On 17/05/2021 21:10, Kaleb Keithley wrote:
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 3:46 PM Phil Perry <pperry@elrepo.org mailto:pperry@elrepo.org> wrote:
But from what Mike just said, EPEL/SIGs should _NOT_ be building against those missing -devel packages on Stream because anything built on Stream must also run on RHEL?It took me a while to get my head around this.
The C8 Stream and C9 Stream _buildroots_ have all the packages, including the -devel packages. (For some definition of all.)
If you have privs to build in koji.stream, or CBS (for C8 Stream and some day C9 Stream) then you can expect your build to find the required -devel rpms in the buildroot.
Most (or hopefully all?) shipping package sets don't need the -devel dependencies at run-time. As long as the base packages corresponding to the -devel dependencies are in C8 or C9 Stream (or in RHEL) somewhere, then you should be fine, right?
Absolutely, that's my understanding too, a normal binary should run fine on any system without the -devel package being installed, so long as the -devel package only contains headers etc required for the build and has no runtime requirements (these should be in the main package, not the -devel package).
But Mike stated the reason for CentOS Stream not shipping the missing -devel packages is that what is developed and runs on Stream should also run on the next version of RHEL. Hence this is not a valid reason for not shipping these packages in Stream, as the missing -devel packages should never be required when installing the resulting binaries on the next version of RHEL.
Or if they're not in one of the C8 or C9 Stream repos (BaseOS, AppStream, Powertools/CodeReadyBuilder) then maybe you'll be able to tag those packages into your SIG repo?
The only place where this sort of falls apart is how to get/use these -devel dependencies on an external build machine, e.g. I have my C9 Stream vm running on my desktop. My only option is to manually download all the "missing" -devel rpms from koji.stream.centos.org http://koji.stream.centos.org and install them that way. Which is less than optimal! I kinda feel like a solution for this is what is being asked for when people ask for a Devel repo.
Are there any flaws in my understanding?
That is how I see it too.