git.centos.org/fork/rbowen/centos/centos.org/blob/stream9-launch/f/s...
I would like to propose that we plan to go live early next week. That gives a few more days for people to look over everything.
It also allows us to avoid a conflict/overlap with the RHEL 9 Beta messaging push. We don't want to imply either that the RHEL 9 Beta is tied in any way to this "launch", nor do we want either to upstage, or be upstaged by, that messaging.
Does this work for everyone. Alain, in particular, are you ready to push the new design that soon?
Related: I got word back from the Red Hat Brand team (as I have noted here: https://git.centos.org/centos/board/issue/4) and they encourage us to go ahead and use the new logo wherever we wish, even prior to any formal mark registration.
--Rich
On 10/13/21 14:24, Rich Bowen wrote:
We are now at the point in the CentOS Stream 9 process that we need to do some kind of a "launch" promotional effort, so that people are aware of the work that is being done here beyond the "Coming Soon" message on the download page.
If you are willing to participate in this effort, we will be coordinating on the centos-promo mailing list - https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-promo - so if you're not subscribed, this is a good time to do so.
We will be initially producing two things:
- A blog post for blog.centos.org (and possibly one for a redhat.com
property as well)
- Web content that will go at centos.org/stream9
Initial notes about what we're creating are here: https://hackmd.io/RkOiWNmIQcWSubQ3emY0lg
We would like to produce this content within the next month - end of November latest. Launching this content would be coordinated with launching the new visual/design work for our various websites.
So ... y'all come help!
Hi!
On Mon, 2021-11-08 at 15:32 -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
It looks like all of the pieces are in place. We have the blog post staged and the content for centos.org/stream9 is in Git at https://git.centos.org/fork/rbowen/centos/centos.org/blob/stream9-launch/f/s...
I would like to propose that we plan to go live early next week. That gives a few more days for people to look over everything.
It also allows us to avoid a conflict/overlap with the RHEL 9 Beta messaging push. We don't want to imply either that the RHEL 9 Beta is tied in any way to this "launch", nor do we want either to upstage, or be upstaged by, that messaging.
+1
Does this work for everyone. Alain, in particular, are you ready to push the new design that soon?
Yes, Sr., I am. My intention is to have these changes ready in their repos the next Monday or Tuesday.
FYC: The CentOS Stream 9 distribution (desktop) isn't presenting the backgrounds yet, nor the correct visual information in the browser's default web page; although they are both available in the respective source repos. These are major issues if we want to avoid visual "disconnection" between websites and distribution.
Related: I got word back from the Red Hat Brand team (as I have noted here: https://git.centos.org/centos/board/issue/4) and they encourage us to go ahead and use the new logo wherever we wish, even prior to any formal mark registration.
This is a 5x5 "Go". So, resuming the actions to be done:
1. Update centos-logos and centos-indexhtml source repos to include the new logo and update the browser default web page's content. With these changes in place, the next compose should produce the packages with the logo and we will see it in the distribution after running the "dnf update" command or installing directly the new ISO file.
2. Check the distribution is aligned with its visual presentation (it provides both new logo and desktop backgrounds).
3. Work with Fabian to align the website presentation.
Best Regards,
On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 6:32 PM Alain Reguera Delgado alain.reguera@gmail.com wrote:
Hi!
On Mon, 2021-11-08 at 15:32 -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
It looks like all of the pieces are in place. We have the blog post staged and the content for centos.org/stream9 is in Git at https://git.centos.org/fork/rbowen/centos/centos.org/blob/stream9-launch/f/s...
I would like to propose that we plan to go live early next week. That gives a few more days for people to look over everything.
It also allows us to avoid a conflict/overlap with the RHEL 9 Beta messaging push. We don't want to imply either that the RHEL 9 Beta is tied in any way to this "launch", nor do we want either to upstage, or be upstaged by, that messaging.
+1
Does this work for everyone. Alain, in particular, are you ready to push the new design that soon?
Yes, Sr., I am. My intention is to have these changes ready in their repos the next Monday or Tuesday.
FYC: The CentOS Stream 9 distribution (desktop) isn't presenting the backgrounds yet, nor the correct visual information in the browser's default web page; although they are both available in the respective source repos. These are major issues if we want to avoid visual "disconnection" between websites and distribution.
Related: I got word back from the Red Hat Brand team (as I have noted here: https://git.centos.org/centos/board/issue/4) and they encourage us to go ahead and use the new logo wherever we wish, even prior to any formal mark registration.
This is a 5x5 "Go". So, resuming the actions to be done:
- Update centos-logos and centos-indexhtml source repos to include the
new logo and update the browser default web page's content. With these changes in place, the next compose should produce the packages with the logo and we will see it in the distribution after running the "dnf update" command or installing directly the new ISO file.
- Check the distribution is aligned with its visual presentation (it
provides both new logo and desktop backgrounds).
We also need to set the LOGO= value in os-release to "fedora-logo-icon" so that the correct item is picked up by desktop environments.
It would also be a good opportunity to try to make sure we have the assets in place so that desktops in EPEL actually have the things they need to be able to pick up branding like they do on Fedora.
-- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!
On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 5:32 PM Alain Reguera Delgado alain.reguera@gmail.com wrote:
Hi!
On Mon, 2021-11-08 at 15:32 -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
It looks like all of the pieces are in place. We have the blog post staged and the content for centos.org/stream9 is in Git at https://git.centos.org/fork/rbowen/centos/centos.org/blob/stream9-launch/f/s...
I would like to propose that we plan to go live early next week. That gives a few more days for people to look over everything.
It also allows us to avoid a conflict/overlap with the RHEL 9 Beta messaging push. We don't want to imply either that the RHEL 9 Beta is tied in any way to this "launch", nor do we want either to upstage, or be upstaged by, that messaging.
+1
Does this work for everyone. Alain, in particular, are you ready to push the new design that soon?
Yes, Sr., I am. My intention is to have these changes ready in their repos the next Monday or Tuesday.
FYC: The CentOS Stream 9 distribution (desktop) isn't presenting the backgrounds yet, nor the correct visual information in the browser's default web page; although they are both available in the respective source repos. These are major issues if we want to avoid visual "disconnection" between websites and distribution.
I suggest we block the launch promotion until the wallpaper issue is fixed. I'm happy to help make this happen, I'll sync up with Alain directly this coming week.
Related: I got word back from the Red Hat Brand team (as I have noted here: https://git.centos.org/centos/board/issue/4) and they encourage us to go ahead and use the new logo wherever we wish, even prior to any formal mark registration.
This is a 5x5 "Go". So, resuming the actions to be done:
- Update centos-logos and centos-indexhtml source repos to include the
new logo and update the browser default web page's content. With these changes in place, the next compose should produce the packages with the logo and we will see it in the distribution after running the "dnf update" command or installing directly the new ISO file.
- Check the distribution is aligned with its visual presentation (it
provides both new logo and desktop backgrounds).
- Work with Fabian to align the website presentation.
Best Regards,
Alain Reguera Delgado alain.reguera@gmail.com _______________________________________________ CentOS-promo mailing list CentOS-promo@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-promo
On 11/13/21 17:31, Carl George wrote:
FYC: The CentOS Stream 9 distribution (desktop) isn't presenting the backgrounds yet, nor the correct visual information in the browser's default web page; although they are both available in the respective source repos. These are major issues if we want to avoid visual "disconnection" between websites and distribution.
I suggest we block the launch promotion until the wallpaper issue is fixed. I'm happy to help make this happen, I'll sync up with Alain directly this coming week.
Thanks. I'm fine with that. Note that I am at SuperComputing this week, and so will be slow to respond.
While it would be great to get this all out there this week, I do want to be sure it's a good first experience for people that see the announcement and go to try Stream 9.
--Rich
On Mon, Nov 15, 2021, 13:48 Rich Bowen rbowen@redhat.com wrote:
Thanks. I'm fine with that. Note that I am at SuperComputing this week, and so will be slow to respond.
While it would be great to get this all out there this week, I do want to be sure it's a good first experience for people that see the announcement and go to try Stream 9.
So ... Y'all think there's any chance we can push this out next week?
On Thu, 2021-11-18 at 10:56 -0600, Rich Bowen wrote:
So ... Y'all think there's any chance we can push this out next week?
Rich, wrt new logo design, I am afraid we are not ready yet. While making some implementation tests in CentOS Stream 9, I recently observed two problems:
1. The symbol image in the new logo doesn't provide an acceptable level of contrast in all the use-cases the distribution demands. For example, if we use dark lines, it is not visible on dark backgrounds. If we use light lines, it is not visible on light backgrounds. If we use neutral color lines, it doesn't look good in any case.
2. The symbol image is poorly recognizable in small sizes (e.g., 16x16 pixels) as we see in Gnome Desktop, near Activities, and on the web browser tab icon. The icon near Activities is probably the most important image we have to identify the CentOS Project inside the CentOS distribution because it is always visible. More than any other image is.
These problems will be described soon with visual evidence in https://git.centos.org/centos/Artwork/issues, looking for community support and proposals. These are really challenging problems (at least for me). My guess is that we will need another open design round to solve them and the result will be visually different from what we have now. Some points to address/think on:
- Recognition: It is probably necessary to simplify the symbol design even more. It has too many lines, and when they are reduced, the symbol starts to loose its meaning.
- Contrast: It is probably necessary to introduce a neutral plain color to provide a fixed background that serves as stable base to express the CentOS Symbol meaning on top of it. So, the CentOS Symbol looks always the same on top of different color saturation. This has been already proposed and rejected by me without any implementation test in the distribution. The implementation tests threw that using only lines doesn't provide a good visual presentation inside the distribution, specially on icons reduced in size.
- Meaning: Whatever the solution for these problems be, it should preserve the CentOS Symbol meaning without affecting its presentation when the symbol is reduced to 16x16 pixels. The CentOS Symbol meaning must be clearly expressed on that size. It must shine on that size!
Considering the problems mentioned earlier and the timelines, I would propose to prepare the CentOS Stream 9 launch using the historical CentOS Symbol, until we find a solution. Note, that the historical CentOS Symbol suffers these problems as well, but it is more recognizable than the new one. I prefer to introduce the new symbol to CentOS distribution when it does provide a benefit. As consequence, and to be consistent through all visual manifestations, the historical CentOS Symbol should be preserved on websites and promotion materials.
Don't know if such thing is possible considering the intention and immediate need of having the new brand active. I hope we can "as soon as we are ready to do so" [1]
[1] https://git.centos.org/centos/board/issue/4#comment-483
Ok, that's fine. I'd *really* like to get it out before the December 8th date if at all possible.
On 11/18/21 20:18, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
On Thu, 2021-11-18 at 10:56 -0600, Rich Bowen wrote:
So ... Y'all think there's any chance we can push this out next week?
Rich, wrt new logo design, I am afraid we are not ready yet. While making some implementation tests in CentOS Stream 9, I recently observed two problems:
- The symbol image in the new logo doesn't provide an acceptable level
of contrast in all the use-cases the distribution demands. For example, if we use dark lines, it is not visible on dark backgrounds. If we use light lines, it is not visible on light backgrounds. If we use neutral color lines, it doesn't look good in any case.
- The symbol image is poorly recognizable in small sizes (e.g., 16x16
pixels) as we see in Gnome Desktop, near Activities, and on the web browser tab icon. The icon near Activities is probably the most important image we have to identify the CentOS Project inside the CentOS distribution because it is always visible. More than any other image is.
These problems will be described soon with visual evidence in https://git.centos.org/centos/Artwork/issues, looking for community support and proposals. These are really challenging problems (at least for me). My guess is that we will need another open design round to solve them and the result will be visually different from what we have now. Some points to address/think on:
- Recognition: It is probably necessary to simplify the symbol design
even more. It has too many lines, and when they are reduced, the symbol starts to loose its meaning.
- Contrast: It is probably necessary to introduce a neutral plain color
to provide a fixed background that serves as stable base to express the CentOS Symbol meaning on top of it. So, the CentOS Symbol looks always the same on top of different color saturation. This has been already proposed and rejected by me without any implementation test in the distribution. The implementation tests threw that using only lines doesn't provide a good visual presentation inside the distribution, specially on icons reduced in size.
- Meaning: Whatever the solution for these problems be, it should
preserve the CentOS Symbol meaning without affecting its presentation when the symbol is reduced to 16x16 pixels. The CentOS Symbol meaning must be clearly expressed on that size. It must shine on that size!
Considering the problems mentioned earlier and the timelines, I would propose to prepare the CentOS Stream 9 launch using the historical CentOS Symbol, until we find a solution. Note, that the historical CentOS Symbol suffers these problems as well, but it is more recognizable than the new one. I prefer to introduce the new symbol to CentOS distribution when it does provide a benefit. As consequence, and to be consistent through all visual manifestations, the historical CentOS Symbol should be preserved on websites and promotion materials.
Don't know if such thing is possible considering the intention and immediate need of having the new brand active. I hope we can "as soon as we are ready to do so" [1]
[1] https://git.centos.org/centos/board/issue/4#comment-483
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On 11/18/21 20:18, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
Whatever the solution for these problems be, it should preserve the CentOS Symbol meaning without affecting its presentation when the symbol is reduced to 16x16 pixels. The CentOS Symbol meaning must be clearly expressed on that size. It must shine on that size!
Considering the problems mentioned earlier and the timelines, I would propose to prepare the CentOS Stream 9 launch using the historical CentOS Symbol, until we find a solution. Note, that the historical CentOS Symbol suffers these problems as well, but it is more recognizable than the new one. I prefer to introduce the new symbol to CentOS distribution when it does provide a benefit. As consequence, and to be consistent through all visual manifestations, the historical CentOS Symbol should be preserved on websites and promotion materials.
Don't know if such thing is possible considering the intention and immediate need of having the new brand active. I hope we can "as soon as we are ready to do so" [1]
If you're ok with going out with the old logo, and updating later, I'm fine with that. Do you think we can launch the blog post and website later this week? Tuesday or Wednesday, perhaps? Is that something we can get done?
--Rich
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 2:10 PM Rich Bowen rbowen@redhat.com wrote:
On 11/18/21 20:18, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
Whatever the solution for these problems be, it should preserve the CentOS Symbol meaning without affecting its presentation when the symbol is reduced to 16x16 pixels. The CentOS Symbol meaning must be clearly expressed on that size. It must shine on that size!
Considering the problems mentioned earlier and the timelines, I would propose to prepare the CentOS Stream 9 launch using the historical CentOS Symbol, until we find a solution. Note, that the historical CentOS Symbol suffers these problems as well, but it is more recognizable than the new one. I prefer to introduce the new symbol to CentOS distribution when it does provide a benefit. As consequence, and to be consistent through all visual manifestations, the historical CentOS Symbol should be preserved on websites and promotion materials.
Don't know if such thing is possible considering the intention and immediate need of having the new brand active. I hope we can "as soon as we are ready to do so" [1]
If you're ok with going out with the old logo, and updating later, I'm fine with that. Do you think we can launch the blog post and website later this week? Tuesday or Wednesday, perhaps? Is that something we can get done?
If we can have EPEL 9 "up" this week too, it'd be great to get it in place. That'll really "open the doors" for everyone.
On Mon, 2021-11-29 at 14:10 -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
If you're ok with going out with the old logo, and updating later, I'm fine with that.
Yes, I am ok with it. Btw, the issue describing the new logo problems and the place where we expect discussion to happen is the following:
https://git.centos.org/centos/Artwork/issue/5/
This is a great opportunity for the community to bring fresh ideas around the CentOS symbol once again since the last discussion in this other link:
https://git.centos.org/centos/Artwork/issue/1
Do you think we can launch the blog post and website later this week? Tuesday or Wednesday, perhaps? Is that something we can get done?
In my opinion the distribution release announcement really depends on what we are targeting here (something worth to mention in the announce note too). For example, gui-desktop, gui-server, non-gui-server, etc. If we are targeting a non-gui-server distribution we are good to go as we are now (the issues we have are not visually relevant), but it wouldn't be the case if we are targeting a gui-desktop or gui-server distribution (the issues we have are visually relevant).
The issues related to centos-logos backgrounds (which are not visible yet) and the Tour application (showing Fedora logo instead of CentOS logo in one of the first welcome screens the user sees after a clean install) are still present. Surely I am not seeing the entire picture here but it seems to be lower in quality to announce a Desktop distribution without background images and a logo different from the one used by the project to identify itself, in a place where the project mark should be stamped on.
Considering the continuos nature of this release, the fact that issues pending to solve will always exist, and the need of releasing: would it be possible to include a new section to the release note to provide a list of those unsolved issues dynamically? Probably a link to bugzilla.redhat.com filtering by some specific tag or something like that?
The issue related to distribution default web browser welcome page (centos-indexhtml) is already fixed. Thank you Carl.
Best regards,
Ok. I guess I'm looking to you, then (and Fabian) to confirm when we're ready to push the website updates out.
--Rich
On 11/29/21 16:53, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
On Mon, 2021-11-29 at 14:10 -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
If you're ok with going out with the old logo, and updating later, I'm fine with that.
Yes, I am ok with it. Btw, the issue describing the new logo problems and the place where we expect discussion to happen is the following:
https://git.centos.org/centos/Artwork/issue/5/
This is a great opportunity for the community to bring fresh ideas around the CentOS symbol once again since the last discussion in this other link:
https://git.centos.org/centos/Artwork/issue/1
Do you think we can launch the blog post and website later this week? Tuesday or Wednesday, perhaps? Is that something we can get done?
In my opinion the distribution release announcement really depends on what we are targeting here (something worth to mention in the announce note too). For example, gui-desktop, gui-server, non-gui-server, etc. If we are targeting a non-gui-server distribution we are good to go as we are now (the issues we have are not visually relevant), but it wouldn't be the case if we are targeting a gui-desktop or gui-server distribution (the issues we have are visually relevant).
The issues related to centos-logos backgrounds (which are not visible yet) and the Tour application (showing Fedora logo instead of CentOS logo in one of the first welcome screens the user sees after a clean install) are still present. Surely I am not seeing the entire picture here but it seems to be lower in quality to announce a Desktop distribution without background images and a logo different from the one used by the project to identify itself, in a place where the project mark should be stamped on.
Considering the continuos nature of this release, the fact that issues pending to solve will always exist, and the need of releasing: would it be possible to include a new section to the release note to provide a list of those unsolved issues dynamically? Probably a link to bugzilla.redhat.com filtering by some specific tag or something like that?
The issue related to distribution default web browser welcome page (centos-indexhtml) is already fixed. Thank you Carl.
Best regards,
CentOS-promo mailing list CentOS-promo@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-promo
Is there any chance that we can push this out today or tomorrow? I'll be on the road for a few hours tomorrow, but should be available in the morning, and then again in the evening, for whatever is needed from my end.
--Rich
On 11/30/21 11:24, Rich Bowen wrote:
Ok. I guess I'm looking to you, then (and Fabian) to confirm when we're ready to push the website updates out.
--Rich
On 11/29/21 16:53, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
On Mon, 2021-11-29 at 14:10 -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
If you're ok with going out with the old logo, and updating later, I'm fine with that.
Yes, I am ok with it. Btw, the issue describing the new logo problems and the place where we expect discussion to happen is the following:
https://git.centos.org/centos/Artwork/issue/5/
This is a great opportunity for the community to bring fresh ideas around the CentOS symbol once again since the last discussion in this other link:
https://git.centos.org/centos/Artwork/issue/1
Do you think we can launch the blog post and website later this week? Tuesday or Wednesday, perhaps? Is that something we can get done?
In my opinion the distribution release announcement really depends on what we are targeting here (something worth to mention in the announce note too). For example, gui-desktop, gui-server, non-gui-server, etc. If we are targeting a non-gui-server distribution we are good to go as we are now (the issues we have are not visually relevant), but it wouldn't be the case if we are targeting a gui-desktop or gui-server distribution (the issues we have are visually relevant).
The issues related to centos-logos backgrounds (which are not visible yet) and the Tour application (showing Fedora logo instead of CentOS logo in one of the first welcome screens the user sees after a clean install) are still present. Surely I am not seeing the entire picture here but it seems to be lower in quality to announce a Desktop distribution without background images and a logo different from the one used by the project to identify itself, in a place where the project mark should be stamped on.
Considering the continuos nature of this release, the fact that issues pending to solve will always exist, and the need of releasing: would it be possible to include a new section to the release note to provide a list of those unsolved issues dynamically? Probably a link to bugzilla.redhat.com filtering by some specific tag or something like that?
The issue related to distribution default web browser welcome page (centos-indexhtml) is already fixed. Thank you Carl.
Best regards,
CentOS-promo mailing list CentOS-promo@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-promo
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